Athiest's Lawsuit Fails...

[CurtSibling]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199211,00.html

Two comments on this.

How has having "In God We Trust" on our money harmed anyone in all the years it has been done?

Secondly, isnt this a case where the plaintiff's relgious views are trying to be forced onto all the rest of us in the USA?

Discuss.

Depends who the 'we' is meant to be.

If I my nation had something like this on it's currency, it would not bother me.

The 'we' quite obviously doesn't include me, as I care not about someone else's fantasy invisible god.

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[MobBoss]

Depends who the 'we' is meant to be.

If I my nation had something like this on it's currency, it would not bother me.

The 'we' quite obviously doesn't include me, as I care not about someone else's fantasy invisible god.

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Which is what strikes me on stuff like this. If 2/3rds the nation wants to do God this or God that...what the heck do the atheists care anyways? Like Curt said, let us put it on our money...put the commandments where ever, pray prior to opening congress, etc. etc. How does it change what an atheist feels in any way?

 

[.Shane.]

I value everyone's opinion, because they are entitled to it.

I don't.

In fact, I'm glad you used this expression ("everyone's entitled to their own opinion"). I'd like to start a licensing program. So, if you want to discuss, say, auto repair, you have to have a license to do so. If not, you're free to discuss it until someone with a higher license levels tells you to STFU.

That way, if at lunch break and I some idiot who's idea of political truth is AM Radio is spouting off, we can have a license duel. 95 times out of 100, I should get to tell him to stuff it.

 

[GenMarshall]

How does it change what an atheist feels in any way?

I think atheists dont like having other people's religion being forced uppon them.

 

[Shadylookin]

Two comments on this.

How has having "In God We Trust" on our money harmed anyone in all the years it has been done?

Secondly, isnt this a case where the plaintiff's relgious views are trying to be forced onto all the rest of us in the USA?

Discuss.

it makes atheist feel unwanted and furthers the sterotype that atheists are bad people.

if you feel that "in god we trust" is a religious statement then it legally have to be removed and if it doesn't make a religious statement then how is removing it forcing a different religious upon you?

I don't really care if scotus gets rid of it or not as it makes me chuckle and reminds me where people really place their faith in

 

[CurtSibling]

Which is what strikes me on stuff like this. If 2/3rds the nation wants to do God this or God that...what the heck do the atheists care anyways? Like Curt said, let us put it on our money...put the commandments where ever, pray prior to opening congress, etc. etc. How does it change what an atheist feels in any way?

I guess it is because we share the same planet as you people, and do not want your deities pushed in our faces.

But, I do think more atheists could be more cynical. The best thing to do is let the theists have their fantasies.

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[malclave]

I guess it is because we share the same planet as you people, and do not want your deities pushed in our faces.

But, I do think more atheists could be more cynical. The best thing to do is let the theists have their fantasies.

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I find it interesting that you have no problem pushing your own beliefs in others' faces, but object when others do the same.

 

[blackheart]

I find it interesting that you have no problem pushing your own beliefs in others' faces, but object when others do the same.

Again, how does removing the words "In God we Trust" push atheism in our faces? It wouldn't be "In a nonexistant God we don't trust" would it?

 

[malclave]

Again, how does removing the words "In God we Trust" push atheism in our faces? It wouldn't be "In a nonexistant God we don't trust" would it?

I was referring to the poster's repeated use of the word "fantasy" in describing others' beliefs.

It's pretty clearly an insulting term in the context used.

 

[Der Sensenmann]

Which is what strikes me on stuff like this. If 2/3rds the nation wants to do God this or God that...what the heck do the atheists care anyways? Like Curt said, let us put it on our money...put the commandments where ever, pray prior to opening congress, etc. etc. How does it change what an atheist feels in any way?

The issue (not the lawsuit) is not necessarily about whether or not the phrase offends atheists or other non-monotheists, but rather the more general message sent by having the God reference on the coins. In a secular country founded on separation of church and state, the government is setting a very poor example by having a religious reference on its currency. This is because it sends the message that the government does not honour some of the ideals of its own Constitution.

To that end, I would support the removal of the God reference (if I were American, that is) not because it offends me as an agnostic, but because it is a betrayal of the USA's founding principles.