Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
Why do you have Australia disabled? Because it's a colonial Civ? Or do you find them to be OP in your games?
Civ6's First Expansion: Who would you include?
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Why do you have Australia disabled? Because it's a colonial Civ? Or do you find them to be OP in your games?
Several reasons, but that I'm not a fan of Australia's inclusion in the first place is the biggest one. I also find Curtain's model to be unsettlingly ugly--not inhuman like Gandhi, but still very offputting. Also "Waltzing Matilda" drives me absolutely crazy.
Besides, if it were OP civs I were disabling I'd have Persia and Macedon disabled. (To my great misfortune, Alexander has literally appeared in every game I've played since the Persia/Macedon DLC was added. 
)
Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
Several reasons, but that I'm not a fan of Australia's inclusion in the first place is the biggest one. I also find Curtain's model to be unsettlingly ugly--not inhuman like Gandhi, but still very offputting. Also "Waltzing Matilda" drives me absolutely crazy.
I like Knorr's rendition of Waltzing Matilda.
So I'm going to do another post from the civs I want based on Guandao's post with three expansions:
First expansion:
1. Mayas (2 leaders, preferably)
2. Incas (Pachacuti)
3. Ethiopia (whichever is a good option)
4. Ottomans (whichever is a good option)
5. The Netherlands (Guilherme de Orange)
6. Portugal (whichever is a good option)
7. Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar II)
8. Mali (Mansa Musa)
Alternative Leaders:
Akbar or Ashoka, or both (India)
Ramses II (Egypt)
Second expansion:
1. Maori (whichever is a good option)
2. Korea (Sejong)
3. Ashanti (Yaa Asantewaa. Benin is also a good option)
4. Mongolia (Genghis Khan)
5. Morocco (whichever is a good option)
6. Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus)
7. Italy (2 leaders: Enrico Dandolo and Lorenzo de Medici)
8. Byzantines (whichever is a good option)
Alternative Leaders:
Napoleon Bonaparte (France)
Otto von Bismarck (Germany)
Third expansion:
1. Celts (or Gaul)
2. Iroquois (or other North America native)
3. Carthaginian (Hannibal)
4. Argentina (I have nothing against modern civs. Argentina is very interesting to me)
5. Canada (third former British colony, but it would be a negligence not to add Canada while we have Australia)
6. Vietnam (or Burma)
7. Hungary (or Austria. Or Bohemia)
8. Tupi (or other South America native. Muisca is also a good option)
Alternative Leaders:
Catherine (Russia)
Wu Zetian (China)
First expansion:
1. Mayas (2 leaders, preferably)
2. Incas (Pachacuti)
3. Ethiopia (whichever is a good option)
4. Ottomans (whichever is a good option)
5. The Netherlands (Guilherme de Orange)
6. Portugal (whichever is a good option)
7. Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar II)
8. Mali (Mansa Musa)
Alternative Leaders:
Akbar or Ashoka, or both (India)
Ramses II (Egypt)
Second expansion:
1. Maori (whichever is a good option)
2. Korea (Sejong)
3. Ashanti (Yaa Asantewaa. Benin is also a good option)
4. Mongolia (Genghis Khan)
5. Morocco (whichever is a good option)
6. Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus)
7. Italy (2 leaders: Enrico Dandolo and Lorenzo de Medici)
8. Byzantines (whichever is a good option)
Alternative Leaders:
Napoleon Bonaparte (France)
Otto von Bismarck (Germany)
Third expansion:
1. Celts (or Gaul)
2. Iroquois (or other North America native)
3. Carthaginian (Hannibal)
4. Argentina (I have nothing against modern civs. Argentina is very interesting to me)
5. Canada (third former British colony, but it would be a negligence not to add Canada while we have Australia)
6. Vietnam (or Burma)
7. Hungary (or Austria. Or Bohemia)
8. Tupi (or other South America native. Muisca is also a good option)
Alternative Leaders:
Catherine (Russia)
Wu Zetian (China)
Vahnstad
Emperor
Three expansions, okay.
DLC7:
Inca
Isabella I (Spain)
DLC8:
Sioux
First expansion:
Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar or Hammurabi)
Carthage (Hannibal)
Korea (Seondeok)
Mali (Mansa Musa)
Mayas (?)
