Bug reports and technical issues
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I get that a lot too. Haven't noticed anything weird, though.
FinalLegendZero
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After some investigating, I have discovered that the following Civs start with the Standing Army civic in the 1700 scenario but do not have Military Tradition:
English
Portugese
Dutch
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Portugese
Dutch
SheaferDaDawg
Intelligent Canine
Any way to make it go away? It pops up every turn.
Chep
Emperor
it seems to pop up after you've been in anarchy. save & load solved this for me in most cases
SheaferDaDawg
Intelligent Canine
That would make sense, I had just switched civics. Thanks for the tip.
Chep
Emperor
minor things I noticed (SVN 599):
- Aztecs can't use Slaves as workers although description says otherwise
- Spain can't settle Slaves as specialists in American cities.
- Poland and Skandinavia don't count as "Europe" for the Protestantism-UHV of Spain
(why don't Spain and the Moors start at war with one another? Also, shouldn't Portugal count as "contested" for Spain?)
- why wouldn't my vasalls trade me techs when they're at friendly? (and it's not because they're building the wonder associated with the tech or something. Portugal/France wouldn't give me techs that more than half the world knew already)
- Aztecs can't use Slaves as workers although description says otherwise
- Spain can't settle Slaves as specialists in American cities.
- Poland and Skandinavia don't count as "Europe" for the Protestantism-UHV of Spain
(why don't Spain and the Moors start at war with one another? Also, shouldn't Portugal count as "contested" for Spain?)
- why wouldn't my vasalls trade me techs when they're at friendly? (and it's not because they're building the wonder associated with the tech or something. Portugal/France wouldn't give me techs that more than half the world knew already)
Chep
Emperor
presumed a bug:
- negative expansion modifiers stay, even if you lose/give away the cities that cause them
while not quite a "bug", this still needs fixing:
Tibet
they have 1 city that they are allowed to own and all others are at least foreign, if not foreign core. stability and the fact that for most of the time for UHV2 the Seljuk block your way towards Europe make them basically impossible.
I'd suggest allowing for a certain "non-core"-population in the stability formulas. something like "the 10 first citizen in non-core-territory don't affect stability" (4*corepop - 3* (foreignpop-10))
but even then...it would probably take a lot of dumb luck (or Marathon) to get UHV2 by conquering a city in Europe which then spawns buddhist missionaries...
- negative expansion modifiers stay, even if you lose/give away the cities that cause them
while not quite a "bug", this still needs fixing:
Tibet
they have 1 city that they are allowed to own and all others are at least foreign, if not foreign core. stability and the fact that for most of the time for UHV2 the Seljuk block your way towards Europe make them basically impossible.
I'd suggest allowing for a certain "non-core"-population in the stability formulas. something like "the 10 first citizen in non-core-territory don't affect stability" (4*corepop - 3* (foreignpop-10))
but even then...it would probably take a lot of dumb luck (or Marathon) to get UHV2 by conquering a city in Europe which then spawns buddhist missionaries...
Spain: are you running the appropriate civics (slavery, agriarianism or merchantilism)?
Portugal: Spain never controlled effectively Portugal. Moreover, if Portugal was historical for Spain, then Spain would found cities in its core area.
Moors: If they spawn at war Moors will be conquered in just one turn. There is no way to protect Codoba even for the hyman player.
Techs: Generallyt speaking AI don't want to trade with the human player. They know that the human player knows what he is doing.
The best to do with Tibet is to make Pagan, Pataliputra and Chengdu historical for them. An other option is to let room for two cities in the core area. On mongol and turkish spawn seljuks will collapse.
Chep
Emperor
yes, but by then you will have ~10-15 turns to fulfill the UHV, it is pretty damn impossible to wait for them destroy the Seljuks.
another option might be to change the defender in Mumbai from 2 Longbowmen to 1-2 Archers, so that the player can use this city to ferry missionaries past the Seljuks (who usually don't build boats).
but lets keep that discussion in the SVN-discussion-thread from here on
another option might be to change the defender in Mumbai from 2 Longbowmen to 1-2 Archers, so that the player can use this city to ferry missionaries past the Seljuks (who usually don't build boats).
but lets keep that discussion in the SVN-discussion-thread from here on
Chep
Emperor
sorry, didn't notice this one before:
Spain:
Running Agrarianism (somehow I didn't notice in the beginning that I wasn't in slavery and then I didn't want to change it any more) but not Mercantilism (trade routes to vasalls would also be stopped, right?)
