Bug Reports and Technical Issues
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merijn_v1
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You can find the solution in the FAQ in the first post of this thread. (Bottom of the post)
Logoncal
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That's just Drill III. Nothing special
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
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To be fair, a battleship would be pretty effective against a horse.
need my speed
Rex Omnium Imperarium
Fear the Scottish unique unit; the Kelpie.
Visard
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_the_Dutch_fleet_at_Den_Helder
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/only-time-history-when-bunch-men-horseback-captured-naval-fleet-180961824/
"After an extraordinary charge across the frozen Zuiderzee, the French cavalry captured 14 Dutch ships and 850 guns. A capture of ships by horsemen is an extremely rare feat in military history."
Enyavar
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Hahaha!
Well, to balance things out and make Drill more useful for naval units, maybe Drill III could also provide a bonus against all types of ship that can't have cargo.
As direct combat between naval and land based units are not possible (right?), the description of DrIll III doesn't need to be changed. I don't see a bug there.
Well, to balance things out and make Drill more useful for naval units, maybe Drill III could also provide a bonus against all types of ship that can't have cargo.
As direct combat between naval and land based units are not possible (right?), the description of DrIll III doesn't need to be changed. I don't see a bug there.
Enyavar
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Iirc, a naval unit will be destroyed outright without save if it's in an unguarded fort. A naval unit cannot enter/combat forts with land unit guarding it.
This behavior is from vanilla bts and I haven't seen a change about it in the mod description, so I think it's still the same.
I think i remember that Knoedel did something about forts, though I'm pretty sure he also didn't add a more realistic naval/land interaction.
... imo amphibious land units should be able to hijack adjacent ships and gunpowder ships should be able to bombard adjacent land units. But I guess this behavior of integrated warfare is difficult to a) implement into the code and b) even more difficult to teach to the artificial nonintelligence as a tactic.
This behavior is from vanilla bts and I haven't seen a change about it in the mod description, so I think it's still the same.
I think i remember that Knoedel did something about forts, though I'm pretty sure he also didn't add a more realistic naval/land interaction.
... imo amphibious land units should be able to hijack adjacent ships and gunpowder ships should be able to bombard adjacent land units. But I guess this behavior of integrated warfare is difficult to a) implement into the code and b) even more difficult to teach to the artificial nonintelligence as a tactic.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
An non-violent display bug that is technically possible but very, very unlikely to occur.
The pedia of both the Highway and Railroad mention that an unit can move at most 10 tiles/turn. A 4-moves land unit can move 12 tiles on them. This situation is very unlikely because it is (without cheating) only possible by attaching a Great General to an Mongolian Keshik or Turkish Oghuz and give those units the Morale promotion.
The pedia of both the Highway and Railroad mention that an unit can move at most 10 tiles/turn. A 4-moves land unit can move 12 tiles on them. This situation is very unlikely because it is (without cheating) only possible by attaching a Great General to an Mongolian Keshik or Turkish Oghuz and give those units the Morale promotion.
Enyavar
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Do they really already move 12 tiles, or is this a suggestion that they should?
Spoiler Things I remember from playing RFC... :
Also, the gunship is a 4-move unit, too, and can also only cover 10 tiles on rails, afaiR.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
They really do. I did a small test before I posted it. (After studying the movement mechanics)
pippo84
Chieftain
i know. I suggested a different bonus tree for naval units. It's pointless having a bonus agaist land unit
Temujin8k
Fluyts, Grand Vizier of Your Mind
Maybe it's the promotion that allowed it to move 12 tiles. I agree with Enyavar too, though--regardless of how many tiles it can move elsewhere, railroads allow movement for only 10 tiles.
That would be weird, though. If a 4
unit can move 12 tiles along a road after Engineering, yet can only move 10 tiles along a railroad... to be fair, it can be imagined like this: The units ride embark on carriages, which move along railroads at a speed of 10 tiles, and then disembarking at the end of the move.
That would be weird, though. If a 4
unit can move 12 tiles along a road after Engineering, yet can only move 10 tiles along a railroad... to be fair, it can be imagined like this: The units ride embark on carriages, which move along railroads at a speed of 10 tiles, and then disembarking at the end of the move.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
Nope. The gunship can also travel 12 tiles on railroads. Just tested it.
Maybe it's the promotion that allowed it to move 12 tiles. I agree with Enyavar too, though--regardless of how many tiles it can move elsewhere, railroads allow movement for only 10 tiles.
That would be weird, though. If a 4
The code only looks at the actual movement points. It doesn't distinguish between natural movement points and movement points from promotion.
The reason that this phenomenon occurs is that the railroad also has hidden road capacities. It also multiplies the movement points by 3 for all units. It compares the road capabilities (movement multiplier) with the railroad capabilities (10 flat movement). It uses the method that brings you the furthest.
IIRC, it can be solved by removing the movement multiplier from railroads. (I didn't test this yet, but it should work in theory)
The actual implementation of movement is different, but it has the effect above.
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1SDANi
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They're trying to fix the problem where railroads say units can move a max of 10 tiles but some can move 12. A slight tweak to the railroad description should fix this.
Sinsyne
Up is down,black is white
My cultural borders seem strangely reluctant to cover the silver in the BFC. My best guess is it has something to do with the water in-between, that's the only way I see that particular city spot standing out.
Uses the git that was current three days ago.
