Another religion poll: indicate your Christian denomination

[GenMarshall]

I think you two remind me why I don't like the concept of organized religion, no offense. It tends to make people feel exclusive, closer to God, better then others.

I am in a Roman Catholic church and I don't feel exclusive, closer to God, nor feel better then others.

 

[Winner]

Going by your definition, perhaps so. But why assume that God shares your definition of a good life, and is willing to simply overlook any faults?

What faults? In other words, do you think that absence of faith is a fault? I don't think so. More on the point, many believers live immoral lives, so are they supposed to to be better than atheists, who live moral lives, but without faith in God?

No sorry, that's not what I think is right.

 

[Winner]

I am in a Roman Catholic church and I don't feel exclusive, closer to God, nor feel better then others.

Yet you said God probably care about your faith, so you expect that as a Catholic Christian, you have an advantage

 

[GenMarshall]

Yet you said God probably care about your faith, so you expect that as a Catholic Christian, you have an advantage

I believe that the Catholic Church has the fullness of the truths. Much like Eran believes that his church (The Church of LDS) has the fullness of the truths. God does care about the path you are in, but I stated that he would not hold it against you.

 

[Sidhe]

Should I (the uncovered meat girl, the "tilth to plow" the girl who has a husband forbidden to have any sex outside our union) say "no comment"?

I was talking in context of history, it was actually avery liberal faith towards relgion of its times. Compare it to the Christians or the Jews. But anyway I can't convinice you of history when modern views pervade the faith and they aren't exactly progressive.

The Protestant movement was very good for the Catholic Church and brought much needed reform.

But at the same time, try to remember that these people were locked into a huge monolith of an institution, so when they achieved liberty from the powerful Catholic Church, they were in no mind to create a new monolith.

They (or perhaps GOD) created these divisions to keep the Church fragmented deliberately, so that another horrible potential power, couldn't threaten faith anew, unimpeded by man's corruption.

Why would they just replace the RCC by another repressive institution? That would have been unthinkable!

It's a philosopical issue though, the division being God's plan, it may well be that he never intended such division, but was forbade from intervening, despite the obvious wrong that man was involved in. You could equally make the argument that if faith had of stayed as a rock there would of been no need for division, but it's a complicated issue and far from this thread. Might be worth starting one. About the schisms, because of the real interest there would be.

Personally, I don't see the Catholic Church corrupt mainly because I just don't concern myself with the Global aspect of it but rather focus more in my own Diocese and Parish. I know organizations such as the Catholic Church and secular Governments has corrupt humans running.

That's your prerogative, I agree to some extent, but it was what it was, and it does bare the brunt of responsibility for the schisms. But again that's for another thread, as the issues are far too complex for this one.

 

[Katheryn]

Meaning there are many ways of reading the Bible? Some more probable than others, but many possible.

You use a lot of words Thanks for the effort though, apreciate it

No, I didn't say that. I said that the WORD 'shebet' has many definitions, not just a 'whip for child abuse'.

That isn't 'many ways of reading a Bible' that is accurate translation and proper application.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Not to mention that the Catholic Church responded with their own counter-reformation with the Council of Trent. I only know very little about the Council of Trent other than it created the Tridentine Mass.

You know, to be honest it really didn't do a whole lot. The Jesuits came out of it, as did the Tridentine Mass, but there wasn't too much 'reforming' that took place. Not as much as could have been done, by any means.

 

[jprc]

I am sharing Winner's thoughts about religions (in general).
I will not comment much on all what was said, as the level of English used is way above my abilities.
However, I just would like to make this small post to say that I am amazed to see how calm, how well controlled are all exchanges. It is a discussion, as if we were just talking with various people while walking with our pets on the beach. Peaceful, and decent.
When Winner makes a post that goes against the main stream, he receives quiet and polite answers from people who are very much more passionated about religion that him or me...
Staying neutral as much as I can, I would rather say that I would love to have people able to discuss for/against religions with so much freedom in many places in this planet, nowdays, and I would love to see the same thread about Musulman religion, animated with convinced muslims and atheist, and with the same open mind as in this thread...
Religions are not wars, it is a way of life or death for some; or an old book of rules for others, once made necessary for at least reunifying people without any basic law.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Nothing wrong with your english and a very clear post.

It's the beauty of internet discussions. All you have to 'fight' with are words.

 

[Eukaryote]

Anglican with ten charicters...

 

[Taliesin]

You know, to be honest it really didn't do a whole lot. The Jesuits came out of it, as did the Tridentine Mass

And lots of pretty pictures...

 

[King Flevance]

do you think that absence of faith is a fault?

Yes. Because it is faith in your creator to look out for your best interests when we still do not understand the universe entirely. Do not confuse faith for religion. I have faith in God and Christ. By not having faith I am on my own, and I know I mess up from time to time. By having faith that God and Christ are watching out for me, I have a leg-up on life.

EDIT: However, I do not think any christian has a leg-up on another Christian. Other than being better versed in the bible. Denomination is just preference.

 

[Swedishguy]

I am in a Roman Catholic church and I don't feel exclusive, closer to God, nor feel better then others.

Didn't you mention that you are an ex-christian in another thread?