AVS3: Nuclear Winter

Once nukes becomes available, i suggest triggering golden age (untill then, never use hwach'a to bomb redlined units, and you wont trigger it).

In golden age almost all cities will be able to build tactical nukes in 2,3 or 4 turns.

In addition. after nuking the capitals, I also suggest nuking the uranium and aluminium supplies of all modern age civs :)

The following civs has declared war on us so far:
babylon,france,persia,aztecs.. so only 4 nukes required so far after rules
 
But, the rest of the world will declare after we launch. Would it be an exploit or considered out of game context to declare war on these 4, sign alliances around the table and embargos, and then nuke, causing the rest of the world to declare on us?
 
I dont know.. its your rules.. :D

I would interpret them as we are allowed to do trade embargos, but no alliances or MPPs untill after we have launched nukes on the capitals of all civs that has declared on us :lol:

(meaning pretty much every civ will declare on us, except perhaps england depending on who decide to fight them before we strike :) )
 
Gyathaar said:
sell radio to england for horses, WM, 264gold and 251gpt
:wow: they would only give me horses, WM and some gold for radio. Maybe the war made them change their tune.

Gyathaar said:
We have aluminium in the mountains inside our wall.
Awesome :rockon:

Gyathaar said:
are aztecs suicidal? )
Aye :lol: they’re just asking for it and I totally respect their ability to last as long, it’ll be fun nuking them.

Gyathaar said:
a) either use our settler and build a town south of the oil in english territory by inch'on.

Yeah, that was the idea I had in mind. I was planning to shove that settler in once the Babs took Reading, guess they never did :(

:goodjob: cracking set of turns to make up for my mistakes. I can’t think of anyone who wouldn’t want a piece of this game now. Just to remind myself…… we can’t attack enemy cities until we nuke them? Or just once we declare on them by nuking their capital?
 
Preturn: Wake settler and send south of oil. Send a couple of workers there, and use unnecessary troop to garrison. Disband

IBT: Babylon and Aztec sign trade embargo vs us
Disater almost!
French penetrate our lines in 2 places. 1 was west of Ulsan, around 5 French units there and Ulsan undefended. More seriously, the French took out one of barricades SW of Ulsan. If the French had a cav left, Ulsan wouldve been razed.
Wonsan TOW-TOW
Pusan nuke sub-nuke sub
Cheju TOW-TOW
Hysang arty-arty

1480: Kill a french nuke sub
Kill all intruding french units
Rush temple in Henju

IBT: India and Aztecs sign alliance vs England
America and France sign a MA vs us :(
Spot Perisan transports and escorts
China and France sign alliance vs us now ! :( :(
Lose coal
OUr line at Man'po barely holds
Haeju temple-lib

1485: Investigae Rouen. Manhattens in 3.
Emabrgo with Babylon against China
embargo against persia, china, france and babylon with england
Join native workers into lowly populated cities to decrease unit cost

IBT: France attacks up with mayn bombers, tanks and TOW. French nvnal armada (10+ units including transports and carriers), Perisan fleet appears, and mPersians drop off around 8 various units
Spain and Babylon sign alliance vs England
Begin Jet Fighters. Do they onl attempt to shoot down plaes that attack the city, or squares around it as well.
I must go now, unfortuneately, for around 3 hours. Will complete when I come back. Is 5 turns per rortation good for now on?
 
1490 cont: Phew I am lucky! Persia dropped off 6 marines next to Suwon instead of attacking the city from sea with was guarded by 1 TOW.
Annilinhate 2 frigates and a transoprt in Persian fllet #1. 3 destroyers and a transport are 2 turns away from our mainland
I like this picking out targets for nuke subs :D. I attack a stack of 2 clads, 2 destroyers, a cruiser and a transport, and kill the French transport
Kill a transport in a stack of 2 destroyers

Rush lib in haeju

IBT: Japan and China sign MPP
Japan and China sign MPP vs us
Lose ivory and dyes
Japan and China sign alliance vs England

Another stack of 3 destroyers and a Persian tranport appear
Our defensive line barely holds
Cycle trough cities after Seoul riots

