C3C v1.20 patch is out!!!
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Pfeffersack
Deity
Radio has also still an entry in the civilopedia(and the incorrect information it enables building of radar towers).
Gojira54
The folly of Man
I only play single player, and absolutely hate the removal of Radio. I am sticking with 1.15. They REALLY need to do some explaining on this one.
I usually defend Firaxis on these forums, but this patch to me seems to be a waste - a severe step backwards, and none of the major complaints are addressed in 1.20 that weren't in 1.15.
I hope Firaxis lets someone post their reasoning.
I usually defend Firaxis on these forums, but this patch to me seems to be a waste - a severe step backwards, and none of the major complaints are addressed in 1.20 that weren't in 1.15.
I hope Firaxis lets someone post their reasoning.
Gojira54
The folly of Man
Originally posted by Civrules
Well, if corruption is not a problem, radio will be.
(Hinting that there will always be some aspects that players don't want.)
Very True. All of the changes they have done since the first release that I either did not like or did not care about they did because of user complaints. But some of the better changes came from that too. You take the bad with the good I guess. This patch just has too much bad and not enough good for me.
I just see radio as a major advancement in human history. Changing tech prereqs is one thing, but removing a major tech to me is unacceptable. If anything the tech tree needs to be expanded to include more techs, with more complicated prereqs.
I guess I am not a minimalist Civ3er.
But oh well, that is what modding is for.
Pirate
Emperor
Seriously, Radio is huge in real life! In the game it was not, but that's no reason to remove it.
Instead of removing it I would have liked to see an added effect for it. Maybe the real tech shouldn't be radio but "mass communication" and should reduce the "distance from the Capital" corruption effect. Los Angeles and Seattle are not corrupt simply because they are far from Washington DC because radio, telephone, television, and high-speed transportation make that distance negligible.
Anyway, it's just dumb that radio is not recognized as a major technological advance...
Instead of removing it I would have liked to see an added effect for it. Maybe the real tech shouldn't be radio but "mass communication" and should reduce the "distance from the Capital" corruption effect. Los Angeles and Seattle are not corrupt simply because they are far from Washington DC because radio, telephone, television, and high-speed transportation make that distance negligible.
Anyway, it's just dumb that radio is not recognized as a major technological advance...
Chris1111
Lurker
Gojira54
The folly of Man
I sense a 1.21 patch coming soon to fix all these remaining radio references.......
Chris1111
Lurker
Thanks I will shut up then 
I guess they did it this way so people wouldnt accidentally lose their changes? *shrugs*
I guess they did it this way so people wouldnt accidentally lose their changes? *shrugs*
Gojira54
The folly of Man
All my complaints aside, I DO like:
* Railroads will always appear under captured cities if you have Steam Power.
* Histograph keeps tracking defeated Civs
* Implemented Allow Scientific Leaders Rule
The rest either don't affect me or I just plain despise.
* Railroads will always appear under captured cities if you have Steam Power.
* Histograph keeps tracking defeated Civs
* Implemented Allow Scientific Leaders Rule
The rest either don't affect me or I just plain despise.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Can someone post the new industrial age tech tree (one that works)?
lbhhh
King
Originally posted by Gen
Well, was radio removed? Not really... no need to complain. In fact, it's now common knowledge of ancients:
They really need to fix this. Its weird to start a game knowing an industrial tech
lbhhh
King
Currently, when a civ is destroyed, the histograph stops calculating their score. The change brings back the way it was in PTW, i.e, defeated civs still have their score.
The Templar
Commissar
Good grief, can't they redraw the damn the arrows right and remove radio properly? My mods are more professional than this.
Sultan Bhargash
Trickster Reincarnated
Originally posted by lbhhh
They really need to fix this. Its weird to start a game knowing an industrial tech
It was so disconcerting to me it almost made me ill. This is an outrage - how hard could it have been to install the patch and start the game before releasing the patch? I'm uninstalling this patch. Phooey.
