Detlef Richter
The Pikeman
Nice turns, our next goal should be this iland. 
AVS3: Nuclear Winter
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chenglian
Chieftain
Got it. I will play as soon as possible.
chenglian
Chieftain
Sorry to everyone for the long wait!
370BC [IHT] Well be locked into a peaceful builders game for a good while now, so infrastructure and workers are a must. We should also actively seek out new lands to settle and to gain resources (primary objective).
I am very happy to see Wonsans worker factory running.
I swap many builds to library. They are cheaper, they produce research (I notice were researching republic at max sustainable, generally I believe thats a bad idea but with libraries, this time can come down), AND more culture than temples. They are a must build for scientific civs, if only to offset the cultural superiority of the AI on higher difficulties.
350BC [1] Kaeson is founded on desert island. One more city is planned there, making it a superfishing island but not much else. Harbors should be built ASAP in the desert cities.
We qualify for the FP now. I think the FP should go either in Cheju (great potential for shields in the future) or Pyongyang (we already have some shields in the city).
Since we gave away lit before the Temple of Artemis completed, there is simply no way for us to get the GL. Itd be pointless to continue building that, but perhaps with proper prebuild management, we could snag another wonder in the Middle Ages. That or we could build that FP in Pyongyang (and fitting too, isnt it, for Korea?)
IBT Our warrior is booted to a nomans land between England and Babylon.
330BC [2] - Chonju is founded.
I spot a Babylonian city on the big northern island. It looks like we will probably only be able to grab 1, maybe 2 cities there.
310BC [3] Zzz.
290BC [4] Zzz.
270BC [5] Library rushed in Inchon, Taejon.
250BC [6] Wines are hooked up! I lower lux by 10% and raise sci by 10%, republic due in 18.
We also have trade routes to everyone except France, and apparently France has no contact with Spain.
We should buy gems from France as soon as we can, and then get rid of lux and put the funds into science.
Library rushed in Ulsan.
230BC [7] Library rushed in Pyongsong.
First galley sets off with a settler to try to grab something from the northern island.
210BC [8] I buy gems off France for Wines, 1gpt, and 33g. We finally lower lux to 0%!
IBT Hastings build the Hanging Gardens.
190BC [9] Zzz.
170BC [10] England has apparently researched Feudalism on its own. Lizzy is now building Sun Tzus.
The Dauntless (eastern curragh) sets off to the east off the coast of the Northern Island, bravely seeking new lands past the ocean!
The Seagod (western curragh) should prepare to do so next turn.
Rushed library in Paegem.
Notes:
Wonsan has been extremely valuable for us, cranking out many, many useful workers. I believe it should build 5-10 more, depending on what everyone else thinks, then begin building infra. Or we could switch it to library quickly, then back to workers.
Seoul is set to build one last settler, due to settle the hills 2E of Seoul to become a fishing village. Since we cant grab land from other civs for a LONG time, it is imperative we use every last tile we possibly can. This fishing village should provide decent tax revenues.
We should definitely fight the culture war against the AI on all border cities.
Pyongyang is put on a starvation diet, set to complete the FP in 9 (dont worry, it wont starve before the FP completes). However, we must decide whether we want it to be our FP city, or to swap it to a wonder (and risk losing production time).
I think Pyongyang is our best bet for the FP, since the location doesnt matter nearly as much as it used to.
Republic due in 10, @ -3gpt. Pay attention to finances (so we dont lose units and buildings) and to brokerage opportunities!
On suicide curraghs on large maps, yep, its definitely a long shot. But thats why theyre called gambits.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/AVS3_170BC.SAV
370BC [IHT] Well be locked into a peaceful builders game for a good while now, so infrastructure and workers are a must. We should also actively seek out new lands to settle and to gain resources (primary objective).
I am very happy to see Wonsans worker factory running.
I swap many builds to library. They are cheaper, they produce research (I notice were researching republic at max sustainable, generally I believe thats a bad idea but with libraries, this time can come down), AND more culture than temples. They are a must build for scientific civs, if only to offset the cultural superiority of the AI on higher difficulties.