1495: Pick off another transport ina stack of 3 destroyers
Lose a sub attacking a carrier
MM cities due to luxury loss

IBT: Spain declares war on France
Babylon and Persia sign embargo vs us
French carrier retreats due to being injured
Persia lands 3 marines

1500: Kill a bunch of destroyers, naval combat here is rather fun! :)
Kill Persian marines
Kill Frnech invading stack of around 6 units, and a french ironclad

Babylon have space Flight. Doubtful for all our gold, 21302 and 1119gpt.
I attempt a careful steal, and no success :(. Agent isnt detected though. No one who is at war with us will talk either. Next player be sure to try another steal later.
 
Save

War weariness is at 25%. Since we shall be in war for a while, a revolution think would be necssary (or maybe not). If there would be, would fascism or communism beb better in our situation? Im barely leaning towards communism but...
 
once we start nuking people, we can't afford to be in Republic and I'd really like to be in a warmongering government before the nukes start falling. I don't want to drop a nuke on everyone then have to wait 6 turns whilst we get our stuff together.

I won't say got it until we've got a bit more discussion on the subject, and also what aim's we should be going for

edit:....... that is....... if it is my turn, from my understanding it is, but I'm not sure
 
with sixtine there should be no problem in running a war in republic, but would have to put lux way high up...
personally I prefer cash rushing over pop-rushing, so would prefer monarchy over fascism, and our land isnt big enough for communism to be effective.
 
Gyathaar said:
with sixtine there should be no problem in running a war in republic, but would have to put lux way high up...
personally I prefer cash rushing over pop-rushing, so would prefer monarchy over fascism, and our land isnt big enough for communism to be effective.

Not big enough at the moment but... :D.
 
so go for Monarchy? this should hurt our gpt but we already have alot in the bank so it shouldn't be noticable

playing now, please give me any comments you may have, don't want another balls up like Hoovers

edit: one more thing, Andvruss mentioned something earlier about going to 5 turns a go, are we implementing that now?

Andvruss said:
Is 5 turns per rortation good for now on?
 
When I started playing at the higher levels I was always a monarchy and stayed there, now I tend to go to Republic then Communism if I need to. If memory serves me correctly WW is at 35%, that'll probably sky rocket when we go AW on the world, so I'd quite fancy changing governments, but if the group wish to simply raise lux then I'll do that

sorry for taking so long to post the turns, I've played them, just not been on my computer long enough to put the save up. I'll do it when I get home
 
Inherited Turn-
Have a look about, nothing to do or anything. We’re at war with pretty much all the major powers.

IBT- Russia and France sign an alliance against Spain.

French bomb two squares in particular, one in the south outside Paegam and one in the north outside Manp’o, I wonder whats so particular about those two squares? They also move 2 Inf and 1 TOW into our territory near Wonsan.

Russians offer me a MPP for the paltry sum of 228gpt :lol: erm…. No.

Namp’o riots, sorry guys, didn’t see it. It looked fine before I pressed enter :hmm:

1505AD(1)
Pusan Nuke sub > Nuke sub
Ulsan tank > tank
Pyongsong Jet Fighter > Jet Fighter
Paegam tank > tank

Move the artillery from Suwon to the front at Paegam, that seems to be the main focal point for French aggression. We need some form of air support, be it from Jet’s or Mobile SAM’s, its all fine and good throwing hundreds of units at the front to defend but the bomber will always get through and we’ll pay for it.

The urge to attack is overpowering :lol: I’m certain I could take France’s border cities with us, the terrains’s perfect for it, plains all the way to Paris.

With some artillery I have left I bombard the mini French stack and attack it with tanks, no leaders unfortunately, that would have been awesome.

Notice the Chinese have a city on our continent, Valencia, how odd.

Bump up luxuries another 10% to ensure that WW isn’t a problem. We’re still pulling in just under 1k gpt.

Sink a lone Persian transport outside Suwon. Nuke subs rock!!

IBT- China and France sign an alliance against Spain.

Loose two units in the south but the line holds, just.

