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School defends slavery booklet
Critic says text is 'window dressing'

By T. KEUNG HUI, Staff Writer

Students at one of the area's largest Christian schools are reading a controversial booklet that critics say whitewashes Southern slavery with its view that slaves lived "a life of plenty, of simple pleasures."

Leaders at Cary Christian School say they are not condoning slavery by using "Southern Slavery, As It Was," a booklet that attempts to provide a biblical justification for slavery and asserts that slaves weren't treated as badly as people think.

Principal Larry Stephenson said the school is only exposing students to different ideas, such as how the South justified slavery. He said the booklet is used because it is hard to find writings that are both sympathetic to the South and explore what the Bible says about slavery.

"You can have two different sides, a Northern perspective and a Southern perspective," he said.

The booklet isn't the only connection its two co-authors have with the school.

One of the authors, Douglas Wilson, a pastor in Moscow, Idaho, wrote a book on classical education upon which the school bases its philosophy. Wilson's Association of Classical and Christian Schools accredited Cary Christian, and he is scheduled to speak at the school's graduation in May.

Some school leaders, including Stephenson, founded Christ Church in Cary, which is affiliated with Wilson's Idaho church.

The booklet's other author, Steve Wilkins, is a member of the board of directors of the Alabama-based League of the South. That is classified as a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based civil rights group.

"Doug Wilson and Steve Wilkins have essentially constructed the ruling theology of the neo-Confederate movement," said Mark Potok, editor of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report.

Potok said people who argue that the South should secede again have latched onto the writings of Wilson and Wilkins, which portray the Confederacy as the last true Christian civilization.

At a time when a number of Triangle Christian schools have lost enrollment and even closed, Cary Christian has seen rapid growth since it opened in 1996.

The school has 623 students in kindergarten through 12th grade. With a relatively low tuition -- up to $5,000 -- it has attracted families from 55 churches. At least one parent must be a regular attendee of a church.

Classical education

Stephenson said the school's growth is based on parental desire for a classical education founded on the basics of phonics, grammar, logic and rhetoric. Students read many classics, such as the writings of Plato and Socrates.

"As a classical Christian school, we think it's important for our students to be able to think and not be slanted to a particular position," Stephenson said. "We want them to think for themselves."

Until two years ago, Stephenson said, middle school students also had read excerpts from "Southern Slavery." He said the booklet was a counterpoint to "Uncle Tom's Cabin," which he said portrayed all Southern whites as treating their slaves badly.

Once the Civil War was no longer taught in middle school, Stephenson said, Cary Christian stopped using the booklet in those grades.

But the 43-page booklet is still read in its entirety by ninth-graders when they study the Civil War. Stephenson said the booklet can help students formulate arguments when taking the pro-Southern side in debates.

"A student may be assigned an opinion they may not agree with, so they will understand both sides," Stephenson said.

Angela Kennedy, whose daughters have attended Cary Christian since 1996, said all the booklet does is help students learn about both sides so that they have a basis to form their own opinions. She pointed out that the students also read Abraham Lincoln's speeches.

"They really do get both sides of the story," Kennedy said. "In public schools, all they get is one side of the story. That's not education. That's indoctrination."

Stephenson said the booklet is discussed for two days. Even as they read the booklet, he said, students are told slavery was wrong.

"Slavery is wrong," Stephenson said. "That's not debatable about slavery. The South was wrong about the slave trade."

Parent's support

Marcus Ranch, who has three daughters at Cary Christian, said he has no problem with the school using the booklet. He said it offers an accurate portrayal that is overlooked of how many slaves were treated kindly by their owners.

"That book is fine," Ranch said. "It does a good job with that particular perspective."

But Potok questioned how the school can use a booklet that asserts that slavery "was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence."

"What these men have written is an apology for slavery," he said. "They're putting window dressing on an abhorrent institution."

Potok also blasted the booklet, which was published in 1996, for plagiarizing a previous work. The booklet has received criticism from a number of historians.

Wilson declined to comment and referred questions to his assistant, Mike Lawyer. Lawyer said the booklet has been pulled from publication because of faulty footnotes and citation errors.

Lawyer said he thinks few schools use the booklet, which is published by a company owned by Wilson's Idaho church.