350BC [1] Kaeson is founded on desert island. One more city is planned there, making it a superfishing island but not much else. Harbors should be built ASAP in the desert cities.
We qualify for the FP now. I think the FP should go either in Cheju (great potential for shields in the future) or Pyongyang (we already have some shields in the city).
Since we gave away lit before the Temple of Artemis completed, there is simply no way for us to get the GL. Itd be pointless to continue building that, but perhaps with proper prebuild management, we could snag another wonder in the Middle Ages. That or we could build that FP in Pyongyang (and fitting too, isnt it, for Korea?)
IBT Our warrior is booted to a nomans land between England and Babylon.
330BC [2] - Chonju is founded.
I spot a Babylonian city on the big northern island. It looks like we will probably only be able to grab 1, maybe 2 cities there.
310BC [3] Zzz.
290BC [4] Zzz.
270BC [5] Library rushed in Inchon, Taejon.
250BC [6] Wines are hooked up! I lower lux by 10% and raise sci by 10%, republic due in 18.
We also have trade routes to everyone except France, and apparently France has no contact with Spain.
We should buy gems from France as soon as we can, and then get rid of lux and put the funds into science.
Library rushed in Ulsan.
230BC [7] Library rushed in Pyongsong.
First galley sets off with a settler to try to grab something from the northern island.
210BC [8] I buy gems off France for Wines, 1gpt, and 33g. We finally lower lux to 0%!
IBT Hastings build the Hanging Gardens.
190BC [9] Zzz.
170BC [10] England has apparently researched Feudalism on its own. Lizzy is now building Sun Tzus.
The Dauntless (eastern curragh) sets off to the east off the coast of the Northern Island, bravely seeking new lands past the ocean!
The Seagod (western curragh) should prepare to do so next turn.
Rushed library in Paegem.
Notes:
Wonsan has been extremely valuable for us, cranking out many, many useful workers. I believe it should build 5-10 more, depending on what everyone else thinks, then begin building infra. Or we could switch it to library quickly, then back to workers.
Seoul is set to build one last settler, due to settle the hills 2E of Seoul to become a fishing village. Since we cant grab land from other civs for a LONG time, it is imperative we use every last tile we possibly can. This fishing village should provide decent tax revenues.
We should definitely fight the culture war against the AI on all border cities.
Pyongyang is put on a starvation diet, set to complete the FP in 9 (dont worry, it wont starve before the FP completes). However, we must decide whether we want it to be our FP city, or to swap it to a wonder (and risk losing production time).
I think Pyongyang is our best bet for the FP, since the location doesnt matter nearly as much as it used to.
Republic due in 10, @ -3gpt. Pay attention to finances (so we dont lose units and buildings) and to brokerage opportunities!
On suicide curraghs on large maps, yep, its definitely a long shot. But thats why theyre called gambits.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/AVS3_170BC.SAV
Detlef Richter
The Pikeman
OK, got it. I try to play over the weekend and post Monday morning.
Detlef Richter
The Pikeman
Welcome back andvruss.
Here are my turns:
150BC: Wonsan build worker, next worker
London builds the Great Library
130: nothing
110: Babylon builds temple of Arthemis
Japan builds Statue of Zeus
Seoul builds settler, next settler
Wonsan builds worker, next worker
90: Pusan builds harbor, next lib
70: Wonsan builds worker, next worker
50: nothing
30: Wonsan builds worker, next worker
10: Seoul builds settler, next settler
10AD: Pyongyang builds FP, next lib
Wonsan builds worker, next worker
England builds SunTzus
30: reached republic, next currency
I start to revolt to rep
Spain trades currency+10g for rep
France trades monarchy+10g for rep
We lost the race to the N iland, i think we should build some siucide galleys.
