Ank06 - 3CC Conquest
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Gengis Khan
Deity
A couple already have it from me trading it away. Once you have a couple extra Cavs in our main land kill the Zulu/settler pair walking across our land then take out the Zulu city on our border & gift the city to Abe. America has horses but no iron or saltpeter, so they need that saltpeter city to be even remotely effective against Abu(they have Mil Trad). Besides Shaka is backwards & can't touch us.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Why won't they take the city? We're not at war with them.
Because the AI just doesn't. Go and test. They won't trade cities except when making peace.
It was a bug in the early versions of vanilla civ, you could buy cities from the AI all the time and cripple them.
Go ask Chieftess for better info if you don't believe.
It was a bug in the early versions of vanilla civ, you could buy cities from the AI all the time and cripple them.
Go ask Chieftess for better info if you don't believe.
Used it to great effect in diplomatic win when I wanted two client states. I needed two votes for a majority and two AI had been reduced to settlers at sea. Gave each of them a city in the middle of the continent with no sea access, then when the time was ripe signed them both in against the other two and made lots of gifts of tech and resource while fighting a strictly defensive war until the vote was held.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Gifting a city is what I'm talking about. I know you can't trade cities, but if we're giving one to Abe, he'll take it.
Gengis Khan
Deity
The important word was gift, nowhere did I mention anything about trading. Even the AI isn't stupid enough to turn down a free city as a gift.
How did Cheiftess become the end all, be all answer to your endless river of knowledge?
How did Cheiftess become the end all, be all answer to your endless river of knowledge?
Gengis Khan
Deity
Sorry, that was uncalled for. Just had a bad week, and the whold go test & go ask CT for better info got under my skin. I appologise for my hasty retort.
1405
Objectives:
Get troops through the jungle into Germany's heartland.
Accumulate gold for bribes and/or thievery.
Keep the citizens happy and productive.
Put some hurt on the Zulu and get Abe Saltpeter
Military census: 9 muskets, 2 knights, 9 cavalry, 9 cannon, 1 army. All attackers are healing.
Population census: Mostly happy.
1-1410
Arabs begin withdrawal from east. Most healthy cavalry are heading back NW.
Zulu archer and settler move onto plains of Lugdumum.
Begin assembling Invasion force at borders of Germany. Needs some more beefing up and healing before the move on Hamburg.
Check with the diplomats and we have no active deals with the Zulu. Time for a little extortion. First I sell him Banking for 15g and his maps. He is willing to move rather than declare. Settler and archer move onto hill east of Ibabango and he won't give us Ibabango for continued peace so...war is declared. Cannon fire cripples the archer and a musket from Lugdunum takes them down.
Cannon move onto moutnain above Ibabango and are joined by two cavalry and two muskets.
Lots of Arabs moving around in the east. Troops west and settlers east. Carhage is also moving troops into position against Germany.
2-1415
Cannons kill a couple of Zulu at Ibabango but don't scratch the Impi. Cavalry attack and kill an Impi. One more to go.
German LB shows in jungle. Arabs move cavalry to west and decide to pay a courtesy call. He wants Protection, Passage and 50gpt. No!! When that message is delivered his cavlary turn back east.
Carthage has built a ville on the SE coast forcing the healing army to move.
3-1420
Continue the barrage of Ibabango cripple the lone Impi who drops to cavalry attack. Will hole the city briefly until I can contact Abe. Give Abe the village.
Call up Monte and buy some wine and his maps for banking and reduce lux to zero.
Elite knight kills German longbow and the invasion of Germany resumes.
4-1425
Two cavalry attack Hamburg, kill two spears and the city burns.
Elite pike kills a cav and retreats the second at Konigsberg.
Healing army and cavalry move into position to attack Konigsberg next.
German slaves move to blockade Arabs
German longbow kills cav at Konigsberg
5-1430
Army kills elite pike at Konigsberg
Start assembling force in forest south of Alesia.
Konigsberg falls to Arab cavalry. Arabian rifles show up in our territory.
Frankfurt also falls to Arab cavalry.
A lone Zulu bogey potholes a road east of Entremont.
6-1435
Zulu impi is accompanying a settler. Cavalry from Lugdunum saddles up and captures two more slaves.