I can use them for plantations, like I should but not as specialists in the cities.
Portugal:
I have to say, I'm definitely no expert on this but I remembered from RFCE that "Portugal was granted independence from Leon&Castilia", also Wikipedia says that Portugal was a vasall of Spain (Leon) untill 1139 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Portugal_(1139–1279)
sure, making it "historic" would be too much, but "contested" might fit, but I don't want to argue too much about it, next time I'll just burn Lisboa down
Moors:
Okay, I agree, that might be too tough, even if Cordoba started with walls or something similar, I have RFCE for this fight, so it's okay
Tech-trading:
usually the AI is willing to trade brand-new-monopoly-techs to you, if you're just friendly with them. I am not only friendly with these civs, they are my damn servants! they should do my bidding! seriously, though, why can I buy a tech from some asian civ who I am at "pleased" with, while my 2 friendly vasalls have it but don't want to sell it to me? (we all know Mansa trades everything, so I don't even count him)
Spain:
Running Agrarianism (somehow I didn't notice in the beginning that I wasn't in slavery and then I didn't want to change it any more) but not Mercantilism (trade routes to vasalls would also be stopped, right?)
I can use them for plantations, like I should but not as specialists in the cities.
Portugal:
I have to say, I'm definitely no expert on this but I remembered from RFCE that "Portugal was granted independence from Leon&Castilia", also Wikipedia says that Portugal was a vasall of Spain (Leon) untill 1139 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Portugal_(1139–1279)
sure, making it "historic" would be too much, but "contested" might fit, but I don't want to argue too much about it, next time I'll just burn Lisboa down
Moors:
Okay, I agree, that might be too tough, even if Cordoba started with walls or something similar, I have RFCE for this fight, so it's okay
Tech-trading:
usually the AI is willing to trade brand-new-monopoly-techs to you, if you're just friendly with them. I am not only friendly with these civs, they are my damn servants! they should do my bidding! seriously, though, why can I buy a tech from some asian civ who I am at "pleased" with, while my 2 friendly vasalls have it but don't want to sell it to me? (we all know Mansa trades everything, so I don't even count him)
ales_
Heir
An other option for Tibet: remove the city-counquering UHV.
Chep
Emperor
What do you mean? The ratings in your financial advisor reflect the outcome of the latest check, they aren't updated until the next occurs.
The second goal is about spreading Buddhism, you don't need to conquer cities for that.
Chep
Emperor
I stayed at -50 expansion even after researching a tech which should trigger a new check. But even though I was left with only my capitol the expansion modifier was still negative.
and...converting India, South-East Asia, China, Korea and Japan to Buddhism leads to ~27-28% (if you're lucky). but since the Seljuks block the "direct" route towards more cities to visit, you could try taking the way over Russia...but then even with 1missionary/turn it will be tough to get them somewhere before the time runs out. Additional cities would greatly help soften that problem - or a way to get missionaries to Europe in less than 20 turns.
The first UHV already specifies that you won't make it if you play OCC-style. you have to be picky/lucky with your cities, but no matter which ones you pick, they will cause negative expansion.
and...converting India, South-East Asia, China, Korea and Japan to Buddhism leads to ~27-28% (if you're lucky). but since the Seljuks block the "direct" route towards more cities to visit, you could try taking the way over Russia...but then even with 1missionary/turn it will be tough to get them somewhere before the time runs out. Additional cities would greatly help soften that problem - or a way to get missionaries to Europe in less than 20 turns.
The first UHV already specifies that you won't make it if you play OCC-style. you have to be picky/lucky with your cities, but no matter which ones you pick, they will cause negative expansion.
Seljuks will collapse around 1300AD (turkish spawn). Moreover keep some missionaries to spread to the most populous cities in Europe.
Chep
Emperor
on marathon it is no problem, there you only have the stability-issue, but on normal...it is still a very close call, if they destroyed some roads on the way, you won't make it (and the Arabs run fana)
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