Chick-Fil-A Backs Down Then Backs Up

[MobBoss]

"The way this is parsed" isn't a thing, it doesn't have any meaning. There's "the way MobBoss is parsing this", which is a deliberate pretzel.

No, he either says something or he doesnt. The man simply didnt say what you alleged.

I don't assert or try to deny that he didn't specify homosexuality.

...then says straight-up that they'd fire an employee found to be gay...

 

[LucyDuke]

Yes, among the things he didn't say was "sins that would harm family members".

I did not say he specified homosexuality. All he specified was "sinful". I specified homosexuality. Surely you can tell the difference.

 

[Berzerker]

I don't have a problem with this happening to state-chartered entities. Lose the state protection of limited liability and I would be sympathetic.

it would seem Moreno was threatening to withhold that protection... your sympathy lies with the thug, not the victim's freedom of speech

 

[JollyRoger]

it would seem Moreno was threatening to withhold that protection... your sympathy lies with the thug, not the victim's freedom of speech

Moreno did not threaten to revoke Chick-fil-a's charter.

 

[Berzerker]

he wouldn't honor it in his city

a politician says those people cant work in his city because he doesn't like what they said and your sympathy lies with the politician

because you dont like what the victims said...

you're a lawyer, I imagine that means you have some sort of "permission" to work... permission that can be denied if a politician dislikes what you say?

 

[JollyRoger]

1. Chick-fil-a isn't a person
2. Dishonoring the charter would have been suing an owner of Chick-fil-a in their individual capacity rather than in their corporate capacity. He didn't do that.

 

[MobBoss]

Yes, among the things he didn't say was "sins that would harm family members".

Uhm. He did indeed say that.

I did not say he specified homosexuality. All he specified was "sinful". I specified homosexuality. Surely you can tell the difference.

Yeah, you tried to take a very generic comment and make it specific.

 

[Formaldehyde]

A 60-year-old Christian, who had been a CFA employee for 9 years, decided to quit last month due to the homophobia, bigotry and decided lack of Christian values, which has changed the workplace into one that is decidely hostile to homosexuals.

Former employee says Chick-fil-A is a ‘safe place for people to hate’

A former employee says that he quit his job at Chick-fil-A after almost a decade of working at its restaurants and corporate headquarters because the company allowed a mindset “that Chick-fil-A doesn’t like homosexuals.”

“It’s become a safe place for people to hate and expect to be patted on the back for it. I don’t want to work in that kind of environment,” 60-year-old Steve Cammett recently told CBS Atlanta.

Cammett said that he spent nine years working for the restaurant chain because “I was a Chick-fil-A enthusiast. … We don’t have enough time to go over all the things I liked about Chick-fil-A.”

But things changed earlier this year after Chick-fil-A founder Dan Cathy told the Baptist Press that his company was “guilty as charged” of working to prevent marriage equality, sparking a series of protests and counter-protests.

“I felt hurt by those statements,” Cammett, whose late sister was a lesbian, said.

The former employee recalled instances where customers and other employees made bigoted commends about LGBT people. In one case, a customer put his arm around an employee and thanked him for taking a stand against “those perverts.”

“And that [employee] was gay and [the customer] didn’t know it,” Cammett explained. “And I just thought, ‘Wow. What has happened here?’”

“Chick-fil-A allowed a mindset to continue, especially amongst their customers, that Chick-fil-A doesn’t like homosexuals,” he added.

Earlier this month, Chick-fil-A reportedly agreed to stop funding groups opposing rights for LGBT people, some of which had been labeled as hate groups. But just two days later, the company changed its tune.

“Chick-fil-A and its charitable-giving arm, the WinShape Foundation, did not agree to stop making donations to groups that support the biblical definition of marriage in exchange for being allowed to open a franchise in Chicago,” a statement from the company said.

Watch this video from CBS Atlanta, broadcast Sept. 26, 2012.

 

[Dachs]

1. Chick-fil-a isn't a person

They should do an IPO so they can be.

 

[LucyDuke]

Uhm. He did indeed say that.

All I can find is this:

has been sinful or done something harmful to their family members.

Yeah, you tried to take a very generic comment and make it specific.

I'm not trying to put my words in his mouth. You are.

 

[MobBoss]

A 60-year-old Christian, who had been a CFA employee for 9 years, decided to quit last month due to the homophobia, bigotry and decided lack of Christian values, which has changed the workplace into one that is decidely hostile to homosexuals.

Former employee says Chick-fil-A is a ‘safe place for people to hate’

So, this guy was never really discriminated against personally, but he saw an customer make a bad comment, and he was hurt by Dan Cathy actually saying what he believed in.

Yeah, thats a really strong case to make your point there Form. Really strong. 15,000 or so employees, 1600+ stores, and you actually found one case where a guy himself was never discriminated against by anyone that works for Chic-Fil-A. Good find.