[BtS MOD] Wolfshanze 1850-1920 Enhancement Mod v2.0

[CivisTexanus]

You don't like the thought of HRE and Germany sharing space in the game, but you're perfectly fine with the Confederacy and Union, even though both are essentially identical civs in history, language, customs, technology, living space and everything else? In civ4-terms, there are only TWO/THREE Civ4 units that would have different graphics (Rifle, Cavalry, Cannon).

Ah but Wolfy, MY objections to HRE were never about the sharing of space. I really hated the name! I have no problem with having Austria and Germany at the same time. North German and South German Polity was rarely united in anything more than sympathy.

Not to mention by your suggestion, the United States is not allowed to share any cities south of the Mason-Dixon line, even if they are the only "America" in a random game.

No... I already gave my thoughts on this matter... the Confederacy would be even dumber then the HRE IMHO, and really belongs in a scenario, not as a standard civ for random play. It's essentially a duplicate America other then 4 years out of 6,000 years of gameplay (that's two turns in Civ4 time-line folks).

Ain't happening.

And I can always change if it if I want to

 

[Dragonflow]

Wolf I have a question is it possible that you change the colour Byzantine is using from pink to yellow,because pink doesn't fit the civ and there aren't that many yellow using civs if I remember right.But it no big problem if you keep pink.

 

[Ninja2]

Why is yellow better than pink? Are the Byzantines a yellow civ?

 

[Dragonflow]

Yellow is better than pink because yellow resembles gold and it looks more royal and stronger than pink.

 

[Wodan]

Yellow is better than pink because yellow resembles gold and it looks more royal and stronger than pink.

Based on that rationale, all colors are better than pink. This isn't an argument in favor of yellow so much as a moratorium against pink.

 

[c0d5579]

What about maroon? I realize everyone and his dog has red, but hear me out.

1 - The birthing room in the Grand Palace in Constantinople, where legitimate (as opposed to coup) emperors were born, was finished in porphyry, which is maroon to purple.

2 - The default color for Rome is purple.

3 - The colors of the Palaeologos emperors were St. George's cross quartered with the Greek letter beta in gold on crimson.

4 - Everyone and their dog has red as a color, so I figure a shade of red somewhere between Russia, the Third Rome, and Rome, the First Rome, falls about maroon.

 

[Dragonflow]

What about maroon? I realize everyone and his dog has red, but hear me out.

1 - The birthing room in the Grand Palace in Constantinople, where legitimate (as opposed to coup) emperors were born, was finished in porphyry, which is maroon to purple.

2 - The default color for Rome is purple.

3 - The colors of the Palaeologos emperors were St. George's cross quartered with the Greek letter beta in gold on crimson.

4 - Everyone and their dog has red as a color, so I figure a shade of red somewhere between Russia, the Third Rome, and Rome, the First Rome, falls about maroon.

Actually maroon or yellow are the two best colours fitting Byzantine.But so many civs already use red or dark red or whatever sort of red.And by looking on the Byzantineflag people can see that there's allot of yellow in it so yellow definitely fits Byzantine better that pink or maroon can be used as well.

 

[tomppb]

What about a light purple for Byzantium?

 

[c0d5579]

Like I said, that's the Palaeologos flag; using it for the empire as a whole is a little questionable. I'm finding it near-impossible to find a better early (as in Justinian to Basil II) banner than that, but you see what I mean, St. George's cross, beta in gold on crimson.

EDIT - Found something. No guarantees, but that close to Justinian, they're probably Domestikoi, or personal bodyguard troops of the Emperor himself. They're at the far-left of the image, which is from San Vitale, in Ravenna. Note the labarum on the shields, rather than the Palaeologos banner. Shields are multi-colored, though the chief domestic seems to be in blue and the visible shield in blue, so I might have to consider sky-blue, much as I hate to change directions that radically.