4 French infantry enter our lands near Ulsan, 2 elites. Wonder where they got them from?

A propaganda campaign in Inch’on has upset its citizens :hmm:

Rouen(France) completes Manhatten Project The games begin


1510AD(2)
Get the UN message, say no, obviously

Seoul tank > mob SAM
P’yongyang Nuke sub > Nuke Sub
Wosan tank > tank
Cheju tank > tank
Hyangsan tank > TOW

Bombard the 5 French units using the Hwach'a (what’s the plural of that??) Kill them with tanks but still no leader :( loose a tank.

Bombard a French Ironclad and sink it with a Nuke Sub.

Take troops from the northern front to the southern, the French almost broke through last time and if I don’t do anything then they will this time round, beside the Babylonians seem to be quite peaceful at the moment.

IBT- Spain asks to trade WM. Get 2 gold for the privilege.

A Persia Destroyer sinks one of our Nuke Subs.

Babylon and India sign a MPP> Don’t think we’re at war with either so that shouldn’t affect us.

French break through at one point in the south. They completely bypass the square they’ve been attacking since my turns started and killed an infantry just north of it. No follow up though, barricades would have stopped them anyway. Take out a French Bomber.

1515AD(3)
Seoul Mobile SAM > Mob SAM
Ulsan Tank > TOW
Inch’on Tank > Tank
Manp’o TOW > TOW

Production in Taejon sabotaged :hmm:

Take out 3 French tanks to reform the line and remove any close threats.

Notice that the English are getting pretty much chewed up by the English. They’ve taken York and are now only a stone throw from London.

Finish the turn by half inching a technology off of the Babylonians. Paniced for a bit as my computer slowed down a bit, but everything worked out. We can now build nukes. Seoul, Cheju, Ulsan, Hyangsan and Paegam to Tactical Nukes.

IBT- Japanese and Spanish declare war on me……. I don’t know how that’ll affect us, don’t think it will.

Aztecs declare on Russia. Will someone just take them out? Please.

America and China declare on England.

Russia and China sign an alliance against us. Only problem is that the war with Russia looses our Spice.

French attack the line and break through again, killing 2 Inf, 1 TOW and a tank, taking 4 artillery, I’ll get them back next turn. The bombers are really starting to hurt

Russia and America sign an alliance against England.

Babylon move 2 TOW’s into our territory next to our oil city :hmm:

1520AD(4)
Seoul and Suwon riots as a result of loss of Spice

Pyongsong Jet > TOW

Raise lux to 30%.

Take out 3 French tanks, recapture the 4 artillery. Still no leaders.

IBT- Notice a Japanese fleet……

Babylon and Spain sign a trade embargo against us, better that than anything else.

England offer a MPP, refused.

Babylon and France sign an embargo against us, hmmmmm

France loose 5 tanks to 1 Infantry in the mountains. Inf obviously promotes. Notice a French fleet outside Pusan and 3 French Infantry threaten Cheju.
Babylon is on the move. I see a huge movement near our oil city. About 5 or 6 artillery pieces guarded in true AI fashion by 2 units. I actually saw a spearman. First time I’ve ever seen the AI use artillery in anything other than a city role. I can only assume they’re heading for Reading.

Babylong declare on China!! That should be an interesting fight.

China begin work on SETI

Aztecs declare on China :rolleye:

1525AD(5)
Wosan Tank > Tank
Manp’o art > TOW

Sink the French transport.

While taking out some units along the French border I (finally) gain a leader!!! Awesome, I’ll leave it to the next player to decide what to do with it. Kill 3 tanks, 4 Inf and 1 TOW

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/AVS3-1525AD.SAV

Sorry really tired so can't comment much. The French line is holding, but the bombers are hurting, I'm worried about our border with Babylon, might be too thinly held. We're building nukes, the subs are standing by. If I've messed up somewhere then please tell me, otherwise, night.

Steviejay
 
Will get it when I get home tonight :)

Amazing how long the aztecs has lasted when they have been this aggressive.. are they still in ancient ages btw? :lol:
 
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