C2C - Transhuman Era

Hydromancerx · Aug 24, 2013

MrAzure said:
Fire Engineering Service or Hi-Tech Fire Station or Fire Monitoring Station
Req teach: Biomechanical Harvesting AND Ecological Engineering and Automatic Traffic
Req Building: Fire Station and and Unmanned Air Vehicle Factory and Electric Recharging Station
Req Resources:Fuel Cell and Unmanned Aircrafts
Req City Size:13
Cost: ????
Req Power: Yes
Upgrades To: -
Obsolete Tech: None

-45
+ 4 and + 4
+2 with Public Works
-??? Flammability

Change Stats, you know your Fire Mod
+1 with Augmented Reality
+1 with Holographics
+1 with Wireless Electricity
+1 with Miltary Robotics
+ 1 with Androids
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We could also add in a nearby Tech:

1. Ordinance (Automated Fire Monitoring ) Fire Sensors in every building link to fire station via wireless and deliver real updates of fire, CO2 levels, Carbon Monoxide levels.

2. If not Ordinance we could make a building called Fire Sensors that replace Smoke Alarms.

3. We could make a buiding called Firefighter Bots and another Firefighter Androids.

4. I don't really know how Ordinances work, but we should have an Automated Fire Monitoring.

How do you see this relating to Disaster Robots tech? Seems like much of this would fall under that tech rather than Unmanned Aircrafts.

Azurian · Aug 24, 2013

Brainstorming
Biological Path (part 1)
Nueroscience Center (Already Added)
Systems Biology Lab (Already added)
Aeroponics Farm Molecular Medicine
Binary Aurals Store Microgenerators
Binary Vison Store Nanogenerators
Tissue Engineering Studio Molecular Medicine
Tattoo Biosensor Store Microgenrators
Computational Neurocenter Exocortex Networks
Chemosynthenetic PlantsArtificial Photosynthesis
Surrogate Store Cryogenetics

Azurian · Aug 24, 2013

Hydromancerx said:
How do you see this relating to Disaster Robots tech? Seems like much of this would fall under that tech rather than Unmanned Aircrafts.

Sounds good to me, we can require a service bot factory. How do you feel about Fire Sensors replacing Smoke Alarm building?

Hydromancerx · Aug 24, 2013

MrAzure said:
How do you feel about Fire Sensors replacing Smoke Alarm building?

I think its a good idea. I don't think it has anything depending upon it so it should be easy to replace without conflicts.

Azurian · Aug 24, 2013

Medical

Diagnostics

Building|Tech|Description|Required For??
MRI Scanner |Genetics|won the 2003 Nobel Prize (1980s commercialized)|Bioinfomatics Buildings, Exoplanet,Astrobiology Spectrometry
Anatomy amd Physiology Visualizer|Molecular Medicine| http://www.visiblebody.com/ |Requires Systems Biology Smilutalor
Medical Tricoder|Personalized Health| More advanced version of the MRI, seraches the cloud for diagnosis|Requires Anatomy amd Physiology Visualizer|Requires Anatomy amd Physiology Visualizer + Neuroscience Center
Autodoctor| Automated services|A medical telefactoring device; allows a physician to remotely examine patients and perform basic procedures.|Requires Medical Tricoder
Medical Diagnostat|Cyberimmuniology|Diagnose and treat most human and veterinary ailments of organic life. [not android or cyborg]| Prometheus movie where it takes the baby alien from the wombs. Requires Autodoctor
Anima Chamber| Artificial Life| Can scan "Animas" for defects [designed genomes, Latin for life], can scan the genome and amino acids to detect aliments and cure most diseases and nanobot viruses in hours. Can fix cyborgs and androids. requires cybernetic organs. Can cure most intensiveness care injuries by growing back organs/ nanobot organelle hives. wil require Amino Computing Tech. (not added)

