Breastfeeding in public

[Grisu]

She can't lift up the blanket and look inside?

Every couple of seconds? Sounds like quite the hassle. She has enough stuff to trouble with, she really doesn't need this..

Also, what if someone were to walk by just when she lifts the blanket? He'll be scarred for life!!

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

The blanket should go over the face of the people with petty self-centred objections.

 

[Disgustipated]

wow this thread is up to 9 pages. me thinks you guys like to talk about breasts.

seriously, is it that hard not to look? Most people can avert their eyes. Kind of reminds me of that funny scene in the Hangover of the mom breastfeeding. Most guys avert their eyes, but the one weird dude stares right at it. Hilarious.

 

[holy king]

Public - spitting, urinating, deficating, sweating, crying, breathing and masterbating all share the property that they excrete bodily fluids into a public space.

Public - breast feeding, kissing, holding hands, resuscitating and copulating all share the property that they share bodily fluids between two persons in public view.

These are two distinct groups of actions.

where do you think body fluids go during sex? absorbed by the other respectively?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

wow this thread is up to 9 pages. me thinks you guys like to talk about breasts.

seriously, is it that hard not to look? Most people can avert their eyes. Kind of reminds me of that funny scene in the Hangover of the mom breastfeeding. Most guys avert their eyes, but the one weird dude stares right at it. Hilarious.

Seems ocular and neck muscle atrophy is more common than I thought.

In the US, breasts are covered by indecent exposure laws.

Nursing an infant should not be considered indecent. If you have a different personal opinion, then I cannot change that, and I am not willing to waste my time convincing you otherwise.

All bodily fluids have different properties so they pose different hazards,

Oh, you do realize that.

but none is more or less hazard to any meaningful degree. Breastmilk contains AIDS, feces does not. Feces caries ecoli, breast milk does not. Its irrelevant, both pose health hazards, and that is all that matters.

Damn, HIV infection rates for new mothers is close to 100%?

You are engaged in a strawman, namely that the bodily fluids of urination of defication are assumed to be uncontroled while in the case of breast feeding it will be. This is a manufactured postion, we can control urine and feces via appropriate recepticals as easily as we can breast milk. And unless you habitually crap on your floor, then you probably practice the use of those recepticals often.

You objections based on sanitation are not logically consistant as stated.

How am I assuming it's uncontrolled?

And not all feces carries the same sanitary properties either. It depends on lots of things. Its irrelevant though, as both are bodily fluids that pose sanitation hazards, the fact that they are different hazards is of no consequence to your position.

Yes, but all feces has bacteria. All breast milk does not have similar microorganisms. To treat both as the same biohazard level is disingenuous.

I’m sorry. I am talking about our existing society for this discussion. When people talk about peeing/breastfeeding in public I am assuming normal infrastructure as it exists today. We don’t see open air urinals or toilets sitting on sidewalks that people can use. If that were the case, this discussion would be different. Relieving one’s self in public implies going on the wall or sidewalk. Not in a “sanitary receptacle”. When someone pees in public, I hardly think they are going to take the pee with them when they are done or otherwise dispose of it properly.

Oh that's what he's talking about? I'm pretty sure we're talking about punishing people for peeing in the wrong place (read: not a restroom or open air urinal). I thought that's what the "public urination" charge and fine was for.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

seriously, is it that hard not to look? Most people can avert their eyes. Kind of reminds me of that funny scene in the Hangover of the mom breastfeeding. Most guys avert their eyes, but the one weird dude stares right at it. Hilarious.

Interesting that most guys avert their eyes and you find it hilarious when one doesn't. Why is that? It's a natural thing, nothing sexual about it and the mom flaunting her breasts shouldn't have any problem with people watching.

Should people avert their eyes from moms breastfeeding or are they free to look where ever they want?

 

[Mathilda]

Old thread.

Mathilda!

Yes, how can I help?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

they free to look where ever they want?

Yes. Just don't complain if you keep staring at something you don't like.

 

[warpus]

The blanket should go over the face of the people with petty self-centred objections.

That is the best solution to this "issue" I've heard all week!