Mongolia (Genghis Khan)
Netherlands (Willem van Oranje?)
Ottomans (Suleiman?)
Joan of Arc
Ashoka
DLC9:
Canada (but what scenario and which leader?
)
DLC10:
Gauls / Belgae: Ambiorix (i'd rather see this than modern representation of my country)
Rome leader: Julius Caesar
DLC11: Italian-themed
Florence (Lorenzo De Medici)
Venice (Enrico Dandolo)
Genoa?
DLC12:
Ethiopia (Haile Selassie)
Second expansion:
Byzantium (Justinian)
Colombia (Simon Bolivar)
Iroquois (Hiawatha)
Mughals (Akbar)
Portugal
Swahili / Kilwa
Sweden
Vietnam (Trung Sisters)
Ramesses II
Vladimir Lenin
DLC13:
Austria
Hungary
DLC14:
Maori
DLC15:
Ashanti / Ghana
DLC16:
Hittites
Third expansion:
Bohemia
Cuba (Fidel Castro)
Georgia (Tamar)
Muisca
Morocco
Romania (Vlad Dracula)
Siam
Zulu (Shaka)
Richard Lionheart (England)
Yongle (China)
Leaders pack (DLC17):
Napoleon
Augustus Caesar
Elizabeth II
George Washington
Otto Von Bismarck
Free DLC18:
Denmark
Last patch
30 years Civilization: Civilization VII in 2021 (and we are 300 euros poorer and lost 1000 hours of our lifetime)
This feels like cheating
DLC7:
Inca
Isabella I (Spain)
DLC8:
Sioux
First expansion:
Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar or Hammurabi)
Carthage (Hannibal)
Korea (Seondeok)
Mali (Mansa Musa)
Mayas (?)
Mongolia (Genghis Khan)
Netherlands (Willem van Oranje?)
Ottomans (Suleiman?)
Joan of Arc
Ashoka
DLC9:
Canada (but what scenario and which leader?
)DLC10:
Gauls / Belgae: Ambiorix (i'd rather see this than modern representation of my country)
Rome leader: Julius Caesar
DLC11: Italian-themed
Florence (Lorenzo De Medici)
Venice (Enrico Dandolo)
Genoa?
DLC12:
Ethiopia (Haile Selassie)
Second expansion:
Byzantium (Justinian)
Colombia (Simon Bolivar)
Iroquois (Hiawatha)
Mughals (Akbar)
Portugal
Swahili / Kilwa
Sweden
Vietnam (Trung Sisters)
Ramesses II
Vladimir Lenin
DLC13:
Austria
Hungary
DLC14:
Maori
DLC15:
Ashanti / Ghana
DLC16:
Hittites
Third expansion:
Bohemia
Cuba (Fidel Castro)
Georgia (Tamar)
Muisca
Morocco
Romania (Vlad Dracula)
Siam
Zulu (Shaka)
Richard Lionheart (England)
Yongle (China)
Leaders pack (DLC17):
Napoleon
Augustus Caesar
Elizabeth II
George Washington
Otto Von Bismarck
Free DLC18:
Denmark
Last patch
30 years Civilization: Civilization VII in 2021 (and we are 300 euros poorer and lost 1000 hours of our lifetime)
This feels like cheating
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Ok revision time with 3 expansions
DLC 7: Inca (Huyana Capac)
DLC: 8: Iroquois (Jigonhsasee), Canada (Lester Pearson)
First Expansion:
Dutch (William Van Oranje)
Italy (Lorenzo de Medici, Enrico Dadolo)
Mali (Mansa Musa)
Ottomans (Suleiman)
Korea (Sejong)
Mongolia (Kublai Khan)
Shaka (Zulu)
Babylon (Hammurabi)
Second Expansion:
Byzantium (Basil II)
Portugal (Joao II)
Ethiopia/Askum (Ezana)
Maya (Tikal)
Assyria (Ashurbapurnil II)
Gran Colombia (Simon Bolivar)
Sioux (Sitting Bull)
Carthage (Hannibal)
Third Expansion:
Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus)
Austria (Maria Theresa)
Argentina (Eva Peron)
Celts (Boudicca/ others?)
