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Or maybe they thought they could hide it in plain sight. After all, if there were a gap for Italy, we'd suspect that. They may have thought we'd think this was scenario only.
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Or maybe they thought they could hide it in plain sight. After all, if there were a gap for Italy, we'd suspect that. They may have thought we'd think this was scenario only.
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It's either Indonesia and Venice, Italy and Srivijaya, or the worst option: Italy with no Indonesia.
Or... the wording is just strange in that instance and Italy/Venice isn't in outside of that scenario. Which is the least likely of the three possibilities above.
Or... the wording is just strange in that instance and Italy/Venice isn't in outside of that scenario. Which is the least likely of the three possibilities above.
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The question is would they choose Italy over Indonesia?
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It's a little weird to have Constantinople and Istanbul, but it's a whole other ballgame to have Rome and Rome. Plus there are already two confirmed European civs. I seriously doubt both Italy and Venice and don't understand the assumption that one of them has to be in.
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Even if Italy is in, it is not necessarily modern Italy with Rome as its capital. It could just as easily be Renaissance Italy with Florence or Venice as a capital. Then there's no conflict, because with Rome farther down the Italian city list, then in any game where the Romans and Italians are both present, the Italians will simply skip over Rome when they get to that point on their list. It would hardly be the only case where the same city was on two different lists.
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Or just have the Roman Rome be Rome and the Italian Rome be Roma.
The Stanley and Livingstone Explorers, I presume, will only be available in the SfA scenario, where you can create a railroad from Cairo to Capetown, or discover two Natural Wonders in the main game.
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How would that work for the Portuguese, Spanish, or Italian version of Civ V?
It is just that, Roman Empire isn't a good depiction of even medieval Italy, much less renascentist and modern Italy. That leaves a quite big gap. A ratter gigantic one if I may say. Even if there were 100 civs and all those were European, that wouldn't makes the Italian gap smaller. Actually, what I don't understand is why there isn't already one Italian civ on civ, considering that they have already been on the tittle screen of two Civ expansions, have a lot of wonders and great people filling the game and have a historical importance which isn't filled nearly filled by Rome. Not in a game in which there is Greeks and Byzantines, and conglomerate civs like the Celts or the Mayans.
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Given their past history and the fact that Italy fits the features, the answer is that they absolutely could
ImperialChaos
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I'm kind of hyped for Italy now. It's a cultural marvel and would be a phenomenal addition to the expansion.
Damn, three posts at the same time!
Damn, three posts at the same time!
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I think we've been over why that makes no sense at length by now. At least Constantinople/Istanbul is two different names for the same city used in different time periods. Rome/Roma is the same name in two different languages. Using both forms would be as ridiculous as having England and Great Britain with London for one and Londres for the other. And what about people playing in languages where the city is actually called "Roma", and that form is used for the Romans? Are they supposed to arbitrarily get the English form imposed on the Italians all of a sudden? It's nonsense. I don't even know if Italy is actually in, or what form it will take if it is, but I will eat a pile of hats if they make its capital "Roma".
And your naming suggestion for the Italian language version is...?
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Hmm. Got me there. Though they could just... not use Rome as a city.
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What about the Spanish and Portuguese versions?
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Or put it literally anywhere on the city list other than the capital. It could be the second city, and it would make no difference. In any given game with the Italians, either the Romans will also be present or they will not. If they are, then they'll found Rome as their capital and the Italians will skip over it. If they are not, then Rome will be founded as a later Italian city. It's not that big a deal.
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Yeah, they'll probably code something like this.
If they could code the city thingy for Attila when people were saying there's no way they could come up with a reasonable city list for the Huns, then they can figure a way around Italy and Rome.
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I also agree, Italy is almost confirmed now, and lets not forget about Borobadour, if anything Indonesia could be represented by Srivijaya. Which really makes me worry that there's not going to be a native civ in BNW.
The Pueblo incident could really have messed up more of their work schedule than we anticipated, and with Borobadour in game, I dont think the Sioux will make it, or the Shawnee and Seminole for that matter, as there's seems to be no hidden achievement left for the civil war scenario.
I guess we'll have to wait for DLC's.
The Pueblo incident could really have messed up more of their work schedule than we anticipated, and with Borobadour in game, I dont think the Sioux will make it, or the Shawnee and Seminole for that matter, as there's seems to be no hidden achievement left for the civil war scenario.
I guess we'll have to wait for DLC's.
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