I was wondering if Dame Nellie Melba would be a better option... or Ned Kelly?This still bothers me. He hated Australia, and did everything he could to get away, and stay away.
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Although I'm not Argentinian, I don't understand the fetish many 4X game advocates have with having Argentinian civ's led by Eva Peron - the pretty face of her husband's Fascism!This still bothers me. He hated Australia, and did everything he could to get away, and stay away.
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There's so many great options.I was wondering if Dame Nellie Melba would be a better option... or Ned Kelly?
The other possible Korean leader could be Shin Saimdang, I guess. Her historical portrait looks pretty like that female leader's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Saimdang ; https://www.google.com/search?q=신사임당&tbm=isch ; https://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/HonoraryReporters/view?articleId=195664Alright this last video confirmed that the Shongai leader is actually Askia Muhammad I, with that (if you don't count Eva Perón, Jonh A. Macdonald and Benito Juárez who didn't get their names shown in the UI) the only mysteries left are who is the Inca leader that seens to be an Sapa Inca, and who is the white dress East Asian lady (most likely another Korean leader). Also, Alexander is confirmed as another leader for Greece, so no Macedon this time (despite we getting an separeted HRE from Germany). So 45 leaders and 40 nations:
# NATION LEADERS 01 The Abbasid Caliphate Harun al-Rashid 02 The Apsáalooké Osh-Tisch 03 Argentina Eva Perón 04 The Assyrian Empire Sennacherib 05 Australia Howard Florey 06 The Aztec Empire Itzcoatl 07 Belgium Leopold I 08 The Byzantine Empire Irene Sarantapechaena 09 Canada John A. Macdonald 10 The Celts Boudicca 11 The Cherokee Wilma Mankiller 12 China Confucius 13 China Wu Zetian 14 Egypt Nefertiti 15 England Elizabeth I 16 Ethiopia Haile Selassie 17 France Jeanne d'Arc 18 Georgia Tamar the Great 19 Germany Hildegard of Bingen 20 Germany Otto von Bismarck 21 Ghana Yaa Asantewaa 22 Greece Alexander the Great 23 Greece Sappho 24 The Holy Roman Empire Charlemagne 25 The Inca Empire Sapa Inca Guy ? 26 India Ashoka 27 Italy Cesare Beccaria 28 Japan Tokugawa Ieyasu 29 Korea Sejong the Great 30 Korea White Dress Lady ? 31 Kush Amaniremas 32 Mexico Benito Juárez 33 The Mongol Empire Genghis Khan 34 The Palmyrene Empire Zenobia 35 The First Persian Empire Xerxes I 36 Poland Nicolas Copernicus 37 The Roman Empire Julius Caesar 38 Russia Catherine the Great 39 The Songhai Empire Askia Muhammad I 40 Spain Isabella I 41 Thailand Ram Khamhaeng 42 United States George Washington 43 United States Harriet Tubman 44 Venezuela Simón Bolívar 45 Zulu Shaka
Xbox Wire posted a screenshot showing the Incan leader is Pachacuti. https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2024/06/12/ara-history-untold-release-date-multiplayer-details/Alright this last video confirmed that the Shongai leader is actually Askia Muhammad I, with that (if you don't count Eva Perón, Jonh A. Macdonald and Benito Juárez who didn't get their names shown in the UI) the only mysteries left are who is the Inca leader that seens to be an Sapa Inca, and who is the white dress East Asian lady (most likely another Korean leader). Also, Alexander is confirmed as another leader for Greece, so no Macedon this time (despite we getting an separeted HRE from Germany). So 45 leaders and 40 nations:
# NATION LEADERS 01 The Abbasid Caliphate Harun al-Rashid 02 The Apsáalooké Osh-Tisch 03 Argentina Eva Perón 04 The Assyrian Empire Sennacherib 05 Australia Howard Florey 06 The Aztec Empire Itzcoatl 07 Belgium Leopold I 08 The Byzantine Empire Irene Sarantapechaena 09 Canada John A. Macdonald 10 The Celts Boudicca 11 The Cherokee Wilma Mankiller 12 China Confucius 13 China Wu Zetian 14 Egypt Nefertiti 15 England Elizabeth I 16 Ethiopia Haile Selassie 17 France Jeanne d'Arc 18 Georgia Tamar the Great 19 Germany Hildegard of Bingen 20 Germany Otto von Bismarck 21 Ghana Yaa Asantewaa 22 Greece Alexander the Great 23 Greece Sappho 24 The Holy Roman Empire Charlemagne 25 The Inca Empire Sapa Inca Guy ? 26 India Ashoka 27 Italy Cesare Beccaria 28 Japan Tokugawa Ieyasu 29 Korea Sejong the Great 30 Korea White Dress Lady ? 31 Kush Amaniremas 32 Mexico Benito Juárez 33 The Mongol Empire Genghis Khan 34 The Palmyrene Empire Zenobia 35 The First Persian Empire Xerxes I 36 Poland Nicolas Copernicus 37 The Roman Empire Julius Caesar 38 Russia Catherine the Great 39 The Songhai Empire Askia Muhammad I 40 Spain Isabella I 41 Thailand Ram Khamhaeng 42 United States George Washington 43 United States Harriet Tubman 44 Venezuela Simón Bolívar 45 Zulu Shaka
Given that it is Jeanne D'Arc, I think it does make some sense (in some way), no?
