Thx EP... really like this... The first part is a rendition of an old French-canadian folk music piece, but as you can see, it also has a very distinct English/Scottish/Irish sound to it...
Very traditional, love it !
and as @Trav'ling Canuck mentioned, it'll be hard not to stand up from the industrial age on
Since it all developed from the folk music of the English, Scottish and Irish settlers, it makes perfect sense. A little less African influence up in Canada (so not as much banjo as bluegrass), and a little more French, but many shared traditions nonetheless.
The Canadian theme (other than O Canada) is "Vive la Candienne" so I think you need to cross the channel for the most direct inspiration or broaden to "folk music of European descendants who lived in formally Celtic regions".
The Canadian theme (other than O Canada) is "Vive la Candienne" so I think you need to cross the channel for the most direct inspiration or broaden to "folk music of European descendants who lived in formally Celtic regions".
if anyone wants to get a sample of traditional French-Canadian music, there's a modern band that has specialized in keeping the tradition alive since the '80s, named 'La Bottine Souriante'.
I would like a rendition of Halleluyah (sp.) somewhere in the music score...
When it boils down to it, I do like the Canadian civilization for the way it has turned out. I don't think that they would have chosen a different unique unit for Canada historically speaking. And yeah, the hockey rink is slightly a bit on the cheesy side however I do think that, again, they wouldn't have chosen anything else and I don't think that we were honestly expecting anything else.
Overall I am happy with the design and the ideas behind the Canadian civ. But I do think that Canada is a little on the weak side and that the devs will figure out quite quickly that Canada will need some adjustments to be more competitive.
Overall I am happy with the design and the ideas behind the Canadian civ. But I do think that Canada is a little on the weak side and that the devs will figure out quite quickly that Canada will need some adjustments to be more competitive.
I'm totally fine with Canada being on the weak side. Some civs have to be bottom tier, that doesn't fuss me at all. Food and production from tile sized hockey rinks, though, is a different story.
I thought I'd let things settle a bit before putting out my thoughts on Canada.
Things I like:
- Laurier's model looks very good. It's certainly up there with Theodore Roosevelt and Poundmaker (some ironic examples I know). I do like his clothes and the maple leaf pin. It's a plus if he's speaking French and I'll look forward to seeing some of his more colorful character moments.
- Similarly, the leader background is very stunning. Until we see what the others are in Gathering Storm this is probably in my top 3 leader backgrounds.
- The way I see it, stereotypes are fine as long as they're accurate and a diplomatic bonus for Canada was expected but definitely not unwelcome. I'm glad to see this civ being geared towards a diplomatic victory.
Things I'm 'meh' on:
- It may not make sense to be able to farm on tundra tiles but I do understand the desire to represent in some way the vast amount of tundra that Canada owns. I probably would've put forth Sakha/Yakutia as a tundra settling civ but there's no denying that there have been almost as many people asking for Canada as there have been for the Ottomans.
- As odd as the Mountie is, it does at least have a cool bonus. Being able to build a national park without faith is pretty nice. Plus I'd have a hard time thinking of another Canadian UU. The coureur des bois could've been an interesting choice but I don't know if they'd face a similar criticism. Not letting the Mounties leave Canadian land could've been an interesting limitation but I'm not sure if its necessary or not.
Things I...don't like as much:
- I'll admit that I wouldn't be nearly as disappointed if I hadn't seen some of the ideas in the O Canada thread because there were some nice concepts in there. As much as I love hockey, i would've preferred the railroad hotel as a UI (especially since it could tie in better with both a side of Canadian history that's less known and a new feature in the upcoming expansion). The bonuses that hockey rink gets are pretty sweet but I don't see why the railroad hotel couldn't get similar bonuses.
Overall, I don't hate this civ and I'm happy for all the players who wanted its inclusion. However, I'm a bit less than enthusiastic about its design choices and I do think that more time should've been spent thinking about its design (not saying that know for a fact what happened behind the scenes, it's just the impression I'm getting). If we got something more in line with the ideas that were being made in the O Canada thread like a railroad hotel UI then I'd think most people would be at least a little more forgiving. I'll still be curious to see them in action during the livestream of course.
Hockey rinks are pretty central to most Canadian communities so in the same way that Collectivization and Arsenal of Democracy grant food and production, the rinks do as well at Professional Sports.
Seems like they're focused on a culture victory with a diplomatic flavor. The national park gimick is pretty cool. It's main benefit would be saving your faith on other things. Being able to-hard build or (maybe) upgrade units to mounties is pretty neat. Of course, you can always just spend gold instead.
The hockey rink seems like it can give a boat-load of culture and then tourism. The only thing holding them back is that they can only be built on tundra and snow.
I mean, the Bears haven't been to a Super Bowl in years and haven't won one since I was a kid, but I still have a good time rooting for whoever the Patriots are playing against.
@Scaramanga then I'm not sure I can believe Canadian claims that they love hockey
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