Vietnam (Trung Sisters? Don't know a lot about them)
Phoenicia (?) Not sure about a leader
Polynesia (Kamehameha?/ Maori/ Samoa )
Israel (King Solomon) This is a stretch
Alternate leaders for America (Jefferson), France, (LouisXIV from Versailles), Russia(from Moscow), Germany (modern from Berlin), Spain(Isabella), England (Churchill), India (Mughal Era), Egypt (male pharaoh)
DLC 7: Inca (Huyana Capac)
DLC: 8: Iroquois (Jigonhsasee), Canada (Lester Pearson)
First Expansion:
Dutch (William Van Oranje)
Italy (Lorenzo de Medici, Enrico Dadolo)
Mali (Mansa Musa)
Ottomans (Suleiman)
Korea (Sejong)
Mongolia (Kublai Khan)
Shaka (Zulu)
Babylon (Hammurabi)
Second Expansion:
Byzantium (Basil II)
Portugal (Joao II)
Ethiopia/Askum (Ezana)
Maya (Tikal)
Assyria (Ashurbapurnil II)
Gran Colombia (Simon Bolivar)
Sioux (Sitting Bull)
Carthage (Hannibal)
Third Expansion:
Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus)
Austria (Maria Theresa)
Argentina (Eva Peron)
Celts (Boudicca/ others?)
Vietnam (Trung Sisters? Don't know a lot about them)
Phoenicia (?) Not sure about a leader
Polynesia (Kamehameha?/ Maori/ Samoa )
Israel (King Solomon) This is a stretch
Alternate leaders for America (Jefferson), France, (LouisXIV from Versailles), Russia(from Moscow), Germany (modern from Berlin), Spain(Isabella), England (Churchill), India (Mughal Era), Egypt (male pharaoh)
Guatenadian
Prince
DLC9:
Canada (but what scenario and which leader?
Well if they wanted a more "modern" Canadian leader Lester B. Pearson would be the best choice, he helped define the modern foreign policy of Canada. But my personal preference would be Samuel de Champlain the "Father of New France" he would set us apart from the other former colonies since there hasn't been a former French colony in the game. I'm assuming a Canadian Civ would be an economic and diplomatic one. I doubt Canada would gets own scenario but I guess it could focus on Canada's westward expansion though that may controversial.
Gabriel Sergio
Warlord
I actually prefer Karl XII as leader. I think he is a good rival against Peter.
Liufeng
A man of his time
Indeed, there are european civilizations that may have come too early, notably Poland and Norway (or Australia, that is culturally european). They could have added Mali, a northern native american or the Mongols. But what is done is done, and we can only expect that they will slower a little with western european civs (I think I'll be good with the Netherlands and Portugal). Nevertheless, there are still some european I'd like to see, such as Bulgaria, Armenia, Georgia or Hungary.
1. Ottomans (led by Selim I) : Certainly some baklava, lokums, and coffee.
2. Portugal (led by John II) : He could present you green wine and cods (azulejos did not exist at his time)
3. Georgia (led by Tamar) : Certainly calligraphs and kantsis (o clear the throat while reading)
4. Babylon (led by Hammurabi) : I guess he'd offer cylinder seals, and clay tablets.
5. Inca (led by Huayna Capac) : I believe he could give lama wool and meat.
6. One Native north american civ
7. Mali (led by Mansa Musa) : Gold and a band of Griots
8. The Mongols (led by Genghis Khan) : He's offer you some Airag and arkhi
9. Korea (led by Seondeok) : Some celadon pottery would certainly appeal anyone
Now, people were wondering about a second expansion. Now, again there are choices to make, any of them easy, but I'll do my best to do so :
1. The Netherlands (led by Johann de Witt) : The Dutch are simply too important to let by, with their polders, their stock markets and their powerful colonial empire. However, I chose a different leader this time. Johan de Witt would obviously a leader focused on diplomacy and market. But he could also give a bonus in science since the man himself was a famous mathematician. Anf for a delegation, he's offer, of course, some tulips, edam and gouda (and no, he would not offer some herbs).
2. Bulgaria (led by Simeon I) : My personnal dark horse is the kingdom of those who once were horse riding nomads who would come to make one of the most powerful medieval empires, making of Preslav the equal of Constantinople (and conquering it by the way). The best figure to introduce them is certainly Simeon I, the great, who would obviously focus in conquering and reinforcing his inner empire, but also cultural. From Bulgaria, he could receive some martenitsa, wine and gadulkas.
