Brave New World's 9 new Civs

[Nujabes]

The map will be randomized so I don't think "blind spots" will be that impotant.

Blind spots is a reference to the general underrepresentation of the continent, not the scenario itself.

 

[otaman1]

I hope the north is desert to resemble the Sahara and the middle is jungle to represent the Congo rainforest. If not, I'll be frustrated ...

 

[cybrxkhan]

On the Celts, perhaps for the next Civ they could either only have the Gauls (with a leader like Brennus or Vercingetorix), the Britons (a blob civ, yes, for all pre-medieval Insular Celts, but at least it's more specific), or, god forbid, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, or Brittany.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Hungary might still be in BNW, their chances are roughly as good as anybody else's.

Unfortunately not
Pozsony/Pressburg is confirmed as a city-state

 

[AbsintheRed]

Kongo, Ashanti, Hittites, Hungary, Mapuche, Vietnam... They in fact still have good Civs to choose from after this expansion.

Yeah, I totally agree
This was my list:

I would love to see another 9 civs in a 3rd expansion

Obviously the civs should be chosen from the great "losers" of the Firaxis civ race:
Hungary, Khmer, Phoenicia, Sumer, Hittites, Mali, Vietnam or Indonesia (whichever is not included in BNW), Tibet, Armenia, Kongo, Khazars, Nubia

If all those civs would made it in (or at least the first 7-8), then my CiV experience would be complete - at least regarding civs

You can add the Ashanti and the Mapuche to that list, and of course the Pueblo/Anasazi.
This is with expecting that BNW will have Morocco, Italy, Indonesia(Srivijaya)/Vietnam and a north american native civ
Anyway, I would welcome any of these civs.

 

[Dragonflow]

Unfortunately not
Pozsony/Pressburg is confirmed as a city-state

Pressburg doesn't necessarily need to be on a Hungarian city-list as it's the capitol of today's Slovakia. Hungary can still be a civ as long as it's uses cities in today's Hungary. The city-state is also called Bratislava in the game, not Pressburg. Which means Pressburg can be on a Hungarian city-list. Just like we have Istanbul/Constantinople or London/Londinium.

 

[Uberfrog]

I hope the north is desert to resemble the Sahara and the middle is jungle to represent the Congo rainforest. If not, I'll be frustrated ...

I think the idea of the randomisation is that there will be a Sahara-type desert, and a Congo-like rainforest, but they won't necessarily be the same size or in the same place as they actually are. It adds to the mystery of the exploration; same with the natural wonder and civ placement. Hence you might get the Zulu starting in north Africa next to Kilimanjaro in the middle of a jungle.

It's very likely there will also be a geographically accurate map, as there is for the New World, Polynesian, and Renaissance scenarios, which are the ones that currently have the option for randomisable maps.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Unfortunately not
Pozsony/Pressburg is confirmed as a city-state

I wouldn't count Hungary out. As long as Budapest or any other city from modern-day Hungary isn't confirmed as a CS yet, Hungary has a chance. Even if Pressburg was part of historical Hungary, the devs have never really thought of city lists in a 100% historical way. Belgrade never eliminated the Byzantines, for instance.

 

[Dragonflow]

Wittemberg is actually just a city in Germany and in the game it's a religious city-state, yet it doesn't eliminate Germany as a civ.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Pressburg doesn't necessarily need to be on a Hungarian city-list as it's the capitol of today's Slovakia. Hungary can still be a civ as long as it's uses cities in today's Hungary. The city-state is also called Bratislava in the game, not Pressburg. Which means Pressburg can be on a Hungarian city-list. Just like we have Istanbul/Constantinople or London/Londinium.

I wouldn't count Hungary out. As long as Budapest or any other city from modern-day Hungary isn't confirmed as a CS yet, Hungary has a chance. Even if Pressburg was part of historical Hungary, the devs have never really thought of city lists in a 100% historical way. Belgrade never eliminated the Byzantines, for instance.

I hope you are right, but I'm pessimistic at this point...
Not to mention the pretty good chances for both Italy and Morocco

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Wittemberg is actually just a city in Germany and in the game it's a religious city-state, yet it doesn't eliminate Germany as a civ.