 

[Lillefix]

(If we're equalizing conditions, I don't see why we should loosen laws so that they're equally applied rather than tightening them)

Because those laws are pointless in the first place perhaps? No need to make them twice as pointless by tightening them.

 

[bhsup]

Honestly, they should at least use a blanket!


If that's the case, then let's ban men from going topless too! (If we're equalizing conditions, I don't see why we should loosen laws so that they're equally applied rather than tightening them)

I support this. DO NOT OPEN SPOILER IF YOU'VE RECENTLY EATEN!

Spoiler :

 

[Aegis]

Eh, not really. Taking a crap on the sidewalk outside of a McDonald's downtown is way different than spitting there. (at least where I come from). Both are examples of bodily fluids being secreted.

Feces and urine are excretions because they are waste.

Breastmilk and sperm are secretions because they are beneficial and serve a purpose.

 

[Elrohir]

Every couple of seconds? Sounds like quite the hassle. She has enough stuff to trouble with, she really doesn't need this..

Also, what if someone were to walk by just when she lifts the blanket? He'll be scarred for life!!

Do you really need to look at the baby every couple of seconds? I've seen women nurse with a blanket before, and I never noticed that they had to check underneath every couple of seconds. I suppose I could be horrifically unobservant, but I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of a little practice.

And you don't take the blanket off -- you pull it forward so that you can look down, but no one else can see inside unless they're standing right above you. And if they're being that much of a creeper, then you have bigger problems.

Because those laws are pointless in the first place perhaps? No need to make them twice as pointless by tightening them.

I think we just disagree about their pointlessness.

 

[Karalysia]

I support this breastfeeding in public. I also support public nudity. (Seriously, I do) And I support public sex. (Yes seriously I do).

 

[warpus]

I support this. DO NOT OPEN SPOILER IF YOU'VE RECENTLY EATEN!

You got the wrong thread, this isn't the members photo pics!

If that's the case, then let's ban men from going topless too! (If we're equalizing conditions, I don't see why we should loosen laws so that they're equally applied rather than tightening them)

They are equally applied here in the topless capital of north america, Ontario

Feces and urine are excretions because they are waste.

Breastmilk and sperm are secretions because they are beneficial and serve a purpose.

Sperm serves no purpose outside of a McDonald's. Breastmilk could.

And you don't take the blanket off -- you pull it forward so that you can look down, but no one else can see inside unless they're standing right above you. And if they're being that much of a creeper, then you have bigger problems.

Seriously man, that sounds like the way they probably feed babies in Saudi Arabia or something (No offense to any Saudi Arabian mothers who may be reading this)

 

[Cheetah]

Seriously man, that sounds like the way they probably feed babies in Saudi Arabia or something (No offense to any Saudi Arabian mothers who may be reading this)

Well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastfeeding_in_public#Saudi_Arabia

Saudi Arabia
According to Jan Riordan of Wichita State University, women in Saudi Arabia openly breastfeed their infants even though they may be fully veiled.

I guess this is the third solution: If the blanket is put over the rest of the woman it's okay.

 

[warpus]

Whoa, that is WEIRD. So the face has to remain covered, but boobs out is cool? I wonder what Imam authorized that

 

[CaptainF]

Lol I love a messageboard in which participants honestly argue that breastmilk and breastfeeding is a public health hazard, or that it is somehow indecent.

Thank you for reminding me every damn day that I'm not insane. Bless the lot of you.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Yes. Just don't complain if you keep staring at something you don't like.

You can claim that there aren't any social restrictions, but just like you won't search out moms to stare at their breasts when they've gone somewhere secluded to breastfeed (you'll probably even avert your eyes if you happen to walk by because that's common decency), it's also common decency not to put the breasts out for display in a crowded area.

It's amusing that so many are afraid for the idea of being intolerant that they can't admit their own social rules.

 

[Aegis]

Sperm serves no purpose outside of a McDonald's. Breastmilk could.

What?

The point was that masturbation should not be lumped together with defecating/urinating because it's not the same thing. It has more in common with breastfeeding.