3. Byzantium (led by Basil II) : Even if Byzantium is geographically located within the Ottoman empire or the Hittites, let's be honest, it has little to do with it. Plus, they've been a staple civ for a long time. My choice for a leader, to distinguish, is of course Basil II, the bulgar slayer, who would focus on diplomacy, but would conquer to the bitter end his ennemies (plus, it could allow a wonderful scenario between Arabia, Bulgaria and Byzantium). For a delegation, he's offer some Commandaria wine, pastirma, and a tavli board.
4. The Hittites (led by Puduhepa) : the powerful hittites are known around the forum as one of the most wanted return, and it is very understandable, as they are the master of irons, and the civ could focus on boni on strategic resources. However, the Middle-east clearly lacks some feminity (and no @Zaarin I'm still not convinced on Zenobia), and Puduhepa clearly is the woman every player needs, with a focus on diplomacy, alliances, and religion. Now, the delegation would certainly offer gold, silver, copper and iron.
5. Burma (led by Anawrahta) : Burma is the starter of the spread of Buddihsm throughout SE Asia, and also formed the largest empire there during the Taungoo dynasty. However, the one I'm interested is no Taungoo. Anawrahta would certainly be a good religious conqueror with a focus on getting relics (and certainly with an agenda based on them). Some lacquerware, longuis and parasols would satisfy his equals.
6. The Maya (led by Six Sky (Wac Chanil Ahau)) : Maya are a staple civ again, because they are certainly longest living civ in mesoamerica ! Also, it would be the first time we'd have a reigning woman from the region, with Lady Six focusing on building districts and conquering her neighbourhood, while the civ itself would certainly be a religious one. Anyone would accept some ceremonial masks and calendars as delegation gifts.
7. Another north american civ from the north, may it be Inuits, Haida or Tlingit : Again, I'll let the specialists discuss about it, since I'm no expert at all. I would just love a north american civ with boni on tundras and snow.
8. Ethiopia (led by Menelik II) : Ethiopia is a staple civ in the game, for a good reason. They are the exception in Africa, and one of the most admirable cultures in there. And since we're lacking later leaders, Menelik II is one of the best choices we have, focusing on the defense of his kingdom and science, since his goal was to modernize that very kingdom. No one would refuse some ethiopian delicacies like injera's with some wet.
9. The Swahili (led by Ali ibn al-Hassan) : Although I have not much hope for this one, since one of their most important cities is linked to an achievement, they were the Kings of the Indian ocean trade. WIth Ali ibn al-Hassan as their leader (even though from Persia, he was certainly black since he was the son of an ethiopian slave), their boni would certainly go to coast settling, trade and religion. I actually can't believe they were still not made into a civ ! For a delegation, kangas and ivory would certainly do the thing !
Actually, that seems fun. to do, so I'll try it with my choices (and according to the leader I chose) :
1. Ottomans (led by Selim I) : Certainly some baklava, lokums, and coffee.
2. Portugal (led by John II) : He could present you green wine and cods (azulejos did not exist at his time)
3. Georgia (led by Tamar) : Certainly calligraphs and kantsis (o clear the throat while reading)
4. Babylon (led by Hammurabi) : I guess he'd offer cylinder seals, and clay tablets.
5. Inca (led by Huayna Capac) : I believe he could give lama wool and meat.
6. One Native north american civ
7. Mali (led by Mansa Musa) : Gold and a band of Griots
8. The Mongols (led by Genghis Khan) : He's offer you some Airag and arkhi
9. Korea (led by Seondeok) : Some celadon pottery would certainly appeal anyone
Now, people were wondering about a second expansion. Now, again there are choices to make, any of them easy, but I'll do my best to do so :
1. The Netherlands (led by Johann de Witt) : The Dutch are simply too important to let by, with their polders, their stock markets and their powerful colonial empire. However, I chose a different leader this time. Johan de Witt would obviously a leader focused on diplomacy and market. But he could also give a bonus in science since the man himself was a famous mathematician. Anf for a delegation, he's offer, of course, some tulips, edam and gouda (and no, he would not offer some herbs).
