[GS] Are city-states getting all clustered together now? (Fractal)

[Dearmad]

I notice there are large areas with none, and then wham! It's like an entire nation of them all packed tightly together. So far on three maps this has happened.

 

[Noble Zarkon]

Seen quite a bit of this on Archipelago / Islands Plates - islands with 2 or 3 city states on them, I quite like it.

 

[Gehennas]

Thought this was always a thing. I remember the Islands covered by 4-5 City States

 

[Hans Castorp]

I've seen this a few time as well, on Pangaea and Continents. Some continents have no CS, some 1-2, then one will have 6. Annoying when you try and play Hungary and don't find any CS for 100 turns....

 

[MarigoldRan]

Yes. You either get 0-1 CSes, or you get like 10. Makes maps totally unbalanced.

 

[TomKQT]

In my first GS game (continents, standard size), I didn't find a single CS on my starting huge landmass, which means I played for few hours without meeting any CS at all. I started to think that there is some bug in the game settings, because I certainly didn't change the number of CS to zero, and I didn't check the screen.
I'll post a screenshot when I come home.

 

[AriochIV]

Weren't they always clustered together? Seems like there were always a bunch off on their own little continent.

 

[Hans Castorp]

Weren't they always clustered together? Seems like there were always a bunch off on their own little continent.

Yes, that's an established pattern. But I don't remember Pangaea maps having a huge cluster at one end of the super-continent, and none at all at the other.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm currently playing on a continents map and there is a supercluster of city-states on a peninsula. They were packed so tightly that one was unable to found its city and I snagged its settler.

 

[Kopernikus1979]

Same here, with continents, 9 quite next to each other.

 

[oedali]

Same, continents standard map, just found 7 clustered together on a different continent.

I believe it's due to the fact that the ones that are not clustered tend to get eaten up by the AI (on deity at least) so only the ones on their own continent have a chance to survive.

 

[lordhaw]

I've found this as well. Last game, about half of the city-states were off to themselves on their own small continent (or large island, not certain which) with no AI players at all. The AI and myself were on two other large continents with the rest of the city states, most of which got gobbled up by the AI. That was a standard size continent map. My current game is not like that though.

 

[Canadian Bluebeer]

Clustered at bottom of my continent, bit more scattered on the others.

 

[DrJambo]

Yup, seen this in both the games I’ve played! All clustered together on one continent while many of the civs on the other. Seems a bit imbalanced to me. In one game I got the first met bonus for around 6 city states, which is a huge advantage.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

A big question I have is should I restart if I find the city-states all clustered together? Or is the result not a big deal or so common that it can't be avoided?

I'm really hoping @Gedemon can fix this with YnAMP.

 

[Dearmad]

I'm currently playing on a continents map and there is a supercluster of city-states on a peninsula. They were packed so tightly that one was unable to found its city and I snagged its settler.

OK so this doesn't seem to be WAD anymore to me.

 

[ExemplarVoss]

Thought this was always a thing. I remember the Islands covered by 4-5 City States

Yeah, same. What I've seen doesn't look new to me. I mostly play fractal

 

[purringcat]

I played continents with 12 CS. Eight of them were bunched on one continent while almost all the Leaders were on another continent with just three CS. One CS was on a lone island. The eight that were crunched on the small continent, were all within six tiles of each other and the two civs were at the far end ... quite a distance from the CS. This seems to be the norm in every map I play.

 

[Dearmad]

Well all of this flies in the face of this patch note:

"Spread out all Civilization and City-State starting positions where possible when generating the map."

 

[Victoria]

I play continents and I thought they were more clustered than normal. Now I suspect there is less land than there used to be.