Arabs take Berlin
7-1440
Repositioning troops in east to heal.
Build a couple of spice colonies.
Arabs destroy the Germans
8-1445
Healing troops in the east and trying to get an accurate count on the Arabs.
There are at least twelve cavalry and a rifle either within our borders or heading east. A couple of longbows and two more cavalry are in the Mongol lands. There are also at least two settler pairs on their way east.
9-1450
Positioning troops at the saltpeter colony. When the attack on Arbia comes Hama must fall first as it threatens our source of saltpeter. THe forces in the far east are healing and we probably outnumber the Arbs down there for the moment and they have no defenders worth noting yet, though I expect to se rifles soon. Berlin and Leipzig are held by cavalry only.
Ship Abe iron and spices for Navigation and 50g then try a safe steal for 1500g..we succeed and take ToG. The iron and spices are safe from encroachment for a least long enough to get the deal complete. I'm more woried about our saltpeter anyway.
We can buy Magnetism from Arabia or Carthage if we want, or wait ten turns and go for another steal. If we buy from Arabia we could do the dastardly of paying gpt then asking him to leave or declare.
Shaka will give his last two cities and 8g for peace. Leave it for the next player.
10-1455
Building forces at the saltpeter colony and find some really bad news. Arabia has infantry in the garrison at Hamas!!
There is a Zulu settler pair heading north toward Ibabango
The problem of what do about Arabia has gotten really ugly. There is at least on infantry in Hamas and who knows how many elsewhere, though none in old Germany that I can see.
I don't even want to offer any suggestions. Our population is happy and productive but we are so far behind the big dog I don't know how to get back in the hunt. I may have met the objectives for this set but I'm not sure where to go from here.
Next far better player.
Screenshots to follow.
Objectives:
Get troops through the jungle into Germany's heartland.
Accumulate gold for bribes and/or thievery.
Keep the citizens happy and productive.
Put some hurt on the Zulu and get Abe Saltpeter
Military census: 9 muskets, 2 knights, 9 cavalry, 9 cannon, 1 army. All attackers are healing.
Population census: Mostly happy.
1-1410
Arabs begin withdrawal from east. Most healthy cavalry are heading back NW.
Zulu archer and settler move onto plains of Lugdumum.
Begin assembling Invasion force at borders of Germany. Needs some more beefing up and healing before the move on Hamburg.
Check with the diplomats and we have no active deals with the Zulu. Time for a little extortion. First I sell him Banking for 15g and his maps. He is willing to move rather than declare. Settler and archer move onto hill east of Ibabango and he won't give us Ibabango for continued peace so...war is declared. Cannon fire cripples the archer and a musket from Lugdunum takes them down.
Cannon move onto moutnain above Ibabango and are joined by two cavalry and two muskets.
Lots of Arabs moving around in the east. Troops west and settlers east. Carhage is also moving troops into position against Germany.
2-1415
Cannons kill a couple of Zulu at Ibabango but don't scratch the Impi. Cavalry attack and kill an Impi. One more to go.
German LB shows in jungle. Arabs move cavalry to west and decide to pay a courtesy call. He wants Protection, Passage and 50gpt. No!! When that message is delivered his cavlary turn back east.
Carthage has built a ville on the SE coast forcing the healing army to move.
3-1420
Continue the barrage of Ibabango cripple the lone Impi who drops to cavalry attack. Will hole the city briefly until I can contact Abe. Give Abe the village.
Call up Monte and buy some wine and his maps for banking and reduce lux to zero.
Elite knight kills German longbow and the invasion of Germany resumes.
4-1425
Two cavalry attack Hamburg, kill two spears and the city burns.
Elite pike kills a cav and retreats the second at Konigsberg.
Healing army and cavalry move into position to attack Konigsberg next.
German slaves move to blockade Arabs
German longbow kills cav at Konigsberg
5-1430
Army kills elite pike at Konigsberg
Start assembling force in forest south of Alesia.
Konigsberg falls to Arab cavalry. Arabian rifles show up in our territory.
Frankfurt also falls to Arab cavalry.
A lone Zulu bogey potholes a road east of Entremont.
