Can Anyone Offer Me Employment?

[dannyevilcat]

When I was 20 or 21, I went down to Bellingham to enlist in the U.S. Navy (I was young and wanted to have cool toys to play with, and maybe even see some action. Both kinds of. ).

Anyway, the moral of the story is, they wouldn't give me a visa, so I couldn't. The armed forces don't sponsor people, and the sponsor I DID have wasn't immediate family (but he was a univerity professor). I was confounded by this. My uncle enlisted in U.S. Army back in the 60's with no problems.

So what does it take to live in the States these days, if a willingness to serve your country isn't enough?

 

[damunzy]

Originally posted by andyo
i would love to join the guard or the reserves - but the problem is that require you to go to 6 - 13 months of training - I can't do that because of my job - is there any way to get in without goin away for so long? I had a year o ROTC in college if that helps any

this is for the Army:
8 weeks of basic Training
5 weeks of AIT (Advanced Individual Training) for Infantryman.
I don't know of a MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) that has less training time.
If you join the Guard or the Reserves you do not have to leave right away, they can probably work around your schedule.

If you are looking for technical training and not for gaining rank fast I would suggest the AirForce. If you are looking for rank fast I would join the Army. Not sure on the Marines and Navy....do they even have reserves?

 

[damunzy]

Originally posted by dannyevilcat
When I was 20 or 21, I went down to Bellingham to enlist in the U.S. Navy (I was young and wanted to have cool toys to play with, and maybe even see some action. Both kinds of. ).

Anyway, the moral of the story is, they wouldn't give me a visa, so I couldn't. The armed forces don't sponsor people, and the sponsor I DID have wasn't immediate family (but he was a univerity professor). I was confounded by this. My uncle enlisted in U.S. Army back in the 60's with no problems.

So what does it take to live in the States these days, if a willingness to serve your country isn't enough?

Are you trying to sign up for the Canadian military or American?

 

[Narz]

so seriously folks, does anyone have an ideas or inspiration to help me make money?

 

[Pongui]

Narz. I see you've always learned best by your own initiative. I guess that you also work best under your own rules, though you plainly have a healthy attitude towards people and can deal with them well.

It's inevitable that you will be your own boss. For now, do what you must, of course. Maybe in five or ten years you'll be staying up playing Civ5 because you've set your work hours to suit yourself. Just please keep testing yourself until you hit upon that elusive talent! It'll pay off, eventually.

My only advice about finding a paycheck in North America is to focus on low-profile employers. They are not flooded by applicants, which means you have a better chance to land a job and your wage won't say "plenty more where you came from". The work may be very interesting, too.

 

[dannyevilcat]

Originally posted by PaleHorse76
Are you trying to sign up for the Canadian military or American?

Neither anymore. This was a few years back. I was mistaken, I was actually more like 18 at the time, so that was 8 years back. But I was trying to join the American navy. Because you guys actually have the gumption to fight, not "peacekeep".

Back then I was in good shape. Bah, your loss!

 

[Narz]

Thanks for the encouragement Sean. I do plan to eventually be my own boss, so far my ventures in moneymaking have been very small time.... a shareware game (net gross $25), selling chess boards in Bryant Park in Manhattan (net profit probably less than $50). Still as you said, once I find my talent and passion I know I will be unstopable

"My only advice about finding a paycheck in North America is to focus on low-profile employers."

What are some examples of low-profile employers?

Thanks, you're advice is much appreciated!

- Tony (Narz)

 

[Ohkrana]

From a brief read of your credentials, I would suggest looking for work in an IT helpdesk of some sort.

You have some level of experience with computers and 'good' with people. It's not great work but it's a start.

Tried networking through friends for work? Or better yeat make friends with people who work in similar area's you want to get work in.

Or try one of those web sites, where you can search for available jobs etc.

