BNP faces meltdown at local polls after defections and infighting

[Dachs]

I think the BNP are also anti-Europe, but only because their supporters are - it's not anything like as big a policy issue

Yes. The party that is just anti-Europe to the exclusion of everything else is UKIP; the reason it is easily confused with the BNP is that the BNP is also comprised of xenophobic anti-Europe nutcases with slightly more policy positions.

So an entire nation of Scots, Welshmen and Cornishmen, then?

Those are all Irish.

 

[Flying Pig]

Those are all Irish.

I know you're American, but could you take a look at the map on your wall and tell me what it has for the British Isles? Not sure Nick Griffin sees it that way mind.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Nah, that's UKIP. They're easily confused.

My bad.
So the BNP is against the EU and against foreigners in general ?
And for what ?

 

[Dachs]

I know you're American, but could you take a look at the map on your wall and tell me what it has for the British Isles? Not sure Nick Griffin sees it that way mind.

Merry Christmas. As for the Cornish, they're simply the West Welsh, and as for Scotland, I give you Dál Riata.

My bad.
So the BNP is against the EU and against foreigners in general ?
And for what ?

Animal welfare?

 

[LucyDuke]

"The video os not available in your country".
It's really starting to piss me off.

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Welcome to Question Time. And with me here in London, the leader of the British National Party, Nick Griffin, recently named the most powerful Muslim woman in Britain. We're talking about rasism in the British National Party. You start off.

I am thoroughly unpleasant and really creepy. Um. I'm against black people kissing in public. Uh. I believe that the Holocaust was an enormous party with Nazis just done what they really had to do. So, what's the problem. Finally, Adolf Hitler.

Why should anybody trust the BNP?

Why should anybody trust a rasist organization. Because the British National Party is extraordinarily rasist and rasism is an absolute foundation-stone of our party policy. And that's why I should be deported and everyone else can stay.

I'm sorry to those of you trying to get in, I've got to stop because Mr. Griffin is a wicked and vicious, repulsive, misguided twit.

 

[Flying Pig]

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Welcome to Question Time. And with me here in London, the leader of the British National Party, Nick Griffin, recently named the most powerful Muslim woman in Britain. We're talking about rasism in the British National Party. You start off.

I am thoroughly unpleasant and really creepy. Um. I'm against black people kissing in public. Uh. I believe that the Holocaust was an enormous party with Nazis just done what they really had to do. So, what's the problem. Finally, Adolf Hitler.

Why should anybody trust the BNP?

Why should anybody trust a rasist organization. Because the British National Party is extraordinarily rasist and rasism is an absolute foundation-stone of our party policy. And that's why I should be deported and everyone else can stay.

I'm sorry to those of you trying to get in, I've got to stop because Mr. Griffin is a wicked and vicious, repulsive, misguided twit.

Also, I'm pretty sure it's spelt 'racism'

 

[ParadigmShifter]

It's a CFC meme FP.

What you couldn't make out Lucy was

"Finally, Adolf Hitler".

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I have my doubts about the neutrality and authenticity of this summary.

 

[Mercenary82]

The turmoil comes as the Electoral Commission announced this week that the party had "failed to comply with the legal requirement to keep adequate financial records" for the second year running, further increasing the pressure on the BNP leader, Nick Griffin, who fought off a leadership challenge last year.

Do they have any evidence of this or is it just a desperate ploy by politicians to try and stop the rising tide of anti-EU parties gaining power throughout Europe?

Also I would like to see the original video before it got butchered to hell.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Nah, Lucy is good at typing (she's a secretary I think - take a letter Miss Duke )

 

[Arakhor]

The BNP is a fringe party of extremist lunatics and poached eggs in suits attempting to look respectable. They even had to be required by law to allow black members, as their white supremacist constitution previously barred ethnic minorities from joining.

 

[Mercenary82]

The BNP is a fringe party of extremist lunatics and poached eggs in suits attempting to look respectable. They even had to be required by law to allow black members, as their white supremacist constitution previously barred ethnic minorities from joining.

They are no more extremist then the current British party that is now attacking Libya or the previous one that went along with Bush's wars. I don't think the BNP would continue Britains atrocious foreign policy, they seem more like the type that will mind their own business and get out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. I don't think they will just deport minorities either, they just want immigration reform to stop more from comming in.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

LOL Right.

 

[Arakhor]

You really don't know anything about the BNP, do you, Mercenary? The Conservatives may be scumbags who might happily sell out their grannies for cash and titles, but they're not the fascist, neo-Nazi and legally racist party that is the BNP is.

 

[Newbunkle]

They want to put non-white kids in special schools that teach them about their "heritage" (with the intention of making them "homesick" I would guess).

 

[GinandTonic]

Do they have any evidence of this or is it just a desperate ploy by politicians to try and stop the rising tide of anti-EU parties gaining power throughout Europe?

Also I would like to see the original video before it got butchered to hell.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=question+time+nick+griffin&aq=1&oq=question+time+

There is a wiki page on the controversy.

The car-crash over their finances seems pucka. Used to be their supporters would write them not being able to get their finances off as being anti big gov. Given the huge mp's expenses scandal and the BNP harping on about the failure of the EU to get their accounts signed off it's bitten them on the but pretty hard. Respectable element resigning over it etc.

 

[Mercenary82]

You really don't know anything about the BNP, do you, Mercenary? The Conservatives may be scumbags who might happily sell out their grannies for cash and titles, but they're not the fascist, neo-Nazi and legally racist party that is the BNP is.

Those conservatives Liberals, and Labour are the corporate whores which is basically facism. They have turned your country into a surveilance police state, not the BNP.

BNP would be more isolationist and against corporatocracy. The established parties are just using the "racism" and "extremist" card to avoid debating them on the issues just like how the corrupt established parties here in the US do to third parties.

Where have they actually said they are going to round up minorities and put them in camps and deport them or whatever?

 

[GinandTonic]

My bad.
So the BNP is against the EU and against foreigners in general ?
And for what ?

Far right on law and order, on welfare issues an odd mix of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and social democracy.

The only party to really understand the resentment caused by the sell off of the social housing stock and consequent impossibility of the continuation of those communities - whole communities where 95%+ of the children will not be able to live in the same community as their parents and grandparents. This is overwhelmingly responsible for the rise of the BNP and something no other party has really addressed.

 

[Arakhor]

The BNP believe in the same idealogical purity of blood that the Nazis did. They don't need to make completely unelectable comments for you to know what they actually want for this country. I also fail to see how you know that they would be against corporatocracy. Many Western governments seem to run hand-in-hand with big business these days.

 

[Mercenary82]

The BNP believe in the same idealogical purity of blood that the Nazis did. They don't need to make completely unelectable comments for you to know what they actually want for this country. I also fail to see how you know that they would be against corporatocracy. Many Western governments seem to run hand-in-hand with big business these days.

So you acknowledge they haven't said anything like rounding up people or anything crazy like that?

You are just making assumptions about people using pre-concieved notions drilled into you by your corrupt corporate welfare giving parties that are getting deperate to stay in power. The corporatocracy is the natural enemy of the BNP because they back the corrupt established parties.

You can't argue that it is those parties that turned Britain into a police state, not the BNP. Who are the real facists?