Bz2 - 5CC Overdrive

[Snaproll]

I'll be gone from July 1st until Monday, July 7th. I doubt my turn will come up again, but if it does I just wanted to warn you!

 

[Earp]

0 - 630 AD
Change Iznik's production to pike
Upgrade four horses to knights
Move troops towards Zulu town of Isandhiwana

1 - 640 AD
Istanbul Knight --> Catapult
Iznik Pike --> Catapult
Vet knight defeats elite archer near Isandhiwana

2 - 650 AD
Edrine Knight-->Catapult
Uskudar Knight --> Pike
Istanbul Cat --> Pike
Iznik Cat --> Pike
Attack Isandhiwana
Vet MDI vs vet pike we lose
Vet MDI vs reg musket we redline musket, but lose
Vet knight vs 3/4 pike. We redline and retreat
Vet knight vs 3/4 pike. We redline and retreat
Vet knight vs 3/4 pike. We win
Vet knight vs 2/4 musket. We win
Vet knight vs reg Impi. We win
We raze Isandhiwana and pillage both dyes.
I disband five workers in Uskudar so that it will finish its pike in one turn. This was probably , but we have so many workers running around, I wanted to see if this would work. We waste lots of shields by building pikes.

3 - 660 AD
Edrine Catapult --> Pike
Uskudar Pike--> Knight

Babylonian city of Ellipi finishes Bach's.

4 - 670 AD
Istanbul Pike --> Knight
Edrine Pike --> Knight
Bursa Coloseum --> Courthouse
Iznik Pike --> Knight
Well tell Hammurabi to remove his troops from our territory and he decides to declare war.
Bombard knight by Uskudar
Vet knight vs reg knight. We win
Reg MDI vs 3/4 knight. We lose
Vet knight vs 2/4 knight. We win and promote
Vet MDI vs reg knight. We win
Bombard reg knight on mountain.
Vet knight vs 2/3 knight on mountain. We redline knight but lose.
MDI vs 2/4 knight. We lose
Vet horse vs 1/4 knight. We win and promote to elite.
Vet knight vs vet knight. We win w/o losing a hp
Vet knight vs reg knight. We win w/o losing a hp
Vet knight vs reg longbow on hill. We win w/o losing a hp
Vet knight vs reg knight. We win

IBT Montezuma demands iron. We laugh at him at he backs down.
Arabia and the Zulus sign a peace treaty.

5 - 680 AD
MDI vs reg spear. We lose.
Elite knight vs reg spear in Hidana. We win and autoraze Hidana.
We found a colony on our Saltpeter near Bursa.
Elite knight vs 2/3 reg spear. We win.
Upgrade five pikes to muskets.
We move five knights next to Shaka's capital of Zimbabwe. He will not give us Chemistry, Banking, and Astronomy for peace. We take 3G, WM, Chemistry, Astronomy, Printing Press, and Music Theory for peace.
Turn off luxury slider.

6 - 690 AD
Elite horse vs reg longbow. We win
Elite knight vs reg longbow. We win
We defeat three knights and raze Cempoala. This is a former Aztec city that Babylon had captured.

7 - 700 AD
Istanbul Musket--> Knight
Iznik Knight --> Knight
Uskudar Knight --> Knight
Begin assault of the incense city of Ellipi. We capture the city after defeating three pikes and raze it and Bach's cathedral.
Our first leader Orhan is born.
Several civs now need incense. They must have been getting it from Hammurabi.
Persia will give us wines for incense and 2 gpt.

IBT Hiawatha demands our TM and 21 gold. I give in. It looks like we'll be fighting the Iroquois soon.

8 - 710 AD
Edrine Knight --> Knight
Orhan builds an army to soon be filled with Sipahi.
We raze Shuruppak, which had settled, near our second source of saltpeter.
We raze Tell Wilaya.

9 - 720 AD
Organize troops.
Istanbul switched to a colosseum.

