Katheryn said:
He is the TOP LEADER in Australia, and that makes him ACCOUNTABLE for his actions, for his words. Instead, you try to make ME accountable for his words. That is absurd.
No, I'm trying to make you accountable of your own words.
I asked source of your claims that 10% are radical muslims and also some kind of evidence how you see so much people as possible jihadists.
I could as well claim that 100% christians are nutcases and 50% are potentially dangerous because of what one christian leader, Bush said. And what Bush said lead to war on Iraq and numerous deaths of muslims. Therefore he's dangerous and all christians must be put under surveillance. They are threatening our very existence. But there isn't logic in that so I don't do it. Still there's no problem for you do the same thing.
This Imam words are despicaple.
But let's not go overboard and paint the whole Islam with the same brush.
Imam's words aren't anything that I haven't heard from non-muslims before and you wouldn't like that I do with same of christians what you do with muslims. And atheists ain't usually that much better, either.
You go again and again beyond the original subject and fail to see anything that might resemblance different kind of face of Islam. You see what you want to see. I try to acknowledge the fact that danger lurks anywhere, it doesn't matter what is the religion or the eye color of the person in question.
You should go back read your messages and see into what kind of abusive rants you go about Islam. I wish it's only lack of better knowledge from you to do so but sometimes I do fear it's deliberate effort. I have started to suspect other things about you as well but let's not go there yet.
What we as westerners should do?
We should put down the imam's words and courage the muslims that oppose his teachings in order to find interpretarion of Islam that fits modern world (just like what we did christianity some years back). But putting all muslims into same basket will encourage them find interpretarion that is against us rather than against Imam's words. It becomes self-fulfilling prochecy.
If that is putting head into the sand, so be it.
EDIT:
Katheryn, the polls you highlight as evidence here don't match your opinion:
Katheryn said:
It is well known that only 10% of the Muslim people are radicalized.
Then, there is another 10% (minimum) that also approve and will cover up for the first 10%.
So, that is 200,000,000 potential radical Jihadis.
Justifying some attack doesn't mean someone is radical.
Or how many percent of americans supported War on Iraq?
Does that make them radical and violent?
I bet you don't want to go forward that line of thinking...especially since most of them are christians.
Katheryn said:
You can do the math yourself, it is much more than 10% - 51 out of 307 polled said that they agree with Muslim American violence against the American government. 23 out of 307 said that Muslim American violence against civilians was fine and dandy! 263 out of 307 said that deporting illegal aliens to disrupt terrorist attacks is wrong!
Well, there is your source.
For me these polls highlight the fact that muslims have become suspicious of american government rather than they have become radical which you claim. Of course, for us the meaning of word "radical" probably means different things. Also I would like to point out that:
Study itself said:
However, this was NOT a scientific survey, because ISNA Convention attendees who visited the Muslims For A Safe America booth are not necessarily representative of the American Muslim community as a whole.