Image tags and I don't seem to agree, so direct link...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Meister_von_San_Vitale_in_Ravenna_003.jpg

 

[Wolfshanze]

Wolf I have a question is it possible that you change the colour Byzantine is using from pink to yellow,because pink doesn't fit the civ and there aren't that many yellow using civs if I remember right.But it no big problem if you keep pink.

Maybe, but I'd have to change the Byzantines TO PINK in the first place to switch them off of pink, since they're not pink in my mod. You might want to adjust your monitor... or see an eye doctor.

 

[c0d5579]

Well, that was a storm in a teacup. This is what comes of me posting from the office without loading the mod. D'oh.

 

[Couch Tomato]

To make everyone happy, let's have all civs be red. Borders only lead to conflict anyways!

 

[Wolfshanze]

To make everyone happy, let's have all civs be red. Borders only lead to conflict anyways!

There's two universal rules that must be obeyed:

1) Not every Civ in Civ4 can be red (trust me, everyone wants their favorite civ to be red)

2) Not every Fantasy Football team gets to have a black helmet (trust me, everyone wants one)

 

[CivisTexanus]

"Mmm - yes - hmm?" The sergeant (Magic - Disposal and Administration) lifted her snout out from from a sheaf of papers. Her tilted eyes glittered in the sun, and a slight froth trickled down her small porcine jaws. One of her ears twitched arhythmically. "Corporal, your squad needs a colour designation. Call yourself Red Squad, or Blue Squad, or..."

"Yes sir, ma'am!" Barashkukor slammed a salute. "Please, ma'am, permission to designate this squad Black Squad?"

"No!" The female Orc glared. She rattled the sheaf of papers under Barashkukor's pointed nose. "We already have fifteen Black Squads, twelve Dark Squads, four Raven Squads, three Midnight Squads, one Sable Squad, one Ebony Squad and," she consulted a sheet of pape, "one Pink Squad. Hmm. Yes. Well... We're all a little worried about Pink Squad..."

 

[Dragonflow]

Maybe, but I'd have to change the Byzantines TO PINK in the first place to switch them off of pink, since they're not pink in my mod. You might want to adjust your monitor... or see an eye doctor.

Ok,they are not pink but they are some kind of light purple which is nearly pink.But the Byzantine colour is not a big problem I can perfectly live with light purple as their colour.So no need of changing if you don't want to.

 

[ladiesman]

Ok,they are not pink but they are some kind of light purple which is nearly pink.But the Byzantine colour is not a big problem I can perfectly live with light purple as their colour.So no need of changing if you don't want to.

That seems to be the color I see most associated with them. On maps and everything their borders are usually a purpleish color.

1) Not every Civ in Civ4 can be red (trust me, everyone wants their favorite civ to be red)

That is true, but I don't really get it. There's a few Civs where red makes sense, but not that many. Russia, Japan and China are the only ones I really see as "should have red". Japan i'd almost rather be white, though.

Actually blue seems to represent more civs, but nobody ever brings up blue.

 

[Couch Tomato]

That seems to be the color I see most associated with them. On maps and everything their borders are usually a purpleish color.



That is true, but I don't really get it. There's a few Civs where red makes sense, but not that many. Russia, Japan and China are the only ones I really see as "should have red". Japan i'd almost rather be white, though.

Actually blue seems to represent more civs, but nobody ever brings up blue.

Russia is definitely red, but China can use yellow (yellow symbolizes the Han people), and Japan can use white. Also the Ottoman Empire would almost definitely want red, and Vietnam would like red as well (though yellow works too). Poland as well. And definitely don't forget England (white also works for them as well though).

America, France, and Greece are blue-wanting countries (though Greece has a lighter shade), and I think that's it. =/ Korea's usually associated with blue, but they get stuck with teal in Civ.

 

[arstal]

To me- Russia would be Green, not Red, unless it was Communist Russia.

 

[Dragonflow]

Well two of four Russian leaders are communists in the mod,so I suppose Russia better remain red.

 

[Couch Tomato]

To me- Russia would be Green, not Red, unless it was Communist Russia.

I'm just wondering... how would Russia be green? The only other colors I can see are white and yellow.