10 - 730 AD
Bursa Courthouse --> knight
Uskudar musket --> knight
Iznik knight --> knight

I am trying to build a road to the Gems north of Uskudar for a colony, but I think the Iroquois are going to send a settler to this location.

I was planning on taking Kish before giving Hammurabi peace, but I'll leave that decision to the next leader. Our troops are healing in Iznik.

The SAVE

It looks like Betazed and I may be finishing this by ourselves.

 

[betazed]

Got it. Will play tonight.

 

[Earp]

Where did CivGeneral go? Does he still want to join?

 

[GenMarshall]

Im still here

 

[Earp]

CivGeneral, do you want to play after betazed finishes his turns tonight?

 

[betazed]

I started playing. Then two knights died while attacking just one kinght on a plain. Disgusted I stopped. Will play sometime again tonight.

 

[betazed]

ok. I played toay morning. Here is the save.

didn't get a chance to write the turn report before leaving for work. I will do so during the day. Here it is briefly.

(a) We have learned Banking, Physics, Mettalurgy, Magnetism, ToG, Navigation, Democracy and Steam Power. Hence we are in a new age. Of all these techs only one has been payed with cold hard cash. Others have been pounded out or traded.

(b) We have coal in our territory and I can see a couple in border towns.

(c) We have saltpeter in our territory now owing to border expansion.

(d) Still no MT. Nobody has it.

(e) I was hoping that when we go to the new age we will get Nationalism. That has such an excellent trading value. But no such luck. We got steam power instead. The Babs are the only ones who has nationalism.


Be careful with the save. I did a lot of trades this turn. I am not sure we have exhausted all trade oppurtunities. I had automated the workers since there was nothing for them to do. Coal is being connected now. Once that is done there will be work for the workers. So unautomate them before you go to next turn.

I will try to write a more detailed writeup during the day.

 

[Earp]

Good job betazed. It sounds like it is time to railroad the nation. How far did you push the war against Hammurabi? Can we renegotiate peace with the Zulu? Did you switch to Democracy? So many questions.

CivGeneral, can you take the save?

 

[betazed]

730 AD: Attack regular Bab knight on plain with vet knight and die. Attack the knight (2 hp now) with vet knight and die . Attack the 1hp knight now with elite knight and finally kill him.

Fortify the rest of the knights and let them heal. We have so many workers. And there is not a single tile that is being worked on that we can improve. So I am setting them to automate, except the ones that are connecting to gems.

740 AD: We move into Bab territory.

750 AD: Bab city razed. He will give us Physics but not Physics and Banking. We'll wait. Gems are connected. Some skirmishes. We lose one knight. Hammi loses quite a few. Our military is still average compared to theirs.

760 AD: Kill a few more Baby knights.

IT: Iro's stat newtons's. Oooooh! That means we are pretty behind in tech. Buy Physics from Zulu for 500G. Peace with Baby. He gives us ToG in return. Sell Tog to get that 500G from Zulu. We also sell it around and get Banking, navigation and Democracy. I know we do not need these techs, but they will be traded anyway.


770 AD: Consolidate. I start some universities. If we need to self-research sometime later these should help. We connect ivory beside the ruins of the baby city. This will not be there for long, since the Iro's and the Zulus and the Baby's are heading for it but we can hold onto it for a while.

IT: No more Monty. The Zulus have wiped them out.

780 AD: Border expands to bring in saltpeter and another iron within our territory.

790 AD:

800 AD: Now Mettalurgy is available. I'll wait till there is something else for a 2'fer.

IT: Persia and Arabia sign PT. Abu wants 33g for Peace. In any other scenario, Abu would have regretted this move and I would have made him eat his beard, but this time I back down. {I will not be able to sleep well tonight. As far as my memory goes this is the first time I have backed down from a threat, while playing on Emperor. }

830 AD: Universities finish. I start some banks. We need cash. Iro settle on the gems and kick us out.

840 AD: Now Magnetism is also available. Xerses, Hammi and Abe are in the new age. I buy Magnetism from Xerses for 500G and 46G/turn. Sell it to Iro for Mettalurgy. We are in a new age. We get steam power. I sell that to Hammi for some gold and 56g/turn. I have to do it otherwise somebody else will do it and make the money. Still not Military Tradition.

