Breastfeeding in public

[Loppan Torkel]

What if we had to grasp at straws for any shred of an argument – would that change the overall point of the discussion?

What?! You're ok with the unsanitary act of dogs urinating in public and claim that showing your willy in public has nothing to do with indecent exposure per se - you're being inconsistent somewhere....

 

[stormbind]

Then they would need to visit the Atlanta Genital Institute and stop trying to get their noses into totally unrelated issues like breastfeeding.

touche

I'm not sure I can identify the connection between fiction and human glandular productions? Can you explain you post?

 

[warpus]

What?! You're ok with the unsanitary act of dogs urinating in public and claim that showing your willy in public has nothing to do with indecent exposure per se - you're being inconsistent somewhere....

What do you propose? That we exterminate all animals on the planet, cause they don't know how to use bathrooms?

 

[W|M]

I say breastfeeding is natural and healthy, but the mother should keep it a little hidden to protect her privacy...

 

[Loppan Torkel]

What do you propose? That we exterminate all animals on the planet, cause they don't know how to use bathrooms?

Admitting that it's indecent exposure to urinate in public goes a long way.

 

[BSmith1068]

What?! You're ok with the unsanitary act of dogs urinating in public and claim that showing your willy in public has nothing to do with indecent exposure per se - you're being inconsistent somewhere....

I was actually referring to stormbind’s post (although I didn’t quote it, my response was in the same form as his and is the next post&#8230

 

[warpus]

Admitting that it's indecent exposure to urinate in public goes a long way.

I'm a realist. Admitting that dog pee smells doesn't accomplish anything.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

What?! You're ok with the unsanitary act of dogs urinating in public and claim that showing your willy in public has nothing to do with indecent exposure per se - you're being inconsistent somewhere....

So apparently dogs can moralize like humans? If I had a penny for all the farfetched comparisons in this thread...

 

[Loppan Torkel]

So apparently dogs can moralize like humans? If I had a penny for all the farfetched comparisons in this thread...

Dogs urine and human urine is a far fetched comparison as to the unsanitary quality of urine?! The posters' ability to reason in this thread seems to be dwindling...

Still, you could let your dog go in your backyard or put a diaper on it for all I care, if you have a problem with urine in public.

I'm still only arguing that peeing in public has more to do with the indecency of it than the health aspect. You can argue otherwise...

 

[bhsup]

Wait. Urine isn't actually unsanitary though, right?

 

[warpus]

Dogs urine and human urine is a far fetched comparison as to the unsanitary quality of urine?! The posters' ability to reason in this thread seems to be dwindling...

Still, you could let your dog go in your backyard or put a diaper on it for all I care, if you have a problem with urine in public.

I'm still only arguing that peeing in public has more to do with the indecency of it than the health aspect. You can argue otherwise...

Dogs with diapers?

The reason we force humans to use the bathroom for pee and poop is because by the time most people are 7 years old, they know how to use the bathroom to relieve themselves. I don't know what sorts of hyperintelligent dogs you have where you come from, but as far as I know it's impossible to train dogs to "hold it in" and use some sort of a dog bathroom for their pooping and peeing needs. Of course I admit I may be ignorant on the issue and may not be aware of the latest in Swedish dog pooping technology.

 

[stormbind]

I'm still only arguing that peeing in public has more to do with the indecency of it than the health aspect.

What is your take on open air urinals?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Wait. Urine isn't actually unsanitary though, right?

Do you like the smell of ammonia?

 

[bhsup]

No, but that does not mean unsanitary. In fact, ammonia is a cleaning agent. Urine is sterile, IIRC, and does not contain any mean nasty micro-bugs.

 

[stormbind]

Amonnia has been used as a dissinfectant and more refined modern products are ammonium compounds.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Ammonia isn't a substance you'd want to be inhaling anyway. Although yes, urine should be mostly sanitary, provided the urinary tract is healthy.

@Loppan
Usually public urination is against a wall, or a corner. Unless men's thighs are massive enough to cause gravitational lensing...?

 

[BSmith1068]

In developing country cities, particularly in informal settlements and slums, sanitary and hygiene conditions stemming from the lack of adequate wastewater and human waste collection, treatment and/or disposal are dangerous and even life-threatening for the environmental health of urban residents and deteriorate the overall environmental quality of the urban area at large. While defining urban sanitation problems and devising their seemingly intuitive solutions may be less problematic than in other sectors of urban development, the hurdles involved in their planning and the tradeoffs implicit in their implementation challenge even the most able urban water and sanitation (W&S) authorities. Globally some 2.4 billion people do not have access to improved sanitation . Everyday as many as 30,000 people die from preventable water- and hygiene-related diseases. They affect at any given time almost half the urban population of developing countries. Annually more than 2 million people die from diarrheal diseases. Many millions more are debilitated, preventing them from being fully productive members of society. In urban areas, due to high rates of growth and population densities, the individual impact of poor sanitation and water-related diseases, as well as the overall impact on society, is even greater. Children and the urban poor are especially vulnerable to the public health problems stemming from poor sanitation and water-related diseases.

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http://www.makingcitieswork.org/urbanThemes/environment/sanitation

How Diseases are Transmitted

Before looking at ways to prevent the spread of disease, it is helpful to know the ways diseases are transmitted. Diseases are caused by germs, which are transmitted from one person to another through

* the air
* urine and feces
* blood
* saliva
* skin
* drainage, such as nasal mucus or pus from open sores

Germs multiply rapidly in warm moist places. When objects or hands touch places where there are a lot of germs, they pick up the germs, which then enter the body through the nose, eyes, mouth, and/or broken skin.

Impetigo and ring worm are transmitted via direct physical contact with the infected areas of skin.

Diseases like colds, chicken pox, and some forms of meningitis are transmitted largely via the air through sneezes and coughs, although they can also be spread through saliva and nasal drainage.

Diarrhea, which generally is a symptom of some gastrointestinal virus, bacteria, or parasite, is transmitted through feces. Some forms of hepatitis can also be transmitted via feces or through urine and blood. Blood and blood products are the major carriers of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

http://www.archrespite.org/archfs42.htm

I think we all know that public urination and defecation is a whole lot more than just indecent exposure. It is a proven public health risk and to argue otherwise is foolish.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

I think we all know that public urination and defecation is a whole lot more than just indecent exposure. It is a proven public health risk and to argue otherwise is foolish.

How did you make the jump from the juridical application of "Indecent exposure" to third world people dying of diarrheal diseases?

I don't know what sorts of hyperintelligent dogs you have where you come from, but as far as I know it's impossible to train dogs to "hold it in" .. Of course I admit I may be ignorant on the issue and may not be aware of the latest in Swedish dog pooping technology.

I think the equivalent term in English would be "house training". It means that you train the dog not to all over your house. He kind of holds it in to a more appropriate time... We had such a hyperintelligent dog a few years ago.

What is your take on open air urinals?

I don't care as long as it's legal and done in a discrete way. There's no reason to try and long-pee in that place.

 

[stormbind]

BSimth,

... as is sneezing, coughing and sweating. Any public expulsions can transmit various diseases

 

[stormbind]

I don't care as long as it's legal and done in a discrete way. There's no reason to try and long-pee in that place.

Now you have shifted from indecency to legality, and I'm consequently still unsure of where you stand. What's your take on long-peeing in the middle of a road when it is legal?