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I think Drugtrade needs a new quote, too.
Plus a new pedia also, i didnt realize at the time it was for NON legal drugs
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Plus a new pedia also, i didnt realize at the time it was for NON legal drugs
Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
I suggest this quote for Andeanism:
"As for my beliefs, I will not change them... My God still looks down on His children".
Atahualpa, the 'last' Inca emperor, (as found on indigenouspeople.net)
See what you think of these:
Poultry Domestication:
Alas! my child, where is the Pen
That can do justice to the Hen?
Like Royalty, she goes her way,
Laying foundations every day,
Though not for Public Buildings, yet
For Custard, Cake and Omelette.
[Or if too old for such a use
They have their fling at some abuse
As when to censure Plays Unfit
Upon the stage they make a Hit
Or at elections seal the Fate
Of an Obnoxious Candidate.]
No wonder, Child, we prize the Hen,
Whose Egg is Mightier than the Pen
The Hen, by Oliver Herford (from chicken poems on tastearts.com)
Falconry:
Hec vero venatio instrumentis predictis non utitur neque animalibus quadrupedibus modo dictis, sed ad acquisitionem finis habet aves rapaces, que etiam inanimatis instrumentis et quadrupedibus illis nobiliores sunt
Rough translation (believe me I tried):
Thus truly the hunt may use the aforementioned tools, or four-footed animals, but at the acquisition of birds of prey, this cannot continue, as they [the birds] are nobler than inanimate instruments and those other beasts.
From De Arte Venandi cum Avibus (On The Art of Hunting with Birds), by Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II (1194-1250)
Camel Domestication:
"The fact is that camels are far more intelligent than dolphins So they long ago plumped for a lifestyle that, in return for a certain amount of porterage and being prodded with sticks, allowed them adequate food and grooming and the chance to spit in a human's eye and get away with it.
― Terry Pratchett, Pyramids
Orchards:
"Thou didst create the night, but I made the lamp. Thou didst create clay, but I made the cup. Thou didst create the deserts, mountains and forests, I produced the orchards, gardens and groves." Allama Iqbal (Indian poet, 1877-1938)
Spice Trade:
"For Christ and spice." Supposed warcry of Da Gamas crew when first they landed in India (from Wikipedia)
Sericulture:
With time and patience the mulberry leaf becomes a silk gown Chinese proverb (from searchquotes)
Lead Working:
"many thousand people are dailie imployed in the lead mynes, to the greatt proffitt of your Majestie ... and to the whole Comonwealth ... in getting greatt quantities of lead for the use of the Kingdome in generall, and in transporting the rest to forraigne Nations..." from a petition presented to King Charles I of England (found in Wikipedia article: Derbyshire lead mining history)
Surveying:
"There are many arts and sciences of which a miner should not be ignorant. Fourthly, there is the science of Surveying that he may be able to estimate how deep a shaft should be sunk ..." Georgius Agricola, De Re Metallica (1556)
Salt Processing:
"Salt is born of the purest of parents: the sun and the sea." Pythagoras
Sundial:
"Nota bene horas: Omnes vulnerant, ultima necat." ("Mark well the hours: All of them wound, and the last kills.") A Latin aphorism sometimes engraved on sundials. (from Wikipedia: List of Sundial Mottoes)
"As for my beliefs, I will not change them... My God still looks down on His children".
Atahualpa, the 'last' Inca emperor, (as found on indigenouspeople.net)
See what you think of these:
Poultry Domestication:
Alas! my child, where is the Pen
That can do justice to the Hen?
Like Royalty, she goes her way,
Laying foundations every day,
Though not for Public Buildings, yet
For Custard, Cake and Omelette.
[Or if too old for such a use
They have their fling at some abuse
As when to censure Plays Unfit
Upon the stage they make a Hit
Or at elections seal the Fate
Of an Obnoxious Candidate.]
No wonder, Child, we prize the Hen,
Whose Egg is Mightier than the Pen
The Hen, by Oliver Herford (from chicken poems on tastearts.com)
Falconry:
Hec vero venatio instrumentis predictis non utitur neque animalibus quadrupedibus modo dictis, sed ad acquisitionem finis habet aves rapaces, que etiam inanimatis instrumentis et quadrupedibus illis nobiliores sunt
Rough translation (believe me I tried):
Thus truly the hunt may use the aforementioned tools, or four-footed animals, but at the acquisition of birds of prey, this cannot continue, as they [the birds] are nobler than inanimate instruments and those other beasts.
