Atheists and attacking/vehemently questioning others' faith

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MobBoss said:
No its not. We allow people who are not christian to vote dont we? All the people that you mentioned are free to be married according to their religion are they not? Of course they are. Your allegation is both baseless and just silly.

No..I dont see it, because your proof isnt there.

Bottom line, this thread has become a prime example of its title as we see the conduct here. They are doing exactly what the OP accuses them of doing. I dont have to prove a thing.
So why can't homosexuals get married?
 
Calling someone's beliefs illogical while explaining why is not "attacking" or being "intolerant" of others' faith. If someone believes in something that is not logical, they have a lot of explaining to do.
 
MobBoss said:
No...I wouldnt vote for you because you hate christians and make fun of their faith. Slight difference there. Standing up to your intolerance and voicing my opinion doesnt make me wrong. Neither does it make me a fanatic. It makes me unwilling to simply swallow your crap.

No, but the manner you chose to stand to atheists intolerance makes you intolerant in equal fashion. That's just what got to be clearly understood in here.

Regards :).
 
Perfectionist said:
What about Confucius, Zoroaster, Lao Tzu and Siddhartha Gautama. Their messages have lasted longer than Jesus'. Do you consider them to be divine?

Since I dont really know anything about them I decline comment. But you wont catch me referring to them as "myth", nor would I be so rude to someone of that faith to insult them in that way. Regardless of what Skadistic thinks, I respect peoples faiths far more than he himself does.
 
skadistic said:
So why can't homosexuals get married?

Last I checked homosexuality wasnt a religion. But the reason they cant, is that our nation has from its begininning considered marriage to be a union between a single man and a single woman. You want to change it, run for something higher than dog catcher, get elected and change the laws. But dont count on my vote.
 
MobBoss said:
Since I dont really know anything about them I decline comment. But you wont catch me referring to them as "myth", nor would I be so rude to someone of that faith to insult them in that way. Regardless of what Skadistic thinks, I respect peoples faiths far more than he himself does.
Care to have your posting history regarding Muslims brought into this?
 
John HSOG said:
If someone thinks hard enough about religion and God, and then declares themself Atheist instead of just remaining Agnostic; I would have to agree that there is something to be concerned about.

And would you say the same thing about someone who thinks hard enough about religion and God and declares him/herself religious? If not, that's a double standard.

Mobboss said:
This attitude right here is why I would never, ever, as long as I live, vote for an athiest for anything. Not even dogcatcher. As far as I am concerned atheism = intolerance.

One of the more ridiculous things I've heard you say.

So in order for me to be 'tolerant', I have to pick up a religion and become a member?
 
JollyRoger said:
Care to have your posting history regarding Muslims brought into this?

I respect Muslims...I dont respect Islamic Fanatics for obvious reasons. And I have been consistent in that as well.

But hey, if you want to play forum cop go right ahead...its your time to waste.
 
MobBoss said:
Since I dont really know anything about them I decline comment. But you wont catch me referring to them as "myth", nor would I be so rude to someone of that faith to insult them in that way. Regardless of what Skadistic thinks, I respect peoples faiths far more than he himself does.
You just wont tolerate other faiths. All those people you know nothing about are older then Jesus and their teachings are still well know. Maybe should educate yourself.
 
MobBoss said:
I respect Muslims...I dont respect Islamic Fanatics for obvious reasons. And I have been consistent in that as well.

But hey, if you want to play forum cop go right ahead...its your time to waste.

And I don't respect Christian fanatics who take thier faith to a literal, ridiculous level. Normal ones are fine with me.
 
warpus said:
One of the more ridiculous things I've heard you say.

Nope. Consider. Who is the number one distrusted group in America today? Answer: Its not Muslims...its Atheists.

Now perhaps you should consider why the majority of americans thinks this way. The answer is right here in this thread.

So in order for me to be 'tolerant', I have to pick up a religion and become a member?

No..in order for you to be more tolerant, I would say dont be so eager to insult people over their faith.
 
Perfectionist said:
What about Confucius, Zoroaster, Lao Tzu and Siddhartha Gautama. Their messages have lasted longer than Jesus'. Do you consider them to be divine?
I respect thoes religions. Though personaly I consider Confuciuisim as a philosophy since they dont have any belief in a deity and spirits. However I have asked this in a poll years back and most people say Confuciousism is a philosophy.

Zoroaster and Zoroasternism. Well without him the concept of Monotheism would not influenced the Jewish people whom were in exile in that rea.

I dont cast any of the other faith's as mythologies. I respect their faith and religion eventhough I dont reconize their text.
 
MobBoss said:
Last I checked homosexuality wasnt a religion. But the reason they cant, is that our nation has from its begininning considered marriage to be a union between a single man and a single woman. You want to change it, run for something higher than dog catcher, get elected and change the laws. But dont count on my vote.
So you are only tolerant of religion? Do know where the term lesbian comes from? You realy should find out. Or go on being ignorant.

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MobBoss said:
I respect Muslims...I dont respect Islamic Fanatics for obvious reasons.
I respect Christians . . . I don't respect Christian Fanatics for obvious reasons.

Edit: The point of this post is to show how the quote looks in another context, not meant to insult anybody.
 
Ok, can we ceace with the exchange of insults before this thread gets locked up? The thread has been going well and I hate to see it closed because of exchange of personal insults to each other.
 
I just find the fact that there is nothing at all that logically points to the existance of an active God a good enough reason to not believe in one. All you religious folks were told what to believe in some shape or form, and the myth is why don't you question what you have been told?
 
CivGeneral said:
I respect thoes religions. Though personaly I consider Confuciuisim as a philosophy since they dont have any belief in a deity and spirits. However I have asked this in a poll years back and most people say Confuciousism is a philosophy.

In it's defense, religion does not have to include a deity. It's mainly a system of beliefs believed by a group of people to explain the unknown.

Such as the creation of the universe, the world, and what happens after death. It is not required to have a deity to worship.
 
Gilder said:
In it's defense, religion does not have to include a deity. It's mainly a system of beliefs believed by a group of people to explain the unknown.
That is true, we can take a look at Buddhism. It has no centralized deity that is worshiped. When I refer that Confuciusism is just a philosophy, I am making referance to the vanilla Confuciusism that has not been touched by Taoism or any of the Chinese Folk religions. Even right now it is debateable whether or not Confucianism is a religion or a philosophy since many of Confucius statements about the existance of other-worldy beings would sound more agnostic and humanistic to Western ears, Thus Confucianism is oftenly an ethical tradition and not a religion. Eventhough the UN reconizes Confucianism as a religion, it does not prevent us from debating it further if it is a religion or not if we ignore the Chinese folk religions that has been mixed in with Confucianism.
 
JollyRoger said:
I respect Christians . . . I don't respect Christian Fanatics for obvious reasons.

Edit: The point of this post is to show how the quote looks in another context, not meant to insult anybody.

Well, in order for it to be in context, I must point out that I do actually respect Muslims, while you on the other hand....:mischief:
 
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