Here are my turns:
150BC: Wonsan build worker, next worker
London builds the Great Library
130: nothing
110: Babylon builds temple of Arthemis
Japan builds Statue of Zeus
Seoul builds settler, next settler
Wonsan builds worker, next worker
90: Pusan builds harbor, next lib
70: Wonsan builds worker, next worker
50: nothing
30: Wonsan builds worker, next worker
10: Seoul builds settler, next settler
10AD: Pyongyang builds FP, next lib
Wonsan builds worker, next worker
England builds SunTzus
30: reached republic, next currency
I start to revolt to rep
Spain trades currency+10g for rep
France trades monarchy+10g for rep
We lost the race to the N iland, i think we should build some siucide galleys.
30: Look around at our cities.
Just a tip; Hyangsan has a pop of 5. We are in aranchy, so a clown has been hired. The city now has 2 happy citizens, 1 content, and 1 sad. However, if we turn that clown into a tax collector, they city now has 2 happy and 2 sad, with us earning 2 gpt extra.
Doing that with all other cities that it applies to, we now earn 11 gpt in anarchy.
MM cities for maximum growth.
IBT: All cities with riots become peaceful
50: not much
IBT: Babylon comes asking for 23 gold....Since we havce no military and are in anarchy, i cave.
70: same
90: Found Sariwon in the middle of the northern island
IBT: Change government to republic
Lose galley
MM cities back
110: Not much
130: Disband a couple of extra warriors
Sci to max, 202, engineering in 10 with -42gpt
IBT: Manpo lib-temple
150: Same
IBT: Pusan lib-barracks
English start Sistines
Lose suicide galley
170: blah
IBT: Wonsan worker-worker
Cheju court-barracks
190: zz
IBT: Lose gems
Many cities riot
210: Luxes to 10
No lands found yet, but...
Save
Just a tip; Hyangsan has a pop of 5. We are in aranchy, so a clown has been hired. The city now has 2 happy citizens, 1 content, and 1 sad. However, if we turn that clown into a tax collector, they city now has 2 happy and 2 sad, with us earning 2 gpt extra.
Doing that with all other cities that it applies to, we now earn 11 gpt in anarchy.
MM cities for maximum growth.
IBT: All cities with riots become peaceful
50: not much
IBT: Babylon comes asking for 23 gold....Since we havce no military and are in anarchy, i cave.
70: same
90: Found Sariwon in the middle of the northern island
IBT: Change government to republic
Lose galley
MM cities back
110: Not much
130: Disband a couple of extra warriors
Sci to max, 202, engineering in 10 with -42gpt
IBT: Manpo lib-temple
150: Same
IBT: Pusan lib-barracks
English start Sistines
Lose suicide galley
170: blah
IBT: Wonsan worker-worker
Cheju court-barracks
190: zz
IBT: Lose gems
Many cities riot
210: Luxes to 10
No lands found yet, but...
Save
210AD [Preturn]: Check what's going on. Most of our cities are rioting...
Raise luxtax to 20% and boot all entertainers and do some MMing.
IBT: Riots end everywhere.
English start Knights Templar.
230AD [1]: I think we have enough workers for now, we need infrastructure and military.
Switch Wonsan from worker to library. We won't want any flips...
Change Hyangsan from granary to temple.
IBT: Namp'o court > library.
250AD [2]:
IBT: Seould temple > library.
Hyangsan temple > library.
260AD [3]:
IBT: P'yongyang temple > library.
Inch'on temple > pike.
Babylonia starts Knights templar.
270AD [4]: MMing...
IBT: Wonsan library > temple.
Pusan rax > pike.
Sariwon warrior > library.
280AD [5]:
IBT: Seoul library > market.
Cheju rax > library.
Babylonians start Sistine.
290AD [6]:
300AD [7]:
IBT: Hyangsan lib > market.
Pyongsong temple > rax.
Taejon harbor > temple.
Sariwon flips to England...
310AD [8]:
IBT: P'yongyang library > market.
Pusan pike > pike.
320AD [9]:
IBT: Lizzy demands iron. I cave, we have no military.
Namp'o library > market.
Paegam temple > rax.
Chonju riots.
Chonju harbor > library.