But Lawyer said the authors stand by their central belief that the Civil War didn't have to happen and that slavery would have ended on its own.

"The Southern Poverty Law Center is just trying to make money out of this," Lawyer said. "The Southern Poverty Law Center is totally off base to think in any way that the book is neo-Confederate."

But the use of the booklet is leaving some area pastors concerned that it could promote intolerance.

"If there's any attempt to divide us, it's totally un-Christian," said Richard Dial, pastor of Cary Church of God.

Mike Woods, administrator of Wake Christian Academy, said he couldn't see his school using "Southern Slavery, As it Was," especially with younger students.

"It's so easy for some of them to take something they read and assume you're in favor of it," he said.

'SOUTHERN SLAVERY, AS IT WAS'

Here are some excerpts from the booklet:

* "To say the least, it is strange that the thing the Bible condemns (slave-trading) brings very little opprobrium upon the North, yet that which the Bible allows (slave-ownership) has brought down all manner of condemnation upon the South." (page 22)

* "As we have already mentioned, the 'peculiar institution' of slavery was not perfect or sinless, but the reality was a far cry from the horrific descriptions given to us in modern histories." (page 22)

* "Slavery as it existed in the South was not an adversarial relationship with pervasive racial animosity. Because of its dominantly patriarchal character, it was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence." (page 24)

* "There has never been a multi-racial society which has existed with such mutual intimacy and harmony in the history of the world." (page 24)

* "Slave life was to them a life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care." (page 25)

* "But many Southern blacks supported the South because of long established bonds of affection and trust that had been forged over generations with their white masters and friends." (page 27)

* "Nearly every slave in the South enjoyed a higher standard of living than the poor whites of the South -- and had a much easier existence." (page 30)

Any questions?
 
Yes, do they have books claiming the Nazis were good as well? I mean, you gotta have both perspectives, right?
Do they watch 'Triumph des Willens' and the 'Wochenschau'? Do they read 'Mein Kampf' and list anti-Jewish propaganda?





:rolleyes:
 
Does that school present "both sides of the issue" for the Theory of Evolution vs Creationism, or for Choice vs Genetic/Developmental origins of homosexuality? I'm all for presenting both sides of current debate topics and teaching critical thinking, but I suspect that they're only teaching critical thinking when it is directed at current evangelical Christian whipping-posts.
 
IglooDude said:
Does that school present "both sides of the issue" for the Theory of Evolution vs Creationism, or for Choice vs Genetic/Developmental origins of homosexuality? I'm all for presenting both sides of current debate topics and teaching critical thinking, but I suspect that they're only teaching critical thinking when it is directed at current evangelical Christian whipping-posts.

the Creationism view is almost as lunatic as the pro-Nazi or 'slaves lives nice lives' view. I bet they teach it!
 
carlosMM said:
the Creationism view is almost as lunatic as the pro-Nazi or 'slaves lives nice lives' view. I bet they teach it!

I'm pretty much certain they teach it given the evident evangelical-Christian leanings of the school. I meant are they even giving the ToE equal billing, or is that a topic unworthy of critical thinking?
 
carlosMM said:
the Creationism view is almost as lunatic as the pro-Nazi or 'slaves lives nice lives' view. I bet they teach it!
I can just about guarantee it.

I never knew slavery was such a good deal for the slaves. I'm surprised the slaves didn't just send the Union army back north when they came around to "liberate" them. "Thank you, but we know a good thing when we see it. Why if we were free how would we live a "life of plenty? Who'd give us our simple pleasures? Y'all just head back to Massachusetts and leave us alone."
 
IglooDude said:
I'm pretty much certain they teach it given the evident evangelical-Christian leanings of the school. I meant are they even giving the ToE equal billing, or is that a topic unworthy of critical thinking?

ups. misread you there a bit :( sorry.
 
My question is:
was I supposed to read all that?
 
* "To say the least, it is strange that the thing the Bible condemns (slave-trading) brings very little opprobrium upon the North, yet that which the Bible allows (slave-ownership) has brought down all manner of condemnation upon the South." (page 22)

Hmmmmmm. Slave ownership pro-Christian, slave trading anti-Christian?

