warpus
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Everybody except the blind should be allowed to just start driving as soon as they turn 16? or 18? or whatever? That would be hilarious but incredibly deadly.
Can't do nothing no more
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History_Buff
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Even before they know how. If you can physically move the gear select into some drive gear, and work the pedals well enough to make the car go, I can see no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to drive.
Now, bring on the drunks!
Now, bring on the drunks!
GhostWriter16
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The line of thinking that you should need permission from uncle sam to drive is ridiculous...
Old Hippy
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even when it would be oK to get permision to use someone elses private property...
hobbsyoyo
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Let's play a game. Who can guess which one of these posts was totally serious and not an intentional parody?
Hint: It's the one that mistakes state driver's licenses for Uncle Sam's meddling.
GhostWriter16
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Fine, Uncle Sam's Son, Big Brother. REDEMPTION!
I think you are permitted to drive on your private property without much restriction.
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...so long as you accept the surveillance drones overhead.
timtofly
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Was I wrong in not stopping and exchanging insurance information and waiting for the police to show up, If my rear bumper on an almost paid off 05 Malibu got damaged? We were at a red light and the vehicle behind me was stopped, but jumped the green light.
GhostWriter16
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Government is not a legitimate owner of property.
I posted about this in the DRM thread whilst you were away, but basically, this doesn't make any sense.
GhostWriter16
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If you could give me your post I could try to give you a more intellectual response, but the short version is that government is the one, currently, that regulates property rights in the first place. While I do believe that the government's role is in fact to protect private property rights, they have no right to define who owns what, merely to protect those rights that already exist through Lockean homesteading and peaceful trade. "Government" of course, homesteads nothing, only individuals. Government, being a thief on a mass scale, has no right to own anything. And to allow government to own property is to ensure that the people cannot own said property, why can't they just do this regarding all property? The generosity of their hearts? The reality is that government should not be allowed to own property and prevent the people from owning it.
Core Imposter
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The problem here is that you see the government as an entity separate from the people and the others here do not.
You are wrong and they are more wrong. The issue is the defacto extent of control of the government that the people can exercise.
On the local level there is no particular problem with a governmental building or whatever because on that level citizens exert a great deal of pressure on the behavior of their elected officials, and (most important) people can simply vote with their feet and leave.
Once additional layers of government appear all bets are off. State governments are less responsive but still managable.
Once you get to a governmental level such as a national capital in a nation of significant size there appears an elitest core over which the people have neither recourse nor the means to escape. This centralized core is the enemy of the people and its ability to own property is among the least of our concerns.
GhostWriter16
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That definitely makes it less of a problem. As a pragmatic issue, that's why I side with decentralizationists and antifederalists no matter what, even if the Federal government may be pretending to support the more libertarian position. However, just because its less of a problem doesn't mean its not a problem.
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FWIW, I'm only interested in finding out whose sock-puppet you are. The schtick has grown old. Just come out & say who you are. The humor was better when you weren't trying so hard. JMO, of course. #GettingBoredWithIt #TooMuch
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I mean, sure, it's still good stuff, but it's kind of like Lost. You can't just postpone the answers forever, right? At some point, you have to actually address the mystery in a satisfying way or else risk a backlash which destroys all the anticipation you built up.
And if you provide a lame answer, it kinda diminishes everything that came before. MisterCooper=Smoke Monster.
And if you provide a lame answer, it kinda diminishes everything that came before. MisterCooper=Smoke Monster.