Mental Health

Building|Tech|Description|Required For??
Stimpacks |Personalized Health | Capsules of synthesised adrenaline, aggression hormones, and strong painkillers. They are used by Marines, Marauders, and Firebats to temporarily increase their speed and rate of fire. If a limb is severed, their powered armour injects a dose into the area.
Neuron Regenerator|Exocortex Networks|electrical headset device cures homicidal , suicidal, and violent urges by rearranging neurons in specific brain with electrical, magnetic, and emp forces.| Cloud Atlas movie,
Neurotransmitter Manipulator |Cyberimuniology|Adjust natural temperament and personalty of organisms permanently, and can "design" new biotech enhanced psychoactives. with a binary version for androids. Binary Psychoactive are biotech nanobots that mimic and greatly enhance drugs and with Somatosensory Manipulator truely feel you are in another world with artificial senses. New TEchnology Branch called Cyber Counterculture possible in future.
Somatosensory Manipulator|Cybernetics| Manipulates the sensory modalities such as touch, temperature, proprioception (body position), and nociception (pain). The sensory receptors cover the skin and epithelia, skeletal muscles, bones and joints, internal organs, and the cardiovascular system.|Androids gain senses.
Pyschoscanner|Artificial Life|A device capable of taking impressions, feelings and memories from living brains; it can be used on animals as well.|

Azurian · Aug 24, 2013

Organs

Building|Tech|Description|Required For??
Mechanical Organs|Genetics|Artificial Heart/Artificial pacemakers |Replacement Organs
Medical Prosthetics|Molecular Medicine|
Augmented Organs |Gene Enhancement and Nanogenerator| Redesigns parts of genome to connect to electrical biotech cells. Implanted Software regulates cell activity and biochemical levels on the micrometer level. Before the time of Nanobiotics.
Cybernetic Organs |Cybernetics| Fully electronic robotic/nanobotic organs that replace natural organs, (except the brain). Each organ is a hive of specific nanobots that replace organelles. The Cell is replaced by an electronic nanohive. Nucleus is an AI chip.
Singularity Brain |Singularity( not added yet, put in Terra computer for now)| replaces the human brain with a 12th generation Artificial Intelligence Core, and can download knowledge from exocortex networks. Can be stacked together in 64 and 128 "brains" to run a small or large city. required for mind uploading and memory replication.

Conception

Building|Tech||Required For??
Birth Control|Advanced Molecular Biology|Could also be called Fertility Clinic |
Phenotype Studio|Genesis Biology with molecular medicine| select gender, basic phenotypes, basic designer babies, can alter the genome in a limited manner, can be used for genetic buildings |Genotype Studio
Genotype Studio| Gene Jurisprudence | alter the genotypes, Mendelian inheritance, chromosome design, advanced designer babies, can be used for other genetic buildings| Anima Studio , DNA computing
Gestation Tanks |Rapid Recuperation| mass birth production by using up to 128 ovaries per abiogenesis chemicals and water Tank. Each individual is genetically unique or can be a clone. The movie The Island|Resurrection Hub
Uterine Replicator |Cybernetics| MEDIUM production of cyborgs , massively decreases android cloning time, requires cybernetic organs resource. Ineffcient for organic cloning, since Gestation Tanks are superior for that, built because cybernetic parts cant be build using abiogenesis chemicals. |Resurrection Hub
Anima Studio |Artificial Life| , can alter the genome "Bios or SDK" called amino acids to create new genomes called "Animas" [Latin for life]. Requires Amino Computing TECH in late Transhuman (not added yet)
Resurrection Hub | Artificial Life (for now, will be moved later)| mass birth production by using up to 1096 ovaries at once per Hub OR HIGH mass production of cyborgs. Combines Gestation Tanks + uterine Replicator. Each biological individual is genetically unique OR can be a clone. Cyborgs can have unique identities and resemble "cyclons" from Battlestar Galactica or traditonal apperance. New Tech called Binary Subconsciousness and Singularity in late Transhuman will be required. National Wonder

Cosmetic

Azurian · Aug 25, 2013

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Hydromancerx · Aug 25, 2013

You tree above is not correct. See the current tech tree here.

As you can see Holographics is at X91

However if you are suggesting new techs shouldn't this be in the tech thread?