From De Arte Venandi cum Avibus (On The Art of Hunting with Birds), by Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II (1194-1250)
Camel Domestication:
"The fact is that camels are far more intelligent than dolphins So they long ago plumped for a lifestyle that, in return for a certain amount of porterage and being prodded with sticks, allowed them adequate food and grooming and the chance to spit in a human's eye and get away with it.
― Terry Pratchett, Pyramids
Orchards:
"Thou didst create the night, but I made the lamp. Thou didst create clay, but I made the cup. Thou didst create the deserts, mountains and forests, I produced the orchards, gardens and groves." Allama Iqbal (Indian poet, 1877-1938)
Spice Trade:
"For Christ and spice." Supposed warcry of Da Gamas crew when first they landed in India (from Wikipedia)
Sericulture:
With time and patience the mulberry leaf becomes a silk gown Chinese proverb (from searchquotes)
Lead Working:
"many thousand people are dailie imployed in the lead mynes, to the greatt proffitt of your Majestie ... and to the whole Comonwealth ... in getting greatt quantities of lead for the use of the Kingdome in generall, and in transporting the rest to forraigne Nations..." from a petition presented to King Charles I of England (found in Wikipedia article: Derbyshire lead mining history)
Surveying:
"There are many arts and sciences of which a miner should not be ignorant. Fourthly, there is the science of Surveying that he may be able to estimate how deep a shaft should be sunk ..." Georgius Agricola, De Re Metallica (1556)
Salt Processing:
"Salt is born of the purest of parents: the sun and the sea." Pythagoras
Sundial:
"Nota bene horas: Omnes vulnerant, ultima necat." ("Mark well the hours: All of them wound, and the last kills.") A Latin aphorism sometimes engraved on sundials. (from Wikipedia: List of Sundial Mottoes)
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Poultry Domestication is way too long. All quotes should be around a sentence or 2.
mykeedee
Warlord
This one would work for either a space colonization tech or just plain Imperialism:
The world is nearly all parcelled out, and what there is left of it is being divided up, conquered and colonised. To think of these stars that you see overhead at night, these vast worlds which we can never reach. I would annex the planets if I could; I often think of that. It makes me sad to see them so clear and yet so far.
- Cecil Rhodes
The world is nearly all parcelled out, and what there is left of it is being divided up, conquered and colonised. To think of these stars that you see overhead at night, these vast worlds which we can never reach. I would annex the planets if I could; I often think of that. It makes me sad to see them so clear and yet so far.
- Cecil Rhodes
Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
Just use the first six lines then - that's two sentences. You can't cut it down any more than that.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
Is anyone actually converting these suggestions into XML? There have been a few here for quite awhile but the SVN still has "to be done" or equivalent in the quote.
Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
I've never modded before but I could probably manage that.
1. Get the latest SVN
2. Edit the XML file (which one?)
3. Upload it for someone else to commit?
If that's correct and you're happy for me to do it, let me know which XML file it is.
If there is more than one suggested quote for a tech, I will wait for consensus.
I found a file called RoM_GameText_Civilopedia_Quotes.xml: is that the correct one?
ETA: I found the TechnologyQuotes.xml, but there are a few xmls containing quotes, so let me know which existing one to use, or whether to create my own.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
I have a shorter quote for Poultry Domestication.
Poultry Domestication
"I don't want to be a pie, I don't like gravy." - Chicken Run
I even have a sound quote.
Link to video.
Poultry Domestication
"I don't want to be a pie, I don't like gravy." - Chicken Run
I even have a sound quote.
Link to video.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
You can probably refer to the techinfos.xml file to see the text calls associated with the quotes on each tech. Then, you can search for the call reference (something like TXT_KEY_TECH_QUOTE_CAVALRY_TACTICS) among the text documents. The name of the document is really completely meaningless in any way except to help modders organize things (loosely!)
Now, it should be worthy of note that there are actually 4 places where we have text documents that may be referenced in the file set and the way to handle a change is different based on where the text file is that contains the current reference. You have text documents in our own Assets/XML/Text and when you find the reference among those documents, you can probably just go ahead and actually edit the text there under that reference call.
