Are you a Nice Guy who can't seem to get a date because you're too nice?

Why? Every time I've given my opinion in these kinds of threads, I've been dismissed with a "you don't know what you're talking about because you're a woman" attitude. Then I wonder why you all don't just write to Dear Abby and be done with it.


I suppose that's a useful way to avoid facing the inconvenient fact that you might just be wrong.
 
I suppose that's a useful way to avoid facing the inconvenient fact that you might just be wrong.

Like all broads, right? High-five, Pat! :cool:
 
It is difficult to discuss when 'nice' is such a vague word
 
Nice=kind, considerate, unselfish, caring, sympathetic, compassionate, etc?
 
Women are women. Too variable to predict any specific case.

The only reality is that women very likely WILL have sex with men you dont approve of.
And if you ask them why, they will laugh at you. That is the nature of the beast.

You want to know what women fantasize about? Just watch 'Supernatural'

But remember, that is young women. Older women (cf over 28)
Have calmed down a bit.

The only good advice is to NOT fall in love. Just do whatever, and dont get attached.
The attachment is what causes the pain.
 
My advice is completely the opposite. Love first, then do whatever follows.
 
Women are women. Too variable to predict any specific case.

The only reality is that women very likely WILL have sex with men you dont approve of.
And if you ask them why, they will laugh at you. That is the nature of the beast.

You want to know what women fantasize about? Just watch 'Supernatural'

But remember, that is young women. Older women (cf over 28)
Have calmed down a bit.

The only good advice is to NOT fall in love. Just do whatever, and dont get attached.
The attachment is what causes the pain.

Jeez we got some freakin winners in this thread.
 
Jeez we got some freakin winners in this thread.

Yes surly. Hand her the power and 'hope' she wont misuse it. I have a lifetime of observation and experience that says - DONT DO THAT.

Ever been hit on by one of your friends wives? Its a BIG wake up call about how things in the world simply dont work the way they should.

If that ever happens to ANY of you, my advice is to excuse yourself, and RUN LIKE HELL.
Never talk to her alone again. Its good advice.

and dont run and blab to your friend. He doesnt want to know. and he will blame YOU for the pain. Just get out of the way of the train wreck.
 
this post is for men.....

This is serious advice. As such it will be ignored, I am certain. That doesnt make it invalid. Just unpopular.

When playing with the fire (ie trying to get the attention of women)

There are a few tactics that you should use:

1) Learn to think like a woman. Would you date yourself? Would you even like yourself?
If so, then WHY? The answers are not always comforting.

2) What do you offer a/any women. You see that often overlooked point actually matters to WOMEN.

3) No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER be the center of her universe. Stop assuming you are.

4) If she did it to one guy, she will do it to YOU. NEVER assume your special. Your NOT. And she knows it.

5) When you first notice a woman, and your attracted to her....
STOP - and ask yourself WHY. WHY do I want to get to know her?
You really need to answer that question. Inertia doesnt cut it.

If it is because: She is cute. Has a nice rack. Nice ass. Nice legs. Great, your a bottom feeder to her. Because she knows that stuff. I assure you.
You will be evaluated on the same type of criteria. You wont like it.
Women dont want humdrum. They want exotic. That is why some of the lamest lines,
delivered in the right way, sometimes work. Sure she knows she is being played.
But she DOESNT CARE.

6) Never assume your smarter than she is. Even if you were right, its the kiss of death.

7) Prove to her your special. That your worth knowing. If your not, then work on it.
 
Now, that was a depressing read. Probably just too true.

I would like to be more confident, but it just doesn't seem normal for me to be like that. Don't ask me why,as I don't know, but I really can't see myself going up to some girl and saying "Hey, I like you, want to go out with me?" or something along those lines.

Then you should try some events, which are meant for dating (e.g. speed dating).
There this is the purpose, so you don't have to worry.
 
this post is for men.....

This is serious advice. As such it will be ignored, I am certain. That doesnt make it invalid. Just unpopular.

When playing with the fire (ie trying to get the attention of women)

There are a few tactics that you should use:

1) Learn to think like a woman. Would you date yourself? Would you even like yourself?
If so, then WHY? The answers are not always comforting.

2) What do you offer a/any women. You see that often overlooked point actually matters to WOMEN.

3) No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER be the center of her universe. Stop assuming you are.

4) If she did it to one guy, she will do it to YOU. NEVER assume your special. Your NOT. And she knows it.

5) When you first notice a woman, and your attracted to her....
STOP - and ask yourself WHY. WHY do I want to get to know her?
You really need to answer that question. Inertia doesnt cut it.

If it is because: She is cute. Has a nice rack. Nice ass. Nice legs. Great, your a bottom feeder to her. Because she knows that stuff. I assure you.
You will be evaluated on the same type of criteria. You wont like it.
Women dont want humdrum. They want exotic. That is why some of the lamest lines,
delivered in the right way, sometimes work. Sure she knows she is being played.
But she DOESNT CARE.

6) Never assume your smarter than she is. Even if you were right, its the kiss of death.

7) Prove to her your special. That your worth knowing. If your not, then work on it.
Listen, men. This is all crap. Fine. Try it.

It might even appear to work. But don't fool yourself. That would just be coincidence. Sticking a daffodil up your backside might work too. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

There really is no secret. No magic formula. Nothing you can do or say or appear to be.

If that woman wants you, she will let you know in no uncertain terms. The only thing, your only hope, is that you are sufficiently aware/alert/lucky to realize it.

You might be able to impress some women with the size of your wallet, I'll grant you that too.

And those women are generally called prostitutes. Good luck with forming a meaningful relationship with one. It's surely not impossible.

But the above advice from Chiteng is just some cobbled together stuff he's seen on the Internet.
 
1) Learn to think like a woman. Would you date yourself? Would you even like yourself?
If so, then WHY? The answers are not always comforting.

2) What do you offer a/any women. You see that often overlooked point actually matters to WOMEN.

3) No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER be the center of her universe. Stop assuming you are.

4) If she did it to one guy, she will do it to YOU. NEVER assume your special. Your NOT. And she knows it.

5) When you first notice a woman, and your attracted to her....
STOP - and ask yourself WHY. WHY do I want to get to know her?
You really need to answer that question. Inertia doesnt cut it.

oh is that what it takes
 
Listen, men. This is all crap. Fine. Try it.

It might even appear to work. But don't fool yourself. That would just be coincidence. Sticking a daffodil up your backside might work too. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

There really is no secret. No magic formula. Nothing you can do or say or appear to be.

If that woman wants you, she will let you know in no uncertain terms. The only thing, your only hope, is that you are sufficiently aware/alert/lucky to realize it.

You might be able to impress some women with the size of your wallet, I'll grant you that too.

And those women are generally called prostitutes. Good luck with forming a meaningful relationship with one. It's surely not impossible.

But the above advice from Chiteng is just some cobbled together stuff he's seen on the Internet.

Not so =)
But as I said. It will be ignored =)
If it were on the internet, I suspect you could easily find it.
Never claimed it was a 'magic formula' its simply advice.
 
I've indeed seen some remarkably similar advice before. I honestly can't remember the name of the site.

edit: there's no "convincing" a woman. They can really make up their own minds on who they want to breed with. Millennia of evolution have largely taken care of that. I'm surprised you think you can second guess it.
 
I've indeed seen some remarkably similar advice before. I honestly can't remember the name of the site.

edit: there's no "convincing" a woman. They can really make up their own minds on who they want to breed with. Millennia of evolution have largely taken care of that.

I see =) So you have no useful advice then =)
Ok
 
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