the speeds are different is diferent cities too . I got cable dl 2.8 mb and upload around 385kb but i also someone else in the east part of my state only get half that speed with same service . I only had a very few time ( it wasn't in peak hours either) my speed was slow ( around 500 kb dl) which most DSL in my area speed is only 600 kb - 1mb dl. you need to ask around your neighborhood to see what others have and compare.
Cable modem or DSL
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I kinda wouldn't mind having to log into my cable modem. If only to make it secure. But then, that's what firewalls and routers are for.
I use DSL now and plan to stick with it over cable for this reason at least: The telephone company now has government approval to offer television channels through existing phone lines. They say they can provide voice, TV, and a faster internet connection, all on one line. Of course dedicated customers will get a better deal too.
I think cable's on the way out.
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@hbdragon88. Plugging 5 or 6 telephone cords through line filters, once, "sucked major time"? How many hours did it take?
I think cable's on the way out.
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@hbdragon88. Plugging 5 or 6 telephone cords through line filters, once, "sucked major time"? How many hours did it take?
CIVPhilzilla
Reagan Republican
DSL is pretty much an early idea of cable just shoved into a copper wire. If you are able to get cable I strongly suggest that over DSL.
If you examine the cable going into your modem or TV set you'll find that, besides the shielding telephone lines lack, it too is "shoved into a copper wire". One wire of copper or aluminium depending on where you live. This is a direct outgrowth of old-fashioned TV antenna reception. Broadcasters kept stringing wires to more and more broadcast towers, while consumers kept stinging longer and longer lines to bigger, better rooftop antennas, which served entire buildings or small neighbourhoods. At some point, we found it expedient to simply splice these overlapping webs of antenna systems together, and quit using air as an intermediary. This sprawling web was still essentially an antenna and still received air transmission.
The shielding came in when cable companies realised it would not only clarify reception of their own channels (or allow greater bandwidth, depending on how you look at it), but allow them to restrict the available channels. With blockers on the pole outside every house, they could selectively limit consumer reception, based on payment. Later, the cable companies tried a number of ploys to restrict channel availability within buildings, even to each individual set.
So, cable clearly has the jump on bandwidth over phone lines, since they've been pushing that envelope for decades and have pretty well reached the limit, but phone lines in many areas already exceed cable's bandwidth, and we can safely expect doublings in telephone bandwidth as lines are upgraded and voice devices grow less demanding.
I have a grudge against cable companies too, since their mode of "service" is in fact to restrict something available to all, their operating costs going mostly to enforcing that restriction. As for unrestricted computer access though cable, I see no light at the end of that tunnel.
The shielding came in when cable companies realised it would not only clarify reception of their own channels (or allow greater bandwidth, depending on how you look at it), but allow them to restrict the available channels. With blockers on the pole outside every house, they could selectively limit consumer reception, based on payment. Later, the cable companies tried a number of ploys to restrict channel availability within buildings, even to each individual set.
So, cable clearly has the jump on bandwidth over phone lines, since they've been pushing that envelope for decades and have pretty well reached the limit, but phone lines in many areas already exceed cable's bandwidth, and we can safely expect doublings in telephone bandwidth as lines are upgraded and voice devices grow less demanding.
I have a grudge against cable companies too, since their mode of "service" is in fact to restrict something available to all, their operating costs going mostly to enforcing that restriction. As for unrestricted computer access though cable, I see no light at the end of that tunnel.
sebanaj
Prince
DSL capped to 512/256 > Cable capped to 512
Uncapped Cable > DSL
Online gaming/multiplayer: DSL > Cable --> Because of latency (ping time).
Uncapped Cable > DSL
Online gaming/multiplayer: DSL > Cable --> Because of latency (ping time).
lord_yoshi
Making fun of you
DSL < Cable in Calgary (DSL lags in Starcraft).
Comraddict
C.IV
My cable company has constant download rate of 3mbps, no DSL can beat that.
Archer 007
Rebirth
What would be an average price for DSL?
There are technical, physical difficulties with DSL. There are crosstalk limitations at the couplings. However, experience shows that throughput is a function of your distance from telephone switching station. I know a guy who is across the alley from the Ameritech building who get cable-level throughput. But if you're a few miles away, forget it.
Cable's problem is social sciences not physics. You share bandwidth with your neighbors on the cable and can experience "wellhead" problems. Not that you and your neighbors are choking the wire, your choking your shared hub. So, if your provider is good and maintains, improves and grows the infrastructure with demand you get FAR superior performance over DSL.
I don't see how in either case you would consider up-stream performance. Neither is much and if you want to serve you need real communications like T1.
Cable's problem is social sciences not physics. You share bandwidth with your neighbors on the cable and can experience "wellhead" problems. Not that you and your neighbors are choking the wire, your choking your shared hub. So, if your provider is good and maintains, improves and grows the infrastructure with demand you get FAR superior performance over DSL.
I don't see how in either case you would consider up-stream performance. Neither is much and if you want to serve you need real communications like T1.
hbdragon88
haunted by blackness
Cable is bad. You are forced to log in for only 20 minutes each day. And if your neighbor's computer isn't working, they'll go after you and the police will have to be called to restrain both of you. Your neighbor will scream "Log off!" If you try to move out, it will be difficult to find a seller: neighbors will burn 'log off' into the grass, put police tape around the perimeter, and put pillowcases over their heads and tell any potential buyer to 'log off'.
Damn those DSL commercials
Damn those DSL commercials
Originally posted by hbdragon88
Cable is bad. You are forced to log in for only 20 minutes each day. And if your neighbor's computer isn't working, they'll go after you and the police will have to be called to restrain both of you. Your neighbor will scream "Log off!" If you try to move out, it will be difficult to find a seller: neighbors will burn 'log off' into the grass, put police tape around the perimeter, and put pillowcases over their heads and tell any potential buyer to 'log off'.
Damn those DSL commercials
Or you could just hack into the neighbors' computers and install bandwidth-limiters on them so that they won't disturb your surfing.
MarineCorps
Explosion!
Just wondering what does DSL stand for?
hbdragon88
haunted by blackness
I think it's "digital suscriber line", but I'm not sure.
MarineCorps
Explosion!
Thanks. I think I'll just do a google search.
EDIT: Yeah you got it right.
Goober
Turning Right ...
I would go with Cable. I have Telus (local ISP), and it is CRAP!!! It seems to consistantly slow down, not work, etc, etc, etc. Ya, definitely NOT dsl!!!
I'm using Telus ADSL in Vancouver and it downloads quicker than my mother's cable in Victoria. But maybe that's just because you're all on Island Time.
For sure cable sucks just after a big promotion, when new customers flood the system. I remember cable over there got bogged down for that reason, some years ago, to near standstill. Took Shaw/Rogers weeks to get it running again, and not anywhere up to promoted speed. By now they've got it together, so go with cable if it works for you.
Goober
Turning Right ...
Originally posted by Sean Lindstrom
I'm using Telus ADSL in Vancouver and it downloads quicker than my mother's cable in Victoria. But maybe that's just because you're all on Island Time.
What?!?! I sense a double standard here . . . I still do not like Telus, just a POS. I think it might have something to do with me being on the Island, but I can still claim that Micro$oft and Telus have a conspiracy to not work for me.
The only thing that stops me from going to Cable is that I would have to pay for it, whereas I am just connected to my parents Telus DSL line now. I suppose I shouldn't complain, especially since i get the internet for free, now . . .
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