In addition if we did add new techs you would need to do it like you did before. The old MrAzture text files are still there so you could continue to use them. I would be happy to upload them to the SVN for you as long as you did the code and made icon/buttons for them.

I have some questions ...

1. What's the difference between the existing Holographics tech and your Holograms tech?

2. What's the difference between the existing Imaginary Physics and Futurisma Physics?

3, Animamaterials while cool I think the application is a bit backwards in how retro the units seem. Simialr units could be used with a graphics makeover to make them look futuristic rather than Avatar-ish.

Also we may want to have TB review the techs before we add more.

Azurian · Aug 25, 2013

Hydromancerx said:
You tree above is not correct. See the current tech tree here.

As you can see Holographics is at X91

However if you are suggesting new techs shouldn't this be in the tech thread?

Thanks. I thought we were supposed to put TH era information here, and then review if and when confirmed by you posted in its appropriate thread, buildings in buidings thread, tech in tech thread, etc.

I'LL add them there then once I figure out stats and put in proper format .

Edit: Holographics and Holograms are different. One is 3D and one is 4D.

Hydromancerx · Aug 25, 2013

4D as in what? Time? Or as trans-dimensional? Note that 4D trans dimensional comes WAY later on the tree.

EDIT: This was planned for AToM ...

- Transverse Euclidean Geometry
--- First Four Dimensional Animal(TP)
--- 4D Melee Unit(s)(shot projectiles won't be able to toggle dimensional plane in which it exists to physically damage 3D objects)

- Endogenous Euclidean Propulsion
--- 4D UAVs
--- 4D USVs (Unmanned Spacial Vehicles)

Azurian · Aug 26, 2013

We should wait before adding later Techs until we add a substantial amount of buildings to existing future techs.

There are two technologies that are era changers, that is Online Community/Digitization and Artificial Intellegence/Cybernetics. Those techs are society disruptors and change society forever.

There are many Techs we could put in the game after Artificial Intellegence/Cybernetics but that requires a discussion of what is possible to add in the game, and the general "lore" of Caveman 2 Cosmos.

Technically Transhuman Era in my opinion should be divided into two Eras; Digital and Cyber. Cyber starts with Artificial Intellegence/ Cybernetics. We can keep Galactic as one. Again These are Caveman 2 Cosmos lore discussions, and will take time.

There are also Alternative Timelines we could do:
dystopia
Utopia
Nanopunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanopunk)

The future down the Future Era the more imaginative we can be, so that requires discussion.

EDIT: I could add 1 Technology to the Tech Thread for mod team review at a time. I can do that.

Thunderbrd · Aug 26, 2013

One at a time seems a good idea so it can be further discussed. Too easily overwhelmed in this sector to be tossing in much of a thorough review.

What I'd like to see is answers to these questions (when proposing a tech):

1) What exactly is the tech? What does it mean? Define the discovery.

2) How does it's prerequisites make sense? What about them becomes the key to unlocking this discovery?

3) What is it leading to? We're inserting a tech wherever we work on the tech tree so then the question of 'why is this tech critical to unlocking the next ones that stem from it?' should be addressed.

4) What would this tech add to a civilization? Buildings, units, promotions, civics? Other enhancements? Even just some suggestions so there can be some discussion on those suggestions and further brainstorming would be good.

5) What might it obsolete and why?

6) What needs would inspire the civilization to develop the tech? This is asking about the needs of the citizens and the needs of the nation which are two differing things.

Try to answer those and I think it might make new tech developments make more rational sense in a very explicit manner to any who would seek to review. I find most of the time I can infer what Azure is intending and I usually think its pretty cool. But if those questions were answered with each proposal, I have a feeling others who may not so easily read into the purpose of the tech and its cause for inclusion might have their concerns laid to rest before they even become unsettled.

It would also ask for the kind of thorough thought and delivery that would help to keep MrAzure's powerful source of creative inspiration narrowed down to an applicable degree of focus.

EDIT: Just wanted to mention something I'd thought the other day when reading through here... those medically advanced Organ implants sound like an awesome set of equipments. I'd love to have some serious cybernetic implant equipment concepts to work with for that era eventually. I think that'd just be pretty cool.

