Civ Leader Depiction Elimination Thread

[Kimiimaro]

Teddy Roosevelt = 22+1=23 - Teddy Roosevelt is one of the best designed leaders in this list. He deserves an upvote.
Saladin = 21
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 9-3=6 - In fact, he sometimes looks like an angry hamster. And that's not good. Him speaking accurate Chinese won't save him from being the worst designed leader here.
Cleopatra = 19
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 9
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 21
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga =14
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 24
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Tomyris = 22
Peter the Great = 20
Phillip II = 15
Gilgamesh = 18

Moderator Action: Restored Peter the Great -- Jon

 

[Photi]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 21
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 6
Cleopatra = 19 +1 = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 9
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 21 - 3 = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga =14
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 24
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Tomyris = 22
Peter the Great = 20
Phillip II = 15
Gilgamesh = 18

My two favorites in appearance are Cleopatra and Cyrus, and Cyrus currently has the lead...

Pericles is much blander than Gorgo

Moderator Action: Restored Peter the Great -- Jon

 

[Siptah]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 21 + 1 = 22
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 6
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 9
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga =14
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 24
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Tomyris = 22
Peter the Great = 20
Phillip II = 15
Gilgamesh = 18 - 3 = 15

Gilgamesh is over the top and doesn't look Sumerian in any way, nor does his background.
I like Saladin, he is one of the best in my opinion. His gesticulations are really awesome.

Moderator Action: Restored Peter the Great -- Jon

 

[sadsquid]

Moderator Action: Restored Peter the Great -- Jon

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 6
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 9-3 = 6 As I've said, I find her boring and uninspired in many ways
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga =14
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 24
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Tomyris = 22
Peter the Great = 20
Phillip II = 15
Gilgamesh = 15+1 = 16 Gotta love this guy. Yeah, he maybe borders on too silly for some, but just love his agenda and his flavour because of it. 'Are you mad?'

 

[joncnunn]

Not sure if my 24 hours are up yet, but I simply make one post every day, a day being "the time between two times of sleeping".

All, please keep to 24 hour rule; everybody's sleep schedule is different and this is a world wide forum.
I did check this one; it was 24 hours.

 

[Kimiimaro]

In my vote Peter the Great disappeared, so I'm adding him back to the list.

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 6
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 6
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga =14
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 24
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 20
Tomyris = 22
Phillip II = 15
Gilgamesh = 16

 

[Mustakrakish]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 6
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 6
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 11 (14 - 3) Really hate seeing him, would gladly remove him from the game altogether.
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 25 (24 + 1) Looks solid.
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 20
Tomyris = 22
Phillip II = 15
Gilgamesh = 16

Moderator Action: Fixed Mvemba a Niznga vote total -- Jon

 

[janboruta]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 6
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 6
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 11-3 = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 25
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 20
Tomyris = 22
Phillip II = 15+1 = 16
Gilgamesh = 16

Mvemba looks to me like a local tribal leader, not a king presiding over a rich and fertile land. Missed opportunity for portraying a really powerful African monarch.

And while Philip is definitely portrayed as someone else than his historical self, his animations and emotional reactions are amazingly done. Always puts a smile on my face.

Moderator Action: Fixed Mvemba a Nzinga vote total -- Jon

 

[sonicmyst]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 8
Qin Shi Huang = 6-3 = 3
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 6
Frederick Barbarossa = 16
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 25+1 = 26
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 20
Tomyris = 22
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 16

Qin looked too cartoonish.
Cyrus looked so villanous.