* "Slavery as it existed in the South was not an adversarial relationship with pervasive racial animosity. Because of its dominantly patriarchal character, it was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence." (page 24)

* "There has never been a multi-racial society which has existed with such mutual intimacy and harmony in the history of the world." (page 24)

*Cue black slave's "I love muh massah!"

* "Slave life was to them a life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care." (page 25)

How dare those arrogant yanks deprive those peaceful, harmonious, and joyful negroes of their free food, shelter, and therepeutic whippings? I bet the blacks of today long for a return to the simple days of slavery where everything was happy happy joy joy.

* "But many Southern blacks supported the South because of long established bonds of affection and trust that had been forged over generations with their white masters and friends." (page 27)

Which is why I suppose so many black slaves turned down emancipation and had to be forcefully liberated. After all, the Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was ALL about tarriff's and state's rights. The north wasn't respecting the south's property rights. :rolleyes:

* "Nearly every slave in the South enjoyed a higher standard of living than the poor whites of the South -- and had a much easier existence." (page 30)

The scary thing being that I've actually seen people on this very forum make the above claim.
 
Hm...?
The booklet obviously fails to explain why the slave owners in all these happy and harmonical slave societies (US south, Carribean) lived in abject funk over the possibility of slave rebellions.
 
People are stupid. There are so many numerous ways to logically destroy their argument. For Example, why did slaves run away if they had such a nice life? Why did actual people who had been slaves denounce it? Why would the North fight for slaves' rights?

It's too easy.
 
Jeff Yu said:
The scary thing being that I've actually seen people on this very forum make the above claim.
Provide me a link, in the 2+ years I've been here I have never seen a SINGLE claim similar to that. If you wanted to troll your own thread you'll have to do a better job than that.
 
Of course they fail to realize or refuse to acknowledge that the Bible mainly refers to debt slavery, and AFAIK doesn't mention race-based slavery at all.

As far as them presenting it in their class, I refer you to US Constitution, Amendment I. They can say whatever they want, just like you can say whatever you want about them. Besides, how do you propose to explore motives and views of the south or any other society with slavery, without seeing something that might *gasp* be pro-slavery? Right, I forgot.. you'd rather just point and scream "evil evil evil, bad bad bad!" :rolleyes:
 
Speedo said:
Of course they fail to realize or refuse to acknowledge that the Bible mainly refers to debt slavery, and AFAIK doesn't mention race-based slavery at all.

"Both thy bondmen, and they bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids." Leviticus 25:44

Race-based slavery.
 
Actually, slaves at the Border States (Virginia, Maryland, Kentucky) were better treated than what modern history chronicles, which is what life was like for a slave in the Deep South/Bayou Country.

Booklet's still full of crap though.
 
Immortal said:
Provide me a link, in the 2+ years I've been here I have never seen a SINGLE claim similar to that. If you wanted to troll your own thread you'll have to do a better job than that.

Similar? Would a claim that blacks were better off being slaves than being in Africa be similar enough?
 
Dr. Yoshi said:
Actually, slaves at the Border States (Virginia, Maryland, Kentucky) were better treated than what modern history chronicles, which is what life was like for a slave in the Deep South/Bayou Country.

Booklet's still full of crap though.

Even assuming that that is true, slaves in the United States were still treated, to put it very, very lightly, not well. The fact that there might be a couple occurances in the Bible where slaves were treated well does not mean that all slaves were treated well throughout human history.
 
Why would they need to find a biblical justification for slavery if they were just talking about Southern justification for slavery. And whatever comment about "slavery is bad" that was presented along with everything else they presented was just to cover their asses. It's like saying "I ain't racist, but I 'em ******, but I ain't racist though"
 
This thing that scares me most is I've actually met someone that believed this idiotic dogma. Even scarier is Al-Jazerra does this type of thing (lies that is) about Jews.
 
A'AbarachAmadan said:
This thing that scares me most is I've actually met someone that believed this idiotic dogma.

;) Yes there are some still around who believe this bull...most being real old people from my experience. This junk seems to follow the line I heard once that,

"A slave owner invested good money in a slave and wouldn't hurt the slave because his good money paid for the slave." :rolleyes:

I guess if people try hard enough they can justify anything. :crazyeye:
 
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