Arabia is still in the middle ages. I think Arabia is the civ who is researching MT. Watch him like a hawk. We need to buy it the moment it is there. We can self-research it too in about 10 turns, but that will do havoc to our treasury.

There is coal in out territory. Once again remember to unautomate the workers before you go to the next turn.

 

[betazed]

Originally posted by Earp
Good job betazed. It sounds like it is time to railroad the nation. How far did you push the war against Hammurabi? Can we renegotiate peace with the Zulu? Did you switch to Democracy? So many questions.

CivGeneral, can you take the save?

I pushed the war as far as I could. I razed just one city, the ivory city, but Hammi kept throwing knights at me. Since he was attacking across rivers, he lost most of them. But I was never healed enough to attack his capital. I took the safe way out and went for peace catching up in tech.

We are at peace with Zulu. So why renegotiate?

No, I do not think we can afford a 6 turn loss in production, IMHO. Plus, the WW of democracy will really hurt.

I will be on vacation starting tomorrow morning, returning on Sunday night. {My ideal vacation would have staying at home, watching movies, programming and playing civ3. However, that would make wifey crazy. What can I say? }

EDIT: There is too much peace among the AI for our benefit. We need to get some world wars going once we get MT.

 

[betazed]

So who's next? Earp? CivGeneral?

 

[Earp]

We are at peace with Zulu. So why renegotiate?

If our power is higher, we might be able to renegotiate peace and get more out of them. I was reading about this yesterday on this trading practice thread

I agree that we need to get the other civs to begin fighting each other. I think our next target should be Hiawatha after we get MT. I do not think we have any gpt deals with him.

I don't know who is next. I may play or I might wait for CivGeneral to play.

CivGeneral, post an 'I got it' if you want to play.

 

[GenMarshall]

Here is my Ive Got it . Ill post the results and Save ASAP .

 

[Tsukemono5]

Yo. What's been going on? I'm back and ready to play.

 

[Earp]

Everyone seems to be on vacation. I think CivGeneral is playing. He posted the 'Ive got it' above a little over 48 hours ago. You can play after him when he posts the save.

 

[betazed]

Ok. I am back. Surprised that no progress has been made on this game since I left. That is more than 60 hours ago. Civgeneral has not played yet.

@Tsuke: If he does not play by tomorrow morning, then you should take it and keep the ball rolling.

 

[Snaproll]

I'm back too - please put me back in the lineup!

 

[Earp]

It is now the 7th and CivGeneral hasn't posted since the 3rd. Maybe he is having computer/internet problems? I think Tsuk should take the game with Snaproll on the deck.

Here are my comments after reviewing the save last night,
Fire entertainer in Istanbul. Move citizen from 2.2.2 mined BG to 1.3.2 mined hill to get to +0fpt and 24spt
MM Iznik to gain 1 shield for 1 gold and maintain +0fpt
Stop 6 slaves clearing jungle south of coal and move them north. Take all other workers off automatic.

 

[betazed]

I have updated the roster in the first post. My hands are itching to play my turn on this game, considering the critical situation we are in right now. RailRoad, Toe.... So many new developments to come.

Owing to lack of response, Civgeneral is skipped till he responds again.

SnapRoll, Tsuke either of you two can play. Just post a "got it" and play your turns. If SnapRoll plays first then Tsuke can play after that and vice versa.

Let's keep this game moving.

P.S. Whoever plays, just make sure you see and follow Earp's advice in the post above. IMHO, they are very relevant.