 

[Padma]

Originally posted by andyo
i would love to join the guard or the reserves - but the problem is that require you to go to 6 - 13 months of training - I can't do that because of my job - is there any way to get in without goin away for so long? I had a year o ROTC in college if that helps any

Federal law says that employers must give a Guardsman or Reservist his/her job back when they return from active duty. Not sure if it says anything about people who join after employment, but I'm pretty sure it falls in the same category.

That initial 6+ months is pretty mandatory. It is Basic Training + Initial Job Training. It can't really be shortened. The main thing your single year of ROTC will do for you is give you a better understanding of the system than the kids who just walk in "off the street".

 

[Pongui]

By suggesting "low-profile", I was warning you against "high-profile" jobs. I remember going into a restaurant that had put a help-wanted ad in the paper. I sat down to fill out the application, and a waitress placed a menu on the table. Then I perceived that half the paying customers were also job applicants. I wasted a lot of time back then tramping the retail streets, applying for and occasionally getting jobs which nobody thinks are interesting.

All manufacturing jobs are low-profile, for example. Most of the trades are too, like "central-vacuum system repairperson". You might need to limit yourself in an apprenticeship (does that still exist in the States?), or you might do what I did and just bluff your way into freelance work you have no formal training in but a knack and interest in. Personally, the work I respect most is construction and manufacturing, but, if you aren't good with your hands it's not an option. Mainly, by "low-profile", I just mean anything that nobody thinks of yet somebody does it. Somebody has to appraise and count a shipload of imported woven baskets, right?

Good luck!

 

[CurtSibling]

I'm needing a servant if anyone is interested?

Cleaning cess pools and mowing the 100 acres of land on my estate are the main duties...

£10 a week.

Contact me via email.

 

[Pongui]

It's alarming and humiliating to be unemployed and poor in a capitalist society, though we remind ourselves this is a necessary failing of the system. At least the poor in the USSR could blame the government while they angrily stood in line for rations. At least there was a line to wait in. Here, people blame you for your situation, and some even snicker.

I thought of something, Narz. IF you can raise enough for return airfare, you could probably get a job teaching english as a second language in a foreign country like Taiwan or Japan. Here is a link to ESL schools in Japan. The Japanese school year starts in early spring, I believe, and you're expected to get a one year working visa (easy, and may be extended again and again). I met alot of happy ESL teachers there, few of whom spoke japanese. It's also possible to get work in Japan just by being there. You don't really need any training to teach ESL, but you must be lively, and, some companies only hire people who 'look American'. The cost of living is ; the pay is .

 

[starlifter]

BTW, are you referring to filipinos, who enlist?

Right!! Congress authorized a special circumstance for them to keep their Philippino allegiance while serving in the US military, primarily navy.

A foriegn national cannot hold a US clearance of Secret or above, which disqualifies them for many Enlisted jobs, and all Line Officer jobs (Line=not Medical, Legal, Nurse, Dental).

I've never personally known a non-Philippino serving in the US active duty, but then I'm Air Force. I'm pretty sure the USAF does not take nationals, and probably the Marines & CG, too. That leaves the Army and Navy, and I won't say for sure. I'd have to do some checking with legal next time I'm at the JAG or ADC (which is pretty rare, LOL). And recruiters should know, too.

 

[Pongui]

Hey Starlifter. This guy's looking for work, and you're walking right over him.

 

[sabo]

Bank Robbing is always an option, short hours good pay, be your own boss.....

 

[Kev]

Instead of the Civfanatic Forums I'd suggest clicking on over to Monsterboard or one of the other sites where ACTUAL job opportunities are listed.

However, I'd suggest always SENDING your resume rather than emailing. Just a nicer touch and HR people appreciate it more.

This does assume that you have a resume - and if you don't that could always be step #1...

 

[Ohkrana]

People still send resume's hardcopy?? Since when???

These days I just send a flash anime file packed with sound and the relevant scanned documents fading in and out with colourful text sliding across the screen!!

 

[Zelig]

How's your search going?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Moderator Action: I don't think we need to extend the life of this 9 year old thread thread. Closed.