2. Bulgaria (led by Simeon I) : My personnal dark horse is the kingdom of those who once were horse riding nomads who would come to make one of the most powerful medieval empires, making of Preslav the equal of Constantinople (and conquering it by the way). The best figure to introduce them is certainly Simeon I, the great, who would obviously focus in conquering and reinforcing his inner empire, but also cultural. From Bulgaria, he could receive some martenitsa, wine and gadulkas.
3. Byzantium (led by Basil II) : Even if Byzantium is geographically located within the Ottoman empire or the Hittites, let's be honest, it has little to do with it. Plus, they've been a staple civ for a long time. My choice for a leader, to distinguish, is of course Basil II, the bulgar slayer, who would focus on diplomacy, but would conquer to the bitter end his ennemies (plus, it could allow a wonderful scenario between Arabia, Bulgaria and Byzantium). For a delegation, he's offer some Commandaria wine, pastirma, and a tavli board.
4. The Hittites (led by Puduhepa) : the powerful hittites are known around the forum as one of the most wanted return, and it is very understandable, as they are the master of irons, and the civ could focus on boni on strategic resources. However, the Middle-east clearly lacks some feminity (and no @Zaarin I'm still not convinced on Zenobia), and Puduhepa clearly is the woman every player needs, with a focus on diplomacy, alliances, and religion. Now, the delegation would certainly offer gold, silver, copper and iron.
5. Burma (led by Anawrahta) : Burma is the starter of the spread of Buddihsm throughout SE Asia, and also formed the largest empire there during the Taungoo dynasty. However, the one I'm interested is no Taungoo. Anawrahta would certainly be a good religious conqueror with a focus on getting relics (and certainly with an agenda based on them). Some lacquerware, longuis and parasols would satisfy his equals.
6. The Maya (led by Six Sky (Wac Chanil Ahau)) : Maya are a staple civ again, because they are certainly longest living civ in mesoamerica ! Also, it would be the first time we'd have a reigning woman from the region, with Lady Six focusing on building districts and conquering her neighbourhood, while the civ itself would certainly be a religious one. Anyone would accept some ceremonial masks and calendars as delegation gifts.
7. Another north american civ from the north, may it be Inuits, Haida or Tlingit : Again, I'll let the specialists discuss about it, since I'm no expert at all. I would just love a north american civ with boni on tundras and snow.
8. Ethiopia (led by Menelik II) : Ethiopia is a staple civ in the game, for a good reason. They are the exception in Africa, and one of the most admirable cultures in there. And since we're lacking later leaders, Menelik II is one of the best choices we have, focusing on the defense of his kingdom and science, since his goal was to modernize that very kingdom. No one would refuse some ethiopian delicacies like injera's with some wet.
9. The Swahili (led by Ali ibn al-Hassan) : Although I have not much hope for this one, since one of their most important cities is linked to an achievement, they were the Kings of the Indian ocean trade. WIth Ali ibn al-Hassan as their leader (even though from Persia, he was certainly black since he was the son of an ethiopian slave), their boni would certainly go to coast settling, trade and religion. I actually can't believe they were still not made into a civ ! For a delegation, kangas and ivory would certainly do the thing !
