ruff_hi
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sisiutil - a 1.25mb game save! No wonder you were having CtD issues. Of course BAT raises the bar some by having more graphics, but I am pretty sure that stuff isn't included in the save.
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EmperorFool
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I'm disappointed as well to hear about this. Thank you for your feedback as I haven't heard this before and suspect people may just expect this of a mod. That's not cool, and I hate to hear that you had to abandon a game (see below).
I suspect it's the new version of Varietas Delectat and/or Improved Graphics included in the new BAT 1.1. The previous version of BAT with VD 3.0 and no IG at all was quite stable. I've honestly only played one full game with BAT, but since I'm constantly adding and testing things in BUG, I play with BUG all the time and have no problems like this.
I'll play around with your save and see what I can find. Thanks!
I eventually abandoned the game...
If you want to continue that game, uninstall BAT and then create a folder in your Mods folder with the same name: "Mods/BAT Mod 1.1". Since there's no new DLL with BAT, this should work fine. You may need to create an empty "Assets" folder inside that new folder.
I was quite surprised to see that while reading through a game in the strategy subforum. That would annoy me to no end. I think you can remove the XML/CIV4ColorVals.xml file to get the original colors.
I vastly prefer Blue Marble myself. You can remove the IG graphics by removing the file "Assets/IG_v2.0.7.FPK".
As I said above, I play with BUG for all my games, and I've never had a CTD not caused while developing a new feature. In fact, all my work is in Python which doesn't cause CTDs.
EmperorFool
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I played a recent game that happily went past 1.4 MB around 1800AD. It was a 9 civ game on a large map, IIRC. I was using BUG, though--not BAT.
Sisiutil
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It looks like I'm encountering that problem. Where is this file and what is its exact name?
I forgot to add--I really appreciate how responsive and helpful you guys are.
EmperorFool
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It's called "Plot List Enhancements.ini" and will be located in the "BUG Mod" settings folder:
- Standard Install: "My Games\BTS\BUG Mod"
- Mod Install: "My Games\BTS\Mods\BUG Mod 3.5.1\BUG Mod"
Thanks for the feedback.
I know how frustrating it can be as a user when that isn't the case.
Sisiutil
All Leader Challenger
Nope, that results in a CtD when I try to load the game. *sigh*
EmperorFool
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Bummer. I just verified that this procedure works when I do this for BUG Mod 3.5.1. I've been out of the BAT loop since I'm still running 3.13. I suppose we can just expect everyone to be running 3.17 at this point, eh?
I'll update to 3.17 tomorrow and test out a) your save and b) if doing the above should work.
Just to be sure, do you happen to have any modifications at all in CustomAssets? Can you open the file "Mods\BAT Mod 1.1\BAT Mod 1.1.ini" in Notepad and make sure the following options are both 1:
Code:
; Custom Art from user folder is not loaded
NoCustomArt = [B]1[/B]
; Custom XML and Python from user folder are not loaded
NoCustomAssets = [B]1[/B]Sisiutil
All Leader Challenger
Sorry, too late, I've uninstalled both mods. I'll try them at a later date when these bugs have been worked out. Seems too much like a work in progress at the moment.
EmperorFool
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Seems too much like a work in progress at the moment.
Out of curiosity, did you install BUG 3.5.1 or the latest SVN snapshot? 3.5.1 is completely stable and shouldn't cause you any grief. People running Vista and/or CivGold/Complete have sometimes had trouble, but we've been able to solve those issues pretty quick.
If you grabbed the latest SVN snapshot, and Ruff's post about a possible bug applies only to the SVN version, you're drinking directly from the firehose! The SVN is our work in progress. I highly recommend sticking with 3.5.1 if you have a low tolerance for occasional hiccups.
Anyway, I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of your threads over the past two years. I'd be happy to help more if I can (feel free to PM me and we can IM to get it straightened out), but don't sweat it if you aren't interested at this time. I just hope we get a chance to redeem ourselves in the future.
ruff_hi
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well, that is me. I will look at it.
ruff_hi
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I've checked out the latest version of BUG, exported it to a virgin customassets and don't get a problem. Make sure you have the maininterface file (seems like you do) but also the BUG options py file and the BUG config xml file.
ruff_hi
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This is a known issue with a published solution. This was fixed in 1629 but if you had unchecked 'enabled' while it was still an option on the option screen you will have to manually edit the PLE ini file.
EmperorFool
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Yes, CvModFolder must match the folder where you install your mod. CvModName, however, no longer needs to match anything. It is only displayed in the BUG Options screen.
Sisiutil
All Leader Challenger
I'm pretty sure I just had the standard versions; the SVN requires special software to even access the download links, right? When I saw that, I backed off and went standard.Out of curiosity, did you install BUG 3.5.1 or the latest SVN snapshot? 3.5.1 is completely stable and shouldn't cause you any grief. People running Vista and/or CivGold/Complete have sometimes had trouble, but we've been able to solve those issues pretty quick.
If you grabbed the latest SVN snapshot, and Ruff's post about a possible bug applies only to the SVN version, you're drinking directly from the firehose! The SVN is our work in progress. I highly recommend sticking with 3.5.1 if you have a low tolerance for occasional hiccups.
Anyway, I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of your threads over the past two years. I'd be happy to help more if I can (feel free to PM me and we can IM to get it straightened out), but don't sweat it if you aren't interested at this time. I just hope we get a chance to redeem ourselves in the future.
I did try tweaking things, based on advice in this and other threads in this sub-forum, so maybe that caused issues. I really didn't like the terrain graphics in BAT (couldn't tell plains apart from grasslands--maybe because I have a partial red/green colour blindness?--and the water looked weird), so I renamed IG_v2.0.7.FPK as suggested in this thread. I also replaced both EventSigns.py and FavoriteCivDetector.py, as you recommended above, to get the "Regenerate Map" option back. So as I said, I had those severe stability issues with BAT, and when I tried just running BUG on its own, I had no interface.
I tried uninstalling/deleting both mods and reinstalling them (with the same tweaks again) and encountered the same problems. I retrieved my last save of the aforementioned game from the recycle bin and will hang on to it in hopes of either figuring this out myself or, failing that, installing the next version. Augustus was just starting to kick some tail.
A suggestion: perhaps the future installation and/or in-game options of BAT could be enhanced to allow for customization of things that I've seen others in addition to myself talking about on the board (e.g. turn off BAT terrain, restore original civ colours, etc.).
EmperorFool
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When I tried just running BUG on its own, I had no interface.
Are you using
- English Windows XP
- Standard Civ4 (vs. CivGold or CivComplete that contain all expansion packs in a single install)
These other things also require special attention by the user:
- Non-English characters in your user name (á, é, ü)
- Use Civ4's /AltRoot command-line feature
A suggestion: perhaps the future installation and/or in-game options of BAT could be enhanced to allow for customization of things that I've seen others in addition to myself talking about on the board (e.g. turn off BAT terrain, restore original civ colours, etc.).[/QUOTE]
Every feature in BUG is customizable and can be disabled, but that's easier to do in Python. The problem is the way Civ loads XML/graphics changes: if they are in the folder, they get loaded--no choice. We'd have to have the program move files around to get that to work. This is doable, but I have enough on my hands (
) just coding the Python stuff for BUG.BAT was just supposed to take BUG and add in some nice graphics mods for more diverse unit and building graphics. I also don't like the new terrain. Give me Blue Marble any day. I think Alerum agrees and said he's going to remove IG from the next BAT version.
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