BirdNES: 1500 AD: A New World

[Luckymoose]

Technically the Dutch War of Independence isn't over. We have not signed any form of treaty. The combat has merely ceased for the time being.

 

[Terrance888]

Dutch! WE Will be back after we take care of por..... oops!

 

[jeps]

dont I wish.

If you have learned a joke, cool.

If not, you will regret it.

 

[Luckymoose]

Dutch! WE Will be back after we take care of por..... oops!

Unlikely. By the time you come back. I will be stronger than you are.

 

[jeps]

If he does what he is talkign about, there might be a Lisbon-led Iberian Union before he comes back.

 

[~Darkening~]

If he does what he is talkign about, there might be a Lisbon-led Iberian Union before he comes back.

I think Bird said something about not letting people take advanatge of him . Also, I daresay someone won't be happy .

 

[Birdjaguar]

I think Bird said something about not letting people take advanatge of him .

Yes, but...as Nuclear Kid knows, I do have ways of dealing with players who don't think about what they are doing.

 

[alex994]

OOC: But how can he think... I don't think children at that age have mastered "logic" yet... >_<

 

[Birdjaguar]

OOC: But how can he think... I don't think children at that age have mastered "logic" yet... >_<

On that note, you might not be aware that the "judgement" centers of the brain don't fully mature until the mid twenties.

 

[fantasmo]

Yes, but...as Nuclear Kid knows, I do have ways of dealing with players who don't think about what they are doing.

I never think about what I do. You've yet to deal with me at all.

 

[~Darkening~]

Yes, but...as Nuclear Kid knows, I do have ways of dealing with players who don't think about what they are doing.

There's a difference in turning over control of Spain and in making a dumb move. The peace offer with Calusa- accepting that was a dumb move. You should (<-key word, just making clear it's my opinion ) allow him to make peace if he wishes it. Turning over control of your country (whether voluntary or not).....has no excuse .

I never think about what I do. You've yet to deal with me at all.

I think he'll leave this one to others .

 

[Swissempire]

On that note, you might not be aware that the "judgement" centers of the brain don't fully mature until the mid twenties.

And you might not be aware that that is entirely untrue.

One of the most renowned social scientists of the mid 20th Century found that Formal Operational Thinking is reached by the age of 13-14 on average, with many attaining it by 11 or 12. If you haven't acheived it by age 15, you'll likely never reach that cognitive status. The majority of people don't have it, and it decreases over time. 50-60 year olds score the same as young adults.

Harvard Professor and Moral Development pioneer Lawrence Kohlberg found that Conventional Reasoning, the level of reasoning ability that is standard and normal, is reached by age 11.

In fact, some of the most prominent and important geniuses in the intelligence testing field have found that raw intelligence may peak around 14-15 years old. They both found this seperately, which is what is most interesting.

Of course though this doesn't fit with our current soceital structure at all. So we substitute unscientific "brain scans" that amount to nothing more than Phrenology for Kids

But since Charles is 10.......

 

[jeps]

not anymore

Date of Birth:
August 15, 1996
Age:
11

 

[Birdjaguar]

Nothing wrong with Piaget, but science does move on....

Using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scanners to probe the brains of healthy teenagers and young adults, Elizabeth R. Sowell of the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) and her colleagues reported in 1999 that myelin, the fatty tissue around nerve fibers that fosters transmission of electrical signals, accumulates especially slowly in the frontal lobe.

The late phase of myelin formation, occurring in teenagers, provides a neural basis for assuming that teens are less blameworthy for criminal acts that adults are, Gur says. There's no way to say whether, for example, an individual 17-year-old possesses a fully mature brain. But the biological age of maturity generally falls around age 21 or 22, in Gur's view.

Although 18 years old represents an arbitrary cutoff age for receiving a capital sentence, it's preferable to 17, according to Gur.

"These brain data create reasonable doubt that a teenager can be held culpable for a crime to the same extent that an adult is," agrees neuroscientist J. Anthony Movshon of New York University.

Fear factor

Abigail A. Baird of Dartmouth College in Hanover, N.H., also suspects that delayed neural development undermines teens' judgment in ways that affect their legal standing. "There's no reason to say adulthood happens at age 18," Baird says. Unlike Gur, however, she estimates that the brain achieves maturity at age 25 or 26.

There are still lots of unanswered questions, but...

www.bocyf.org/steinberg_presentation.pdf
www.abanet.org/crimjust/juvjus/Adolescence.pdf
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20040508/bob9.asp

 

[Luckymoose]

Omg Charles has evolved into a superior being! All hell has broken lose. I surrender.

 

[Swissempire]

Because this thread is totally the place for it, I'd still like to voice my objections to MRI Brain Scanning as a method of determining competence and development, but if thats the game you want to play

The National Institutes of Health found that 11-12 is the age where you reach adult-level development in your brain. Using your "MRI scans". This study was conducted not in the way that the others were, funded by a corporation or college to see if the current assumptions could be made to match up with the sciences.

All these Brain Scans measure against the assumption that Middle Age is the ideal age for humanity, regardless of historical life expectancy or biological set up. The defined developed brain though is when the extra synapses have died off and your continuing ability to accept and absorb new information decreases. Jay Giedd, author of a National Institutes of Health study that showed that risk inhibition isn't "fully formed" in brains under 25 conceded that there is no proven correlation between brain scans and behavior. Jay Giedd also being one of the people working with Steinberg in the presentation you linked. Correlation does not equal causation. Basic rule.

But this is all off topic

 

[explosivesruber]

MRI Bran Scanning

...nice

 

[Symphony D.]

All these Brain Scans measure against the assumption that Middle Age is the ideal age for humanity, regardless of historical life expectancy or biological set up. The defined developed brain though is when the extra synapses have died off and your continuing ability to accept and absorb new information decreases.

Decloak: Because ability to "absorb new information" means much when you have vastly less of it. There's a reason there's "knowledge" and there's "wisdom" you know. Informed decision making is mostly an aggregate of experience--just because you can process something or adapt doesn't mean much if you don't know how to.

 

[Riskt8ker]

Bird, quit making excuses for my kids.........

 

[silver 2039]

I hate kids. Bloody kids. I'm never going to have any, it would spare the world my evil spawn, must make myself impotent somehow....*takes out rusty spoon*