CamJH's Creation Thread

What you people are completly missing from the picture is that this unit seriuosly LACKS ONE HUGE $%&/(# HORSE! Its a footman, he can attack with a shrimp-fork if he feels like it! This unit is to be used in case you don`t have access to the bloddy horses resource and if you do, up to the time you discover Riding.
 
What you people are completly missing from the picture is that this unit seriuosly LACKS ONE HUGE $%&/(# HORSE! Its a footman, he can attack with a shrimp-fork if he feels like it! This unit is to be used in case you don`t have access to the bloddy horses resource and if you do, up to the time you discover Riding.
I'm not discussin the unit itself, just the statement he must have a curved sword if he was on horse.
Beside, I've found the horse: it's being beaten in Partizanac post!!

If your trying to convince a Frenchman in to something, its like you're :deadhorse:
 
My point was that because the Mongol culture focuses on the horse, they used a curved sword. And since this is supposed to be a Mongol-Turkish type unit I thought I would let you know.
NOT THAT EVERY HORSEMAN USED A CURVED SWORD!!!!! never said that.

But if you read the links, or (like me) use swords and have cut and learned the way to handle different types, you would understand that.

But you didn't read anything, you just wanted to make your point right, which was French people didn't always use curved swords while ridding a horse. God job I believe you! But read the links or do research about swords. Then you can understand.
 
But if you read the links, or (like me) use swords and have cut and learned the way to handle different types, you would understand that.
But you didn't read anything, you just wanted to make your point right, which was French people didn't always use curved swords while ridding a horse. God job I believe you! But read the links or do research about swords. Then you can understand.
Well, I did read the link and also provided another one that covers in good details the difference between curved and straight sword.
Perhaps you fail to notice one thing, as you keep repeating the same argument: I said that they use the curved sword not mainly because they were horse riding warrior, but more because they did not use heavy armor.
 
They always use a triangle shaped sword unless the wieght of the armour is greater than half of the wieght of the horse in which case it enters the fourth dimension...
 
We all know that anyone on a horse between the hours of 6pm and 3am, who have not eaten for exactly 14.576 hours and has more that 36 tons of wheet automatically upgrades their swords into lightsabers. Unless they are wearing heavy armour in which case they wield the legendary Soul Reaver
 
And here are some curved Indian weapons from before the Mughals for your research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanda_(sword)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talwar
Thank you for the links. I've bookmarked both articles, and some of the links they pointed to. Regarding the khanda your source says "Khanda is a double-edged straight sword." The illustration is misleading, because the prominent mounted warrior is using what appears to be a talwar.

And regarding the talwar, I misled you. While it is indeed pre-Mughal, I often use Mughal as an oversimplification for the Mughal Empire, the preceding Sultanates, and the prior incursions by Islamic Central Asians. The Sultanates date from early 13th century; I meant I was looking for info on the period prior to the whole Islamic hegemony in South Asia.

According to your source, and the places it linked to, it looks like the Rajputs began using the talwar in response to the Muslim's choice of weapons (perhaps they changed fighting styles in accord with the theory you proposed). It does seem that the Kushans used a form of the scimitar, and so Indians would have been familiar with that, even if it was not widely adopted at the time.

So it seems like the pattern is early exposure to curved blades but choice to continue use of straight blades like the khanda, then later adoption and improvement to cope with an ardent foe's cutting edge technology. :D

Thanks for increasing my knowledge of Indian weapons.
It was believed that a curved sword would impact in such a way as to be less inclinded to stick in the victim, and thus being pulled out of the hand.
I read long ago (35 years or so, sorry I don't remember the source) that this was one of the primary reasons for the relative success of the English cavalry vs. the French cavalry at Waterloo. English doctrine favored slashing (using an adaptation of the talwar as a saber, I just found out thanks to you) while the French favored thrusting on the initial attack against cavalry. Consequently the French inflicted more fatal wounds (from which the wounded might take some time to expire), but the wounds inflicted by the English were more immediately debilitating (incapacitating a man, even if he survives and returns to the fight later). Thus the English continued to inflict more damage and repel the French cavalry, even while suffering heavier losses in the long run.

Which just goes to show that exposition provides a more effective argument than assertion.;)

"And now back to the program already in progress..."
 
You`ve read something 35 years ago, and you remember it? :wow:

"wow", on so many levels.. I thought you were like.. 18 or something! And I can`t remember what I`ve read yesterday :crazyeye:
DOB: 8/22/1956. And I still play with toy soldiers. They're just virtual now. When I go on an :old: rant, there's a reason, if not a decent one.

Edit: I wonder how many others here can claim to have played Pong when it was "state of the art".
 
DOB: 8/22/1956. And I still play with toy soldiers. They're just virtual now. When I go on an :old: rant, there's a reason, if not a decent one.

Edit: I wonder how many others here can claim to have played Pong when it was "state of the art".

I can! :D

...glad I'm not the only dinosaur around here.:high5:
 
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