Moderator Action: Fixed Mvemba a Nzinga's vote total -- Jon

 

[Morningcalm]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 8 + 1 = 9 Relatively accurate (he even wore that hat in real life), and his lines and voice acting are just solid. Some of the lines don't draw directly from what he said in real life, but are so close in language and style to what one expects of the World War II leader that it's quite fitting. I like his distinguished nose, too--one of the rare few physical portrayals of a leader (alongside Cyrus) that Firaxis got right.
Qin Shi Huang = 3
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 6
Frederick Barbarossa = 16 - 3 = 13 Inaccurate armor, somewhat stiff animation, and as a previous poster (in a different thread) pointed out, he looks like a Playmobil knight. His background is a muddled morass of messy snow that neither inspires nor reminds of Germany in any way, shape or form.
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 20
Tomyris = 22
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 16

Moderator Action: Fixed Mvemba a Nzinga's vote total -- Jon

 

[Guandao]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 9
Qin Shi Huang = 3-3=0 Egg shaped, petulant emperor is eliminated
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 6+1=7 Like that she holds a wine glass
Frederick Barbarossa =13
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 20
Tomyris = 22
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 16

Moderator Action: Fixed Mvemba a Nzinga's vote total -- Jon

 

[MantaRevan]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22

John Curtin = 10 (9+1)
A little weird that he's a Ed Beach cameo (seriously, he looks more like Ed than John Curtin!) but I like him all the same. Nice attire, offers a leader from a different period of history, and helped me learn about an interesting character that I knew nothing about.

Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18

Catherine de Medici = 4 (7-3)
de Medici is awful. I agree that they did fairly well with a poor choice, but she's still a poor choice. Not French? Check. Not synergistic with her civ? Check. Not a good ruler? Check. Agenda doesn't make any sense either. How am I supposed to use spies before they become unlocked? The agendas should have constraints that prevent them from proc-ing from non-applicable situations, such as Harald for landlocked countries.

Frederick Barbarossa = 13
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 20
Tomyris = 22
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 16

EDIT: I got sniped into upvoting a dead leader. Going back to correct.

Moderator Action: Fixed Mvemba a Nzinga's vote total -- Jon

 

[Returning Lurker]

You forgot to include Guandao's upvote Medici should have 4.

 

[Guandao]

You forgot to include Guandao's upvote Medici should have 4.

Plus I eliminated Qin, so you have to vote for someone else

 

[joncnunn]

Moderator Action: Fixed Mvemba a Nzinga's vote total on several posts on this page.
Please be more careful when voting to avoid typos.

 

[DJ_Tanner]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 10
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 4
Frederick Barbarossa = 13
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 21 (20+1)
Tomyris = 19 (22-3)
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 16

Worst helmet best mustache

 

[The Kingmaker]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 10
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 1 (4-3) Got to vote somebody down, might as well be the French. (Or the Italian, in this case.) Who will go one further and give France the guillotine?
Frederick Barbarossa = 14 (13+1) I'm a Barbarossa fan, even though they bungled his armor.
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 20
Peter the Great = 21
Tomyris = 19
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 16

 

[Liufeng]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 10
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 1
Frederick Barbarossa = 14
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 19
Trajan = 21 I have to admit, his voice is beautiful and his characterization excellent !
Peter the Great = 21
Tomyris = 19
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 13 Destroy historical mistakes ! He's not Sumerian, he's Assyrian ! Like the whole civ ! So excited to have Sumer and Firaxis shattered my hopes ...

 

[Zaarin]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 10
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18
Catherine de Medici = 1
Frederick Barbarossa = 14
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 18 - 3 = 15 - Somehow his face looks unnervingly concave.
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 19 + 1 = 20 - I still think she's adorable.
Trajan = 21
Peter the Great = 21
Tomyris = 19
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 13

 

[Talcove]

Teddy Roosevelt = 23
Saladin = 22
John Curtin = 10
Cleopatra = 20
Victoria = 18 + 1 = 19 I love her attitude. Meeting her the first time, I love when she says, "... and, dare I say, Empire." Really dig that confidence!
Catherine de Medici = 1 - 3 = 0 I just really dislike the dull monochrome of her figure. Black and white can be done well, but it was not done well here.
Frederick Barbarossa = 14
Gorgo = 17
Pericles = 15
Hojo Tokimune = 23
Mvemba a Nzinga = 8
Harald Hadrada = 20
Cyrus the Great = 26
Jadwiga = 20
Trajan = 21
Peter the Great = 21
Tomyris = 19
Phillip II = 16
Gilgamesh = 13