Also: intending to make EMP weaponry have a powerful effect on tech but minimal at best against personnel, though if said personnel were highly cybernetically enhanced, they too would become more and more susceptible to EMP weaponry. Something to give some consideration to for the Combat Mod of the future...

Hydromancerx · Aug 26, 2013

@MrAzure

Yeah I remember you old era chart. At this point I do not want to have more eras added, however we can still expand the tech trees within the era. Thus the Trans-Human Era can be Digital + Cyber Ages. And then the Galactic Era would include your Nano and Beyond Ages.

As for a Nanopunk tech I think that's a good idea since Cyberpunk got moved back to Early Trans-Human.

Azurian · Aug 26, 2013

Thunderbrd said:
One at a time seems a good idea so it can be further discussed. Too easily overwhelmed in this sector to be tossing in much of a thorough review.

What I'd like to see is answers to these questions (when proposing a tech):

Spoiler :

1) What exactly is the tech? What does it mean? Define the discovery.

2) How does it's prerequisites make sense? What about them becomes the key to unlocking this discovery?

3) What is it leading to? We're inserting a tech wherever we work on the tech tree so then the question of 'why is this tech critical to unlocking the next ones that stem from it?' should be addressed.

4) What would this tech add to a civilization? Buildings, units, promotions, civics? Other enhancements? Even just some suggestions so there can be some discussion on those suggestions and further brainstorming would be good.

5) What might it obsolete and why?

6) What needs would inspire the civilization to develop the tech? This is asking about the needs of the citizens and the needs of the nation which are two differing things.

Try to answer those and I think it might make new tech developments make more rational sense in a very explicit manner to any who would seek to review. I find most of the time I can infer what Azure is intending and I usually think its pretty cool. But if those questions were answered with each proposal, I have a feeling others who may not so easily read into the purpose of the tech and its cause for inclusion might have their concerns laid to rest before they even become unsettled.

It would also ask for the kind of thorough thought and delivery that would help to keep MrAzure's powerful source of creative inspiration narrowed down to an applicable degree of focus.

EDIT: Just wanted to mention something I'd thought the other day when reading through here... those medically advanced Organ implants sound like an awesome set of equipments. I'd love to have some serious cybernetic implant equipment concepts to work with for that era eventually. I think that'd just be pretty cool.

Also: intending to make EMP weaponry have a powerful effect on tech but minimal at best against personnel, though if said personnel were highly cybernetically enhanced, they too would become more and more susceptible to EMP weaponry. Something to give some consideration to for the Combat Mod of the future...

1. Agree , one Technology at a time is best for design and planning, since members are also working on other projects. I can add a summary of what it is, buildngs, and applications, following your guidelines.

2. Thanks for the Technology template. This will help explain things better and help alot with collaboration.

3. With cybernetics we can be as Abstract or specific as possible. We could have Cybernetic Lungs that allow land units to travel in water since they can breathe underwater. Maybe we can have magnetic telekinesis that moves metal units.

4. When I added EMP stuff originally it would have attack bonuses against androids and cyborgs. The counter would have benn reprogrammable or crystal based electronics. Plenty to add to combat mod.

5. Thank you for your great feedback. I really appropriate it.

Hydromancerx said:
@MrAzure

Yeah I remember you old era chart. At this point I do not want to have more eras added, however we can still expand the tech trees within the era. Thus the Trans-Human Era can be Digital + Cyber Ages. And then the Galactic Era would include your Nano and Beyond Ages.

As for a Nanopunk tech I think that's a good idea since Cyberpunk got moved back to Early Trans-Human.

1. LOL I remember. To be honest I don't recommend it anymore, majority of the Techs are more useful as buildings.

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2. Agree, I think in the game Transhuman Era should be one era, Digital + Cyber +Nano are more of planning and design guidelines that organize content. The less unnecessary work we need the better.

Digital: Digitization/ Online Community
Cyber: Artificial Intelligence/Cybernetics
Nano: Artificial Life/Mind Uploading

3. There are more Alternative Timelines we could do, even Mechapunk.

Thunderbrd · Aug 26, 2013

We could have Cybernetic Lungs that allow land units to travel in water since they can breathe underwater. Maybe we can have magnetic telekinesis that moves metal units.