However, there are also docs in Warlords/Assets/XML/Text, BeyondtheSword/Assets/XML/Text, and CivilizationIV/Assets/XML/Text that can all be called on from the mod too. Don't replace those. Just change the Tech to seek a new, similarly but differently named reference, then go in and add a whole new text reference in the most appropriate seeming text doc in our mod and fill in the text you want it to display there.
You CAN just add a new text reference with the same name in our mod files and it should look at that and use it first over any of the more foundational text files in the other folders but I don't like the idea that it could cause anything funny in processing so I just prefer to make a new one for our mod when necessary.
Does this all make sense? (Your help would be appreciated and starting with text modding would have to be the easiest starting point for a learning modder for sure!)
Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
If you're using one from Chicken Run, I think this one is better:
Ginger: So laying eggs all your life and then getting plucked, stuffed and roasted is good enough for you, is it?
Babs: It's a living.
Because it talks about the elements of domestication ie. eggs and meat, whereas 'pie' and 'gravy' are far more tenuously linked to it.
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
Can someone PLEASE do a new MP3 for Skinning, i dislike that one ALOT.
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Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
oh and can someone explain to me how the youtube button works...
Ok so YouTube usually has an address like this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVSFhBncBTU
All you put is the ...
KVSFhBncBTU
When putting it between the
Link to video.
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Link to video. like this??wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>
Link to video. like this?>Link to video.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Yup. 
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Bumping for SilentConfusion.
SilentConfusion
Emperor
We need some quotes for the following (mostly religious techs), so please feel free to post quotes for any of these.
Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
Kemetism:
May the sun in heaven be favourable to thee; may he cause the two lords to be favourable to thee.
May the night be favourable to thee; may the two ladies be favourable to thee.
Utterance 44 of The Pyramid Texts (found at sacred-texts.com)
Ngaiism:
Ngai cannot be seen by mortal eyes It is only when humans are in real need that they must approach him without fear of disturbing him and incurring his wrath.
Jomo Kenyatta, 'Kikuyu Religion, Ancestor-worship, and Sacrificial Practices.'
(found at mircea-eliade.com)
Asatru:
"No man lives till eve whom the Norns doom at dawning."
-Anglo Saxon Poem (found at cauldronborn.blogspot.com.au)
Zoroastrianism:
Now the two primal Spirits, who reveal themselves in
vision as Twins, are the Better and the Bad, in
thought and word and action. Between these two the
wise ones chose aright; the foolish not so.
Zoroaster (c.628 - c.551)
(found at http://blog.gaiam.com/quotes/authors/Zoroaster)
Andeanism:
O Pachacamac!
Thou who hast existed from the beginning,
Thou who shalt exist until the end,
powerful but merciful
Give us life everlasting,
preserve us, and accept this our sacrifice.
(from sacred-texts.com)
Nagualism:
Then Tepeu and Gucumatz came together; then they conferred about life and light, what they would do so that there would be light and dawn Thus let it be done! Let the emptiness be filled! Let the water recede and make a void, let the earth appear and become solid; let it be done. Thus they spoke. (from the Popol Vuh)
(found at wikipedia)
Buddhism:
"Buddham saranam gacchāmi
Dhammam saranam gacchāmi
Sangham saranam gacchāmi"
Translation: "I seek refuge in the Buddha.
I seek refuge in the Dharma (doctrine).
I seek refuge in the Sangha (community of believers/seekers)"
Burmese Pali version of the refuge formula reciting this formula makes one a Buddhist (found at wikipedia)
Sikhism:
"Meditation of the Lord is the highest of the deeds, through which myriads obtain release, , through which one becomes all knowing, through which the dirt of the mind is cleansed and the Nectar of the Name of God is absorbed in the mind" (Guru Nanak, Gauri Sukhmani)
(found at Sikhs.org)
Jainism:
This is the quintessence of wisdom; not to kill anything This is the pure unchangeable Law. Therefore, cease to injure living things. Yogashastra (Jain Scripture) (c. 500 BC)
(found at goodreads.com)
Voodoo:
Asaka, build me a garden
Please Agwe, dont flood my garden
Erzulie, who will my love be?
