Black Lives Don't Matter

[Lexicus]

Yep. He tried to make a contrarian title but instead he just called it what he actually thinks about black people.

It's funny because I was going to say thread title is a rare moment of clarity for the right.

While there is no statistics to back it up, a little common sense is called for. As even stated in the link you posted, it postulated that there are probably many different causes. But I do believe that Cops being more worried about being accused of improper response can affect performance.

Yeah sure, because cops can only do their jobs if they're able to unaccountably murder citizens.

 

[Ryika]

How are potatoes German?

"Kartoffel" is a slur used by second/third-generation immigrants against German kids. Was often used in rap music in the past.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

"Kartoffel" is a slur used by second/third-generation immigrants against German kids. Was often used in rap music in the past.

Only by Turks.
Don't lump us second generation immigrants together like a Nazi.

 

[warpus]

OP, you know how I feel about racism.. I'm putting this down to ignorance more than anything, but uhm... surely there's a better way to broach this subject. Mind you, we all know how OP operates, he posts and runs away, so we can hardly expect any sort of intelligent discussion to begin with

 

[Ryika]

Only by Turks.
Don't lump us second generation immigrants together like a Nazi.

Mostly Turks yeah, but it's used by other immigrants.

Also, I'm white, for me everybody who looks eastern-ish is a Turk.
Everyone who doesn't is just German.

Privilege.

 

[emzie]

OP, you know how I feel about racism.. I'm putting this down to ignorance more than anything, but uhm... surely there's a better way to broach this subject. Mind you, we all know how OP operates, he posts and runs away, so we can hardly expect any sort of intelligent discussion to begin with

Oh, good, I'm glad this has been noticed by other people. It's hard to take cowards seriously.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Mostly Turks yeah, but it's used by other immigrants.

Also, I'm white, for me everybody who looks eastern-ish is a Turk.
Everyone who doesn't is just German.

Privilege.

What about Westerners like Moroccans ?

 

[Ryika]

Thank you, white person from Australia, for sharing your perspective of what it means to be African American.

And with (a lot more) NSFW-language:

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What about Westerners like Moroccans ?

Obviously immigrants.

Moderator Action: The videos with the synonym for feces need to go in the spoiler too. I went ahead and put them there.

 

[useless]

Congratulations; you've found black people who dislike BLM, so what?

 

[Ryika]

Congratulations; you've found black people who dislike BLM, so what?

They obviously know better what is going on than contre, who is a white kid.

 

[W|M]

You found five black people who don't like BLM.

Here's more than five who do like BLM:

 

[Ryika]

You found five black people who don't like BLM.

Here's more than five who do like BLM:

Here's a poll that says that only 31% of African Americans prefer BlackLivesMatter over AllLivesMatter:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_2015/black_lives_matter_or_all_lives_matter

Let's see how long we can keep this exchange of nonsensical material going!

 

[warpus]

If the initial complaint was "white people from Australia's opinions on this can't matter too much, they're too far removed from the situation", then providing similar opinions from African-Americans who live in America seems proper.

What's wrong with it?

 

[Joecoolyo]

Oh, good, I'm glad this has been noticed by other people. It's hard to take cowards seriously.

Hey, don't call it cowardice, that's incredibly mean-spirited. Not everyone likes to get into the rough-and-tumble of forum fights or politics.

Now I can't speak for Classical, nor do I speak for his views (which I don't agree on one bit!). However, there is nothing wrong with posting something and then leaving the discussion. I end up doing this a lot because of social phobia. I'll post my feelings regarding something and then fear ridicule from the responses. I end up regretting posting in the first place, but you can't take back posts (outside of visiting the thread and deleting them after the fact, which I also don't like to do). So I don't go back into the thread, hope people forget, and move on.

Calling it cowardice only encourages people like me not to post. If we don't conform then we can expect the full weight of the herd to come down on us. Not everyone can handle that, nor likes to handle that.

It's better to encourage more views rather than to shunt them away in favor of an echo-chamber. And you're not going to do that by creating a combative environment, where to discuss is war, and not discussing is tantamount to desertion.