Brilliant stuff!

4. When I added EMP stuff originally it would have attack bonuses against androids and cyborgs. The counter would have benn reprogrammable or crystal based electronics. Plenty to add to combat mod.

Something's gotta be able to counter robotics too. So yeah, I'm liking the concept.

Mechapunk

Very cool. How familiar are you with the Battletech system? I'd love the idea of huge spacefaring dropships depositing swarms of powerful mechs to battle it out over the resources of distant planets.

Azurian · Aug 26, 2013

Thunderbrd said:
Brilliant stuff!

Something's gotta be able to counter robotics too. So yeah, I'm liking the concept.

Very cool. How familiar are you with the Battletech system? I'd love the idea of huge spacefaring dropships depositing swarms of powerful mechs to battle it out over the resources of distant planets.

I am very familiar with Cybernetics and Battletech /Mechas. Usually the are very module based but we can classes like Sniper, Assault, Heavy Defense, Bombard, Medic, Scout, Command, etc. If possible we could have modules.

I Remember Empire Earth's future eras.

Faustmouse · Aug 27, 2013

1) What is the maximum Output for :science:

at the moment? I think I reached it. For no reason, I only have 19 :science:

in my city (OCC).

2) There are several buildings that need to be adjusted / changed in the late Modern /early TH era. For example the "old" ones like Clone Lab. They don't get buildings from techs. I recommend that after we finished adding stuff to the TH era we should rebalance and adjust all eras. At least the buildings.

3) I think the Replicators comes WAY too early. They are one of the techs that advances to the TH era. Like Flash Memory.

4) The Space Stuff is definetly missing. Hydro, I think you mentioned a primitive way of multi map earlier? Just having a map several viewpoints on it. I think the problem was/is that the Mapgenerator can't handle it. If I'd make a scenario, you COULD start to add space stuff like moon labs etc. Do you think this is usefull or should we hold it up completely?

5) Please post some more building suggestions until tomorrow 7 AM UTC. I have to spend a loooong time in the train tomorrow and need something to do

Hydromancerx · Aug 27, 2013

@Faustmouse

1. Report that in the Bug forum.

2. Yeah I realize this.

3. Hmm where should it be moved to? Note this is a leftover from RoM/AND so its probably not in the right spot.

4. This is a complex question but I will try to answer it.

a. Multi-Maps are in llimbo I think. I think they can be done, but I think the people who can do it have either been busy or burnt out on doing it.

b. Compound Maps were a single map makes many types of terrains on one map and are separated by void or space tiles. These maps have been done in the Future Mod and have to be toroidal maps. All maps are turned 90 degrees so the top and bottom of the maps wrap around and then each tile map is parallel to each other with north an south poles to each other. While this is great in that it gets all maps into one map it totally messes up things that depend upon map locations such as animal spawns and how far north or to the equator a building is.

However if multi-maps eventually end up being impossible then the compound maps will have to do.

5. Cool. (wait or did i miss it?)

Hydromancerx · Aug 27, 2013

MrAzure said:
Brainstorming
Biological Path (part 1)
Binary Aurals Store Microgenerators
Binary Vison Store Nanogenerators
Tissue Engineering Studio Molecular Medicine
Tattoo Biosensor Store Microgenrators
Computational Neurocenter Exocortex Networks
Chemosynthenetic PlantsArtificial Photosynthesis
Surrogate Store Cryogenetics

Could you explain these some more so I have some idea on what types of stats the buildings should have?

Azurian · Aug 27, 2013

Transportation Brainstorm
These are the Core Buildings.

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C2C - Transhuman Era

C2C Modder

The Azurian

The Azurian

C2C Modder

The Azurian

The Azurian

The Azurian

C2C Modder

The Azurian

C2C Modder

The Azurian

C2C War Dog

C2C Modder

The Azurian

C2C War Dog

The Azurian

Deity

C2C Modder

C2C Modder

The Azurian

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