Lord of War N02
Grand Master of the East
This time I will post based on three expansions and upcoming DLC, first expansion in my wishlist wont be same as my previous post, I will do new 9 civs based expansion and 5 leaders like CIV IV BTS
DLC 07: Inca (Manco Capac)
DLC 08: Cherokee (Attakullakulla)
First Expansion:
Netherlands (Wilhelmina) - Western European
Hungary (Stephen I) - Eastern European
Turkey (Osman I) - Eastern European/Western Asia
Korea (Seondeok) - East Asia
Phoenicia (Hannibal) - North Africa, This time Carthage should be merged with Phoenicia
Mali (Sundiata Keita) - Subsaharan Africa
Mongolia (Ogadei Khan) - East Asia
Iroquois (Joseph Brant) - North Native American
Celts (Vercingetorix) - Western European
New Leaders:
Qianlong (China)
Alfred the Great (England)
Khufu (Egypt)
Akbar (India), I think Mughal should be leader of India
Khrosrau I (Persia), if you don't own DLC 04, you wont able to play Cyrus II
Scenario:
Ottoman conquest:
Dutch War of Independence
Peloponnesian war
Three Kingdoms of China
DLC for first expansion
1st DLC: Sioux (Sitting Bulls), Apache (Mangas Coloradas) and Shoshone (Washakie), Scenario: American Indian War - Northern Native American theme
2nd DLC: Portugal (Afonso Henriques) and Ethiopia (Tewodros II) Scenario: Indian Ocean scenario - Indian Ocean DLC theme
3rd DLC: Canada (John A Mcdonald) Scenario: not sure
4th DLC: Hittites (Suppiluliuma I) Scenario: Ancient World
5th DLC: Leader pack 1 (Good old days leader pack part 1): Julius Caesar (Rome), Frederick II (Germany), Kublai Khan (Mongolia), Lincoln (America), Boudica (Celts) - Leaders return from CIV IV
6th DLC: Leader pack 2 (Random Leader pack 1): Lenin (Russia), Sukarno (Indonesia), Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan(Arabia), Alfonso X (Spain), Pilsudski (Poland)
Free DLC: Goths (Alaric)
Second Expansion:
Babylon (Hammurabi) - West Asia
Byzantium (Basil II) - Eastern Europe
Zulu (Shaka) - Sub-Saharan Africa
Denmark (Margaret I) - Western Europe
Siam (Naresuan) - Southeast Asia
Maya (K'inich Yax K'uk' Mo') - Central America
Berbers/Maghreb (Yusuf ibn Tashfin) - North Africa
Austria (Franz Joseph) - Western Europe
Polynesia (Kalakaua) - Oceania
Scenario:
Sengoku Jidai
World War I
Byzantine Reconquest
Thirty Years War
New Leaders:
Kanmu (Japan)
Louis I (Hungary)
Vargas (Brazil)
Menelik (Ethiopia)
Haakon VII (Norway)
DLC for second expansion:
1st DLC: Serbia (Stefan Dusan), Bulgaria (Simeon I), Romania (Vlad Dracula) Scenario: Balkan War - Balkan DLC theme
2nd DLC: Sweden (Karl XII) Scenario: Baltic War
3rd DLC: Burma (Bayinnaung) and Vietnam (Le Loi) New Leader: Suryavarman II (Khmer) Scenario: Medieval Indochina - Indochinese DLC theme
4th DLC: Israel (David), Scenario: Biblical Israel
5th DLC: Leader Pack 3 (Medieval theme leader): Alp Arslan (Turkey), Edward III (England), Genghis Khan (Mongolia), Charlemagne (France and Germany) and Mansa Musa (Mali)
6th DLC: Leader Pack 4 (Good Old day leader part 2): Sejong (Korea), Napoleon (France), Washington (America), Suleiman (Turkey) and Harun al Rashid (Arabia) - leaders return from CIV V
Free DLC: Eastern European leader pack: Rurik (Russia), Serbia (Karadorde), Alexander Ion Cuza (Romania), Stefan Stambolov (Bulgaria) and Boleslaw (Poland)
Third Expansion:
Tibet (Songsten Gampo) - East Asia
Dravidian (Rajendra Chola) - South Asia (Dravidian need to be separated from India as Dravidians are ignored in CIV series as there are no Dravidian leaders for India before and city name list for India will be changed)
Argentina (Juan Peron) - South America
Lithuania (Mindaugas I) - Eastern Europe
Ashanti - Western Africa
Tatars/Turkestan (Timur) - Central Asia (Central Asian Turks needed to be in the game as its represent Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and other Turkics like Uyghurs)
Finland (Mannerheim) - Western Europe
Assyria (Ashurbanipal) - West Asia
