Blut Und Ehre II

[alex994]

OOC: No specialist, IN THIS NES they were never good friends! And try reading the NES Blut End Hhre I....

To Russia
From Spain
Boss around? They do not "boss" us around! And there isn't only religous reasons, but political reasons as well....The Protestants free the serfs, and i believe Russia would not be able to survive very well without ur serfs.... And wat is this "Holy Roman Emperor" you speak of? Our alliance is Called the Holy Roman Empire, but there is not emperor....

 

[Specialist290]

OOC: OK, maybe they weren't such good friends. But since Brandenburg was led by Catholics, maybe the Protestants are trying to get in good with the current ruler's old foe...

From: Russia
To: Spain

We will concede one thing to you; we agree that Russia would not run as effectively without its serfs. And we apologize over the "Holy Roman Emperor" statement; we were mistaken as to its nature.

But still, Russia will continue to consider aiding the Protestants. Your reaction has given us new material to consider, but as yet there is no official decision on the matter.

 

[stalin006]

From Brandenburg:
To Russia:

Brandenburgs History is long, long time ago our lands were called Prussia. We were once in war allied w/ denmark, Saxony and ofcourse Russia..... Denmark and Saxony no longer exist, killed off by the power struggles of the catholic order.
Brandenburg is no longer the power it once was, and true, russia may have not been our greatest allie......for you see, Russia's past leadership was not very active in those days.
However we leave the past behind and ask you once more : Help your Neighbors, help us or you will have the power-hungry spanish and bavarians on your border.

 

[alex994]

To Brandenburg Protestants
From Spain
To be more specific, U killed off the Danish, and u aided the Bavarian's revolution against Saxony.....Do not blame others for wat u have done....

 

[Specialist290]

From: Russia
To: Spain

If you can provide documented proof of what you say (i.e. a link of some kind to a specific incident), we may be more receptive to your proposals. However, we will make no guarantees of anything until we have reached a decision.

From: Russia
To: Brandenburg Protestants

The same applies for you.

 

[alex994]

@Specialist, here's the proof:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=80222&page=46&pp=20, this link is the link to the last update on Blut Und Ehre, as u see, Denmark is independent, if u look on the map on the first page of this nes, Denmark is ruled from Berlin...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=80222&page=35&pp=20, this is the link to the update where Prussia is aiding the Bavarian's conquest of Saxony....

My evidence above proves that teh Protestants dug their own grave....

 

[stalin006]

Brandenburg Protestants:
To Russia:

Spain is Right, we have also made a search of the ancient archives......... Brandenbrug (Prussia) once helped the Bavarians.....matter of fact, it is thanks to us that they gained their independence from Poland centuries ago.
We made a few mistakes... helped a bunch of bavarian peasants get independence.
what has happened is now history, the Danish are as protestant as us, they now fight with us!.
History is full of alliences, wars and other things, you can choose to follow suit and let us die. Or you can be remembered as the Tzar that would not let himself be steped on by westerners.

Prussia is no longer Prussia, it is brandenburg, we are not the old catholic nation that did so much damage, help us now and we will return the favor some day.
let us die and....... well your nation will also become a distant territory in the hands of Madrid.

 

[alex994]

To Brandenburg Protestants
From Spain
i have to correct you AGAIN!!! They gained their independence from SAXONY....

 

[stalin006]

Brandenburg Protestants:
To Spain:
well our point was made, w/out us there would be no Bavaria........ well is the best we can do......the catholics burned the archives and librarys as they retreated, wonder why?

 

[Specialist290]

From: Russia
To: Spain

While this evidence looks very convincing at first, nowhere do I see any mention of Protestants. And according to our own archives (something on page 44 of the old thread), Bavaria gained its independence from POLAND.

From: Russia
To: both Spain and Brandenburg Protestants

Our final word for now: We shall think about it.

From: Russia
To: Poland

While we have not come to an official decision about how we shall intervene in Germany, we will say one thing to you if we do intervene: In case you decide to take advantage of our situation to try and filch some land off of us, do not forget that we have a VERY strong ally on your southern border...

 

[alex994]

OOC: SPECIALIST......Bavaria got her independence from SAXONY!!!!I have evidence And Protestants weren't around yet...

To Poland
From Spain
What about joining the Holy Roman Empire?

 

[stalin006]

From Brandenburg PRotestants:
to spain:
now it comes to mind, they did got their independence from Poland, and then annexed saxony.

From Poland: --**SECRET**--
to Russia:
no no......russia is the best way for us to get revenge........ you see a few decades ago the catholic bavarians and brandenburgians took two pieces of land from us as part of an embarrasing peace treaty.
if you help the new protestant revolution our revenge will be achieved.
we cant really get involved as our catholic population would give local problems.

 

[Specialist290]

From: Russia
To: Poland
*Secret*

Very well. And what two pieces of land got stolen? We may be able to arrange for them to be returned...

From: Russia
To: Spain

And if the Protestants weren't around yet, then how could they be responsible for Brandenburg backstabbing Saxony? Therefore it stands to reason that it was the Catholic rulers of Brandenburg who betrayed Saxony.

Now, stop bugging us so we can make up our minds without being disrupted every two minutes.

 

[alex994]

To Russia
From Spain
One little problem....I never said that the Catholic OR the Protestants betrayed Saxony....Where did u get that from?

EDIT: IS there something wrong with the update map?

 

[stalin006]

Poland:
to Russia:
**--Secret--**
the two territorys west of our capital.

To Spain:
From Poland:
......perhaps.....perhaps, but we will wait untill this conflict is over, we believe it will continue to esacalate.

 

[Specialist290]

From: Russia
To: Poland
*Secret*

Gotcha. We'll see what we can do.

From: Russia
To: Spain

At the moment that matters little. Now we request a little time to make up our minds, so unless you have something very important to say, we will ignore your messages until the appropriate time.

 

[alex994]

To Geneva
From Spain
Wat about joining HRE?

 

[Specialist290]

Nevermind.

 

[alex994]

Stalin, could u delay the update until Monday?

 

[Amon Savag]

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