 

[Ryika]

Hey, don't call it cowardice, that's incredibly mean-spirited. Not everyone likes to get into the rough-and-tumble of forum fights or politics.

Now I can't speak for Classical, nor do I speak for his views (which I don't agree on one bit!). However, there is nothing wrong with posting something and then leaving the discussion. I end up doing this a lot because of social phobia. I'll post my feelings regarding something and then fear ridicule from the responses. I end up regretting posting in the first place, but you can't take back posts (outside of visiting the thread and deleting them after the fact, which I also don't like to do). So I don't go back into the thread, hope people forget, and move on.

Calling it cowardice only encourages people like me not to post. If we don't conform then we can expect the full weight of the herd to come down on us. Not everyone can handle that, nor likes to handle that.

It's better to encourage more views rather than to shunt them away in favor of an echo-chamber. And you're not going to do that by creating a combative environment, where to discuss is war, and not discussing is tantamount to desertion.

Well, but even in that situation it is indeed cowardice. You're in fear of the reactions that you might be getting after going ahead and posting your own opinion.

That should of course not keep you from posting, but that's not the fault of other posters, it's your incorrect handling of the situation. Take your time to think about the post before you create it, then take some more time before you actually post it... and if you still end up regretting to ever post it don't duck away from it but instead read every single word of it, realize that nothing bad happens aside from the negative feelings and after doing that a few times the negative feelings will go away as well.

 

[_random_]

Hey, don't call it cowardice, that's incredibly mean-spirited. Not everyone likes to get into the rough-and-tumble of forum fights or politics.

Now I can't speak for Classical, nor do I speak for his views (which I don't agree on one bit!). However, there is nothing wrong with posting something and then leaving the discussion. I end up doing this a lot because of social phobia. I'll post my feelings regarding something and then fear ridicule from the responses. I end up regretting posting in the first place, but you can't take back posts (outside of visiting the thread and deleting them after the fact, which I also don't like to do). So I don't go back into the thread, hope people forget, and move on.

Calling it cowardice only encourages people like me not to post. If we don't conform then we can expect the full weight of the herd to come down on us. Not everyone can handle that, nor likes to handle that.

It's better to encourage more views rather than to shunt them away in favor of an echo-chamber. And you're not going to do that by creating a combative environment, where to discuss is war, and not discussing is tantamount to desertion.

That's all well and good, but you're not posting anything this blatantly inflammatory.

 

[Lexicus]

That should of course not keep you from posting, but that's not the fault of other posters, it's your incorrect handling of the situation.

Not everyone has the same priorities or thought processes as you. You may say you disagree with his rationale or whatever but that doesn't make it "incorrect."

 

[warpus]

I'll post my feelings regarding something and then fear ridicule from the responses. I end up regretting posting in the first place, but you can't take back posts (outside of visiting the thread and deleting them after the fact, which I also don't like to do). So I don't go back into the thread, hope people forget, and move on.

Yeah, but do you ever start a thread, make the first post, and don't take any interest in it at all over the next couple days, or ever? I am a busy guy, I will often make a post and then forget about it, or yeah, there is anxiety sometimes, I admit it, but if I start a thread, it's sort of impolite of me to post the opening post and then leave and never show my face again, so I don't do that. That makes sense, right?

 

[Vectors]

Wouldn't the responsible thing to do if a cop sees youth fight be to ask them what is going on and attempting conflict resolution?

 

[Ryika]

Not everyone has the same priorities or thought processes as you. You may say you disagree with his rationale or whatever but that doesn't make it "incorrect."

It's incorrect because it reinforces the anxiety. Every time you feel like you've made a mistake and (are able to) duck away from the consequences it registers in your brain as if what you've done (creating a post that could cause backlash) was in fact a really bad thing that you needed to hide from - and as if your response (ducking away and hiding) was in fact the right decision.

It is objectively 'incorrect' behavior as long as we assume that overcoming Social Anxiety is an objectively good thing for the person in question.