Alright this last video confirmed that the Shongai leader is actually Askia Muhammad I, with that (if you don't count Eva Perón, Jonh A. Macdonald and Benito Juárez who didn't get their names shown in the UI) the only mysteries left are who is the Inca leader that seens to be an Sapa Inca, and who is the white dress East Asian lady (most likely another Korean leader). Also, Alexander is confirmed as another leader for Greece, so no Macedon this time (despite we getting an separeted HRE from Germany). So 45 leaders and 40 nations:
# NATION LEADERS 01 The Abbasid Caliphate Harun al-Rashid 02 The Apsáalooké Osh-Tisch 03 Argentina Eva Perón 04 The Assyrian Empire Sennacherib 05 Australia Howard Florey 06 The Aztec Empire Itzcoatl 07 Belgium Leopold I 08 The Byzantine Empire Irene Sarantapechaena 09 Canada John A. Macdonald 10 The Celts Boudicca 11 The Cherokee Wilma Mankiller 12 China Confucius 13 China Wu Zetian 14 Egypt Nefertiti 15 England Elizabeth I 16 Ethiopia Haile Selassie 17 France Jeanne d'Arc 18 Georgia Tamar the Great 19 Germany Hildegard of Bingen 20 Germany Otto von Bismarck 21 Ghana Yaa Asantewaa 22 Greece Alexander the Great 23 Greece Sappho 24 The Holy Roman Empire Charlemagne 25 The Inca Empire Sapa Inca Guy ? 26 India Ashoka 27 Italy Cesare Beccaria 28 Japan Tokugawa Ieyasu 29 Korea Sejong the Great 30 Korea White Dress Lady ? 31 Kush Amaniremas 32 Mexico Benito Juárez 33 The Mongol Empire Genghis Khan 34 The Palmyrene Empire Zenobia 35 The First Persian Empire Xerxes I 36 Poland Nicolas Copernicus 37 The Roman Empire Julius Caesar 38 Russia Catherine the Great 39 The Songhai Empire Askia Muhammad I 40 Spain Isabella I 41 Thailand Ram Khamhaeng 42 United States George Washington 43 United States Harriet Tubman 44 Venezuela Simón Bolívar 45 Zulu Shaka
I agree it should be included, but I would also point out what I have said when this kind of question comes up with civ: I don't see the list of civs as a statement on which civs were the most important or influential in history. Civs, or in this case, Nations, may be included for a variety of reasons, including things like importance, but also just variety, flavour, novelty, and maybe market appeal. That's why we can get something like Norway in Civ 6. I have no illusion that my country of 5,5 million people is among the most important in the world, but for Civ 6, it was chosen to represent the Norse/Vikings, to add that particular flavour to the game.What the hell?!? There are 45 leaders, 40 civilizations and not one Turkish not even a Turkic civilization?
Perhaps as a Turk this is my bias and I dont want to come out as a d*ck but I sure feel like we have been way more influential in world history than at least some of these civilizations? Seljuks, Timurids, Ottomans, Turkey, Gokturks, Mamluks, Mughals... none of them made it? Even Huns although there is debate regarding who they exactly were... I would have taken it?
I mean no hate for them but there is Georgia, Venezuela, Ghana, Argentina, ''The Apsáalooké''... I am sure we could have made it into the list with at least one civ![]()
It might not be the final list of leaders or civs though, we still have to wait for the finished product. Otherwise, if this is the final list, I share your disappointment. It's most likely that they'll have the Ottomans or any other Turkic group for an expansion.What the hell?!? There are 45 leaders, 40 civilizations and not one Turkish not even a Turkic civilization?
Perhaps as a Turk this is my bias and I dont want to come out as a d*ck but I sure feel like we have been way more influential in world history than at least some of these civilizations? Seljuks, Timurids, Ottomans, Turkey, Gokturks, Mamluks, Mughals... none of them made it? Even Huns although there is debate regarding who they exactly were... I would have taken it?
I mean no hate for them but there is Georgia, Venezuela, Ghana, Argentina, ''The Apsáalooké''... I am sure we could have made it into the list with at least one civ![]()
It looks like this list already includes dlcs.It might not be the final list of leaders or civs though, we still have to wait for the finished product. Otherwise, if this is the final list, I share your disappointment. It's most likely that they'll have the Ottomans or any other Turkic group for an expansion.
How can you tell? In any case, if the game is successful, there will likely be more DLC later on.It looks like this list already includes dlcs.![]()
The thing about it is that this list, in the end, is mostly speculation. We wouldn't 100% know unless we actually play the game. Also it's not confirmed from the list which ones are going to be in a DLC. In fact we don't know if they are going to be DLCs in the future. The DLCs that we know of so far are the pre-order bonuses.It looks like this list already includes dlcs.![]()