Papa Ge, dont come around me
from the musical, Once on This Island, lyrics by Lynn Ahrens
Taoism:
Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is the true power. from the Tao Te Ching, by Lao Tzu
Islam:
Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (Quran 112:1-4)
Bahai:
O God! Grant Thy favour, and bestow Thy blessing. Vouchsafe Thy grace, and give a portion of Thy bounty Send down Thy heavenly rain, and provide Thy plenteousness and abundance. (Abdul-Bahá)
Mummification:
Therefore, many of the Egyptians, keeping the bodies of their ancestors in fine chambers, can behold at a glance those who died before they themselves were born...." Diodorus Siculus (found at http://www.mummytombs.com/egypt/diodorus.htm)
Failed to find one for "Drying". Let me know if you want me to keep looking.
The bracketed bits with "found at..." of course don't go in the game. I put them there so others could judge the quality of the source (although you can take it from me they're all pretty decent
).
May the sun in heaven be favourable to thee; may he cause the two lords to be favourable to thee.
May the night be favourable to thee; may the two ladies be favourable to thee.
Utterance 44 of The Pyramid Texts (found at sacred-texts.com)
Ngaiism:
Ngai cannot be seen by mortal eyes It is only when humans are in real need that they must approach him without fear of disturbing him and incurring his wrath.
Jomo Kenyatta, 'Kikuyu Religion, Ancestor-worship, and Sacrificial Practices.'
(found at mircea-eliade.com)
Asatru:
"No man lives till eve whom the Norns doom at dawning."
-Anglo Saxon Poem (found at cauldronborn.blogspot.com.au)
Zoroastrianism:
Now the two primal Spirits, who reveal themselves in
vision as Twins, are the Better and the Bad, in
thought and word and action. Between these two the
wise ones chose aright; the foolish not so.
Zoroaster (c.628 - c.551)
(found at http://blog.gaiam.com/quotes/authors/Zoroaster)
Andeanism:
O Pachacamac!
Thou who hast existed from the beginning,
Thou who shalt exist until the end,
powerful but merciful
Give us life everlasting,
preserve us, and accept this our sacrifice.
(from sacred-texts.com)
Nagualism:
Then Tepeu and Gucumatz came together; then they conferred about life and light, what they would do so that there would be light and dawn Thus let it be done! Let the emptiness be filled! Let the water recede and make a void, let the earth appear and become solid; let it be done. Thus they spoke. (from the Popol Vuh)
(found at wikipedia)
Buddhism:
"Buddham saranam gacchāmi
Dhammam saranam gacchāmi
Sangham saranam gacchāmi"
Translation: "I seek refuge in the Buddha.
I seek refuge in the Dharma (doctrine).
I seek refuge in the Sangha (community of believers/seekers)"
Burmese Pali version of the refuge formula reciting this formula makes one a Buddhist (found at wikipedia)
Sikhism:
"Meditation of the Lord is the highest of the deeds, through which myriads obtain release, , through which one becomes all knowing, through which the dirt of the mind is cleansed and the Nectar of the Name of God is absorbed in the mind" (Guru Nanak, Gauri Sukhmani)
(found at Sikhs.org)
Jainism:
This is the quintessence of wisdom; not to kill anything This is the pure unchangeable Law. Therefore, cease to injure living things. Yogashastra (Jain Scripture) (c. 500 BC)
(found at goodreads.com)
Voodoo:
Asaka, build me a garden
Please Agwe, dont flood my garden
Erzulie, who will my love be?
Papa Ge, dont come around me
from the musical, Once on This Island, lyrics by Lynn Ahrens
Taoism:
Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is the true power. from the Tao Te Ching, by Lao Tzu
Islam:
Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (Quran 112:1-4)
Bahai:
O God! Grant Thy favour, and bestow Thy blessing. Vouchsafe Thy grace, and give a portion of Thy bounty Send down Thy heavenly rain, and provide Thy plenteousness and abundance. (Abdul-Bahá)
Mummification:
Therefore, many of the Egyptians, keeping the bodies of their ancestors in fine chambers, can behold at a glance those who died before they themselves were born...." Diodorus Siculus (found at http://www.mummytombs.com/egypt/diodorus.htm)
Failed to find one for "Drying". Let me know if you want me to keep looking.
The bracketed bits with "found at..." of course don't go in the game. I put them there so others could judge the quality of the source (although you can take it from me they're all pretty decent
).
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Well done Yudishtira! Though I think whoever is reading those might need some help with the phonetically correct pronunciation.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
I've done the religion ones.
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