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BasketCase
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Try deep-fried with Tartar sauce.
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They're all old and stringy.
Yep.
And do you agree that they suck whether its the Dems or Repubs putting up "free speech zones"?
The people of the United States have the right to protest at a public speaking event. They have the right to protest along the route presidential motorcade follows. The courts have pretty much consistently ruled that the Secret Service can't make people leave just because they don't approve of what the person is saying (or what sign or other non-violent protest he might have).
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That's what I came here to say. amadeus was quick to accuse the Democruds of doing it, but has nothing to say to condemn it.
dh_epic
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If you're being civil in a public place, I don't see what the problem is. How does somebody carrying a sign on public property hurt anybody, except to force them to deal with somebody they disagree with?
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MobBoss
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But they dont have a right to disrupt it. If you think the two are the same, your're wrong.
warpus
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Wearing an anti-bush t-shirt is disruptive?
Only when the President is giving a 4th of July speech about freedom of speech, like in this case.
GenMarshall
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Wearing an anti-Bush T-shirt when youre just their minding your own business is disruptive? Or even holding a book that criticizes the Bush administration and not reading it outloud disruptive?
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Japanrocks12
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agree here. I'm all for allowing the public voice to be heard, but that doesn't mean interrupting speakers at major speeches just so your smart-ass comment can be heard. That is why the questioning period is there.
Japanrocks12
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But I'm opposed to the fact that this extends to only when he's around. It should be when any major politician is campaigning and/or speaking publicly
amadeus
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Largely, yes.
I say that because I don't want protesters coming around and disrupting whatever it is that they're trying to protest.
Well, I think its one thing to, say, bar them at the door and another all-together to restrict protest to some 100 x 100 grid 5 miles from the route. Obviously, I'm stretching the point, but I think you get my meaning.
dh_epic
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Yeah. I think it's reasonable to maybe throw a person out of a public space because they are being unnecessarily loud or belligerent. But holding a sign or wearing a t-shirt shouldn't give them the right to throw you out -- no matter who you're protesting.
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So what, exactly, gives Bush such a special right to be heard that protesters are being denied? It seems to me that your logic completely justifies protesting at his speeches, as then, no one is heard, and no one's rights are infringed upon.
BasketCase
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You read my post wrong.
Nothing gives Bush any special right to be heard. Nor do the protesters have any special right to be heard.
It's called "Freedom of Speech".
Any anti-Bush protester can say "I hate Bush" anywhere he likes. Why do you think those protesters try to hold their gatherings close to George Bush's gatherings? Because they're trying specifically to shut him up.
George Bush has the right to speak without being muzzled. And a protest is a muzzle. It's an attempt to drown out the other guy.
Nothing gives Bush any special right to be heard. Nor do the protesters have any special right to be heard.
It's called "Freedom of Speech".
Any anti-Bush protester can say "I hate Bush" anywhere he likes. Why do you think those protesters try to hold their gatherings close to George Bush's gatherings? Because they're trying specifically to shut him up.
George Bush has the right to speak without being muzzled. And a protest is a muzzle. It's an attempt to drown out the other guy.