330AD [10]:
BTW, is this a large map? If so, I might need to drop off because my comp won't run over standard size maps well after mid - middle ages and I noticed a longer waiting than what I'm used to ona standard map...
Raise luxtax to 20% and boot all entertainers and do some MMing.
IBT: Riots end everywhere.
English start Knights Templar.
230AD [1]: I think we have enough workers for now, we need infrastructure and military.
Switch Wonsan from worker to library. We won't want any flips...
Change Hyangsan from granary to temple.
IBT: Namp'o court > library.
250AD [2]:
IBT: Seould temple > library.
Hyangsan temple > library.
260AD [3]:
IBT: P'yongyang temple > library.
Inch'on temple > pike.
Babylonia starts Knights templar.
270AD [4]: MMing...
IBT: Wonsan library > temple.
Pusan rax > pike.
Sariwon warrior > library.
280AD [5]:
IBT: Seoul library > market.
Cheju rax > library.
Babylonians start Sistine.
290AD [6]:
300AD [7]:
IBT: Hyangsan lib > market.
Pyongsong temple > rax.
Taejon harbor > temple.
Sariwon flips to England...
310AD [8]:
IBT: P'yongyang library > market.
Pusan pike > pike.
320AD [9]:
IBT: Lizzy demands iron. I cave, we have no military.
Namp'o library > market.
Paegam temple > rax.
Chonju riots.
Chonju harbor > library.
330AD [10]:
BTW, is this a large map? If so, I might need to drop off because my comp won't run over standard size maps well after mid - middle ages and I noticed a longer waiting than what I'm used to ona standard map...
SuperFurry
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got it, will hopefully get to it today... otherwise tomorrow.
Detlef Richter
The Pikeman
If no one else say 'got it', i can play it tomorrow.
Detlef Richter
The Pikeman
OK, 'got it'. I post tomorrow morning. Three missing members, thats heavy.
Detlef Richter
The Pikeman
Here we go:
340AD: we need some suicide galleys
Cheju builds lib, next market
Ulsan builds court, next market
traded with Spain: monotheism <-> wine+800g+22gpt
350: Seoul builds market, next pike
Wonsan builds temple, next court
Pusan builds pike, next galley
Inch'on builds pike, next court
360: Manp'o builds temple, next court
tradeed with France: chivalry <-> 640g+27gpt
370: Seoul builds pike, next pike
380: Pusan builds galley, next galley
Pyongsong builds barracks, next pike
changed Seoul to 'Knights Templar'
390: nothing
400: nothing
410: Pusan builds galley, next galley
Babylon build 'Knights Templar' (we lost the race)
changed Seoul to cathedral
traded with England: engeneering <-> 8gpt+470g
420: Paegam builds barracks, next court
430: Wonsan builds court, next market
Hyangsan builds market, next court
Pyongsong builds pike, next pike
Taejon builds temple, next barracks
Technical, we are ways behind. Let us road all workable tiles and build courts and markets to get cash,cash,cash.
340AD: we need some suicide galleys
Cheju builds lib, next market
Ulsan builds court, next market
traded with Spain: monotheism <-> wine+800g+22gpt
350: Seoul builds market, next pike
Wonsan builds temple, next court
Pusan builds pike, next galley
Inch'on builds pike, next court
360: Manp'o builds temple, next court
tradeed with France: chivalry <-> 640g+27gpt
370: Seoul builds pike, next pike
380: Pusan builds galley, next galley
Pyongsong builds barracks, next pike
changed Seoul to 'Knights Templar'
390: nothing
400: nothing
410: Pusan builds galley, next galley
Babylon build 'Knights Templar' (we lost the race)
changed Seoul to cathedral
traded with England: engeneering <-> 8gpt+470g
420: Paegam builds barracks, next court
430: Wonsan builds court, next market
Hyangsan builds market, next court
Pyongsong builds pike, next pike
Taejon builds temple, next barracks
Technical, we are ways behind. Let us road all workable tiles and build courts and markets to get cash,cash,cash.
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