Wittenberg is one of the few exceptions to that rule, because it's so widely recognized as a the place where Reformation was born. Not to mention Wittenberg was not on Germany's city list before G&K anyway.

 

[otaman1]

Prague was part of the Habsburg Monarchy of the HRE in which Maria Theresa ruled and it was also part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Yet Austria is in the game (assuming Austrian Empire represents the HRE, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Austrian Empire, or Habsburg Monarchy.

 

[cybrxkhan]

I hope you are right, but I'm pessimistic at this point...
Not to mention the pretty good chances for both Italy and Morocco

Yeah, I don't think Hungary's chances are as high as Italy (and frankly in my schematics they aren't in), but they haven't been completely ruled out. Yet.

 

[SolInvictus]

Unfortunately not
Pozsony/Pressburg is confirmed as a city-state

Yeah, I don't think Hungary's chances are as high as Italy (and frankly in my schematics they aren't in), but they haven't been completely ruled out. Yet.

I have lessened their chances somewhat myself, but I don't think Bratislava really means there won't be a Pozsony, and their are plenty of other historically and culturally significant cities to go on the list besides Budapest located within the modern borders, Pecs, Debrecen, Miskolc, Esztergom, Visegrád, Székesfehérvár... Szeged

 

[PhilBowles]

The map will be randomized so I don't think "blind spots" will be that impotant.

The map will be randomised; do we know that civ starting positions will be? When I heard 'random map' I presumed it just meant that tile terrain and resources would be randomised within Africa. That doesn't imply that starting positions will be random.

 

[Dragonflow]

I believe they said that only the inside of Africa will be randomized.

 

[otaman1]

The map will be randomised; do we know that civ starting positions will be? When I heard 'random map' I presumed it just meant that tile terrain and resources would be randomised within Africa. That doesn't imply that starting positions will be random.

It's hard to tell. Depending on what the start year is (presumably 1800), Europeans would probably start off with no cities but with lots of musketmen & workers & probably some settlers. As for already occupied African civs & the Ottomans, they start with cities. I just hope that European civs start with a settler if they don't have cities in Africa yet.

 

[Tsuchinoko]

Seeing as Constantinople and Istanbul can both be in the same game already (if you have both Byzantium and the Ottomans), I really don't think it'd be a problem to have both Pressburg in a hypothetical Hungarian city list and Bratislava as a City State. That said, I'm not expecting Hungary to be in BNW (I think Italy and Morocco/The Moors are more likely, at this point). Hopefully we'll be able to convince Firaxis that there's enough demand for a third expansion, then it'd have another chance to be represented as a full civ.

 

[Leugi]

So... Considering Italy is hinted within the Achievements as part of the Scramble for Africa Scenario... Would'nt it be odd if they actuall were a new civ? I mean, they go through so much for hiding all, and they just slip one in the Achievements list for everyone?

So, I don't think Italy will actually be a new civilization... So again:

1. Assyria
2. Brazil
3. 4.

· Inuit: North American, Pro-Civ, New Resource
· Indonesia: Asian, Trade (though, through water which is highly Portugal's niche)
· Florence?
· Morocco: Kasbah.
· Italy: Which, since it is so well hinted at the achievements I no longer think its likely.. But, Great Works and Ideologies...​

5. Poland
6. Portugal
7.8,

· Sioux: North-American, New Resource? (Bison)
· Vietnam: Asian, Ideologies.
· Venice: Instead of Italy, now I think they have more chances, and Great Works...
· Pueblo?: Highly doubtful IMO, that they have talked so much about them tells me that they are clearly not one of the highly secret civs...​

9. Zulu

 

[Louis XXIV]

Prague was part of the Habsburg Monarchy of the HRE in which Maria Theresa ruled and it was also part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Yet Austria is in the game (assuming Austrian Empire represents the HRE, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Austrian Empire, or Habsburg Monarchy.

You're supposed to use the Austrian unique ability to represent that. If I'm not mistaken, the city-list is predominantly Austrian instead of Hungarian, Bohemian, and Bosnian.