6-1435
Zulu impi is accompanying a settler. Cavalry from Lugdunum saddles up and captures two more slaves.
Arabs take Berlin
7-1440
Repositioning troops in east to heal.
Build a couple of spice colonies.
Arabs destroy the Germans
8-1445
Healing troops in the east and trying to get an accurate count on the Arabs.
There are at least twelve cavalry and a rifle either within our borders or heading east. A couple of longbows and two more cavalry are in the Mongol lands. There are also at least two settler pairs on their way east.
9-1450
Positioning troops at the saltpeter colony. When the attack on Arbia comes Hama must fall first as it threatens our source of saltpeter. THe forces in the far east are healing and we probably outnumber the Arbs down there for the moment and they have no defenders worth noting yet, though I expect to se rifles soon. Berlin and Leipzig are held by cavalry only.
Ship Abe iron and spices for Navigation and 50g then try a safe steal for 1500g..we succeed and take ToG. The iron and spices are safe from encroachment for a least long enough to get the deal complete. I'm more woried about our saltpeter anyway.
We can buy Magnetism from Arabia or Carthage if we want, or wait ten turns and go for another steal. If we buy from Arabia we could do the dastardly of paying gpt then asking him to leave or declare.
Shaka will give his last two cities and 8g for peace. Leave it for the next player.
10-1455
Building forces at the saltpeter colony and find some really bad news. Arabia has infantry in the garrison at Hamas!!
There is a Zulu settler pair heading north toward Ibabango
The problem of what do about Arabia has gotten really ugly. There is at least on infantry in Hamas and who knows how many elsewhere, though none in old Germany that I can see.
I don't even want to offer any suggestions. Our population is happy and productive but we are so far behind the big dog I don't know how to get back in the hunt. I may have met the objectives for this set but I'm not sure where to go from here.
Next far better player.
Screenshots to follow.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I think our only chance is a complete dogpile on Abu. We will have to hope our western neighbors can watch our back, while we hammer in the east. Give Abe a little time to get his cavs up and running.
This game is now officially considered touch and go. Can the superior human mind outwit the AI?
Before we do this we will want to think through our campaign strategy.
This game is now officially considered touch and go. Can the superior human mind outwit the AI?
Before we do this we will want to think through our campaign strategy.
pindicator
Emperor
agreed on that Bugsy. And we're gonna have to have some treats to entice the AIs into declaring on Arabia to begin with -- I dont think we want to wait for Abu to make the first move.
I'm going to need a swap. I will not be able to play until Monday. I have Ank07 tonight (which I'm pretty late on) and then am going home for the weekend for my brother's h.s. graduation.
I'm going to need a swap. I will not be able to play until Monday. I have Ank07 tonight (which I'm pretty late on) and then am going home for the weekend for my brother's h.s. graduation.
And I also cannot take it, and yoshi is somewhere so it's Bugy again.
Tough. Gonna get really tough here with Abu. A dogpile is now the only weapon... Or is it?
yoshi74 - on a trip?
Sir Bugsy - UP!
Gengis Khan - on deck
Bede - just played
pindicator - skipped
Ankka - skipped
REMEMBER: 24h to post a got it, 48h to post the save.
Tough. Gonna get really tough here with Abu. A dogpile is now the only weapon... Or is it?
yoshi74 - on a trip?
Sir Bugsy - UP!
Gengis Khan - on deck
Bede - just played
pindicator - skipped
Ankka - skipped
REMEMBER: 24h to post a got it, 48h to post the save.
Gengis Khan
Deity
I think pretty much all we can do is produce some Muskets/cannons for a bit, then when we declare war dogpile & make sure we fight the initial wave on our pick of terrain. If we go Cav Vs Cav, or try to invade without softening up their offensive troops we'll get slaughtered.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
You guys skip too much in this game. I've got it, but I'm not happy about it.
I probably won't get to it until late Sunday or Monday. I have some IA warfare in VB2 that is on my plate next. If Ankka or Pin want to grab it back that will be fine with me.
I probably won't get to it until late Sunday or Monday. I have some IA warfare in VB2 that is on my plate next. If Ankka or Pin want to grab it back that will be fine with me.