Zapotec (Cosijoeza) - Central America
Scenario:
India 12-13th Century which includes Muslim sultantes in the North and Hindu kingdoms in the South
American Revolutionary War
French Revolutionary War
Timur's conquest
DLC for Third Expansion
1st DLC: Armenia (Tiridates III) and Georgia (Tamar) - Caucasian DLC theme
2nd DLC: Italy (Francesco I Sforza and Lorenzo de Medici) Scenario: Italian Wars
3rd DLC: Leader Pack 5 (Modern Asian leader pack) Sun Yat Sen (China), Ito Hirobumi (Japan), Phibunsongkhram (Siam), Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam) and Aung San (Burma)
4th DLC: Leader Pack 6 (Random Leader pack 3) Shivaji (India), Nader Shah (Persia), Isabella (Spain), John IV (Portugal) and Itzcoatl (Aztec)
5th DLC: Mexico (Agustín de Iturbide) and Gran Colombia (Simon Bolivar), Scenario: Latin American independence War
6th DLC: Leader Pack 7 (Ancient Leader theme): Hiram I(Phoenicia), Hezekiah (Israel), Constantine (Rome), Rameses II (Egypt) and Epaminondas (Greece)
Free DLC: Good Old days leader part 3 Pachacuti (Inca), Nebuchadnezzar II (Babylon), Hiawatha (Iroquois), Gustavus Adolphus (Sweden), Justinian (Byzantine)
DLC 07: Inca (Manco Capac)
DLC 08: Cherokee (Attakullakulla)
First Expansion:
Netherlands (Wilhelmina) - Western European
Hungary (Stephen I) - Eastern European
Turkey (Osman I) - Eastern European/Western Asia
Korea (Seondeok) - East Asia
Phoenicia (Hannibal) - North Africa, This time Carthage should be merged with Phoenicia
Mali (Sundiata Keita) - Subsaharan Africa
Mongolia (Ogadei Khan) - East Asia
Iroquois (Joseph Brant) - North Native American
Celts (Vercingetorix) - Western European
New Leaders:
Qianlong (China)
Alfred the Great (England)
Khufu (Egypt)
Akbar (India), I think Mughal should be leader of India
Khrosrau I (Persia), if you don't own DLC 04, you wont able to play Cyrus II
Scenario:
Ottoman conquest:
Dutch War of Independence
Peloponnesian war
Three Kingdoms of China
DLC for first expansion
1st DLC: Sioux (Sitting Bulls), Apache (Mangas Coloradas) and Shoshone (Washakie), Scenario: American Indian War - Northern Native American theme
2nd DLC: Portugal (Afonso Henriques) and Ethiopia (Tewodros II) Scenario: Indian Ocean scenario - Indian Ocean DLC theme
3rd DLC: Canada (John A Mcdonald) Scenario: not sure
4th DLC: Hittites (Suppiluliuma I) Scenario: Ancient World
5th DLC: Leader pack 1 (Good old days leader pack part 1): Julius Caesar (Rome), Frederick II (Germany), Kublai Khan (Mongolia), Lincoln (America), Boudica (Celts) - Leaders return from CIV IV
6th DLC: Leader pack 2 (Random Leader pack 1): Lenin (Russia), Sukarno (Indonesia), Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan(Arabia), Alfonso X (Spain), Pilsudski (Poland)
Free DLC: Goths (Alaric)
Second Expansion:
Babylon (Hammurabi) - West Asia
Byzantium (Basil II) - Eastern Europe
Zulu (Shaka) - Sub-Saharan Africa
Denmark (Margaret I) - Western Europe
Siam (Naresuan) - Southeast Asia
Maya (K'inich Yax K'uk' Mo') - Central America
Berbers/Maghreb (Yusuf ibn Tashfin) - North Africa
Austria (Franz Joseph) - Western Europe
Polynesia (Kalakaua) - Oceania
Scenario:
Sengoku Jidai
World War I
Byzantine Reconquest
Thirty Years War
New Leaders:
Kanmu (Japan)
Louis I (Hungary)
Vargas (Brazil)
Menelik (Ethiopia)
Haakon VII (Norway)
DLC for second expansion:
1st DLC: Serbia (Stefan Dusan), Bulgaria (Simeon I), Romania (Vlad Dracula) Scenario: Balkan War - Balkan DLC theme
2nd DLC: Sweden (Karl XII) Scenario: Baltic War
3rd DLC: Burma (Bayinnaung) and Vietnam (Le Loi) New Leader: Suryavarman II (Khmer) Scenario: Medieval Indochina - Indochinese DLC theme
4th DLC: Israel (David), Scenario: Biblical Israel
5th DLC: Leader Pack 3 (Medieval theme leader): Alp Arslan (Turkey), Edward III (England), Genghis Khan (Mongolia), Charlemagne (France and Germany) and Mansa Musa (Mali)
6th DLC: Leader Pack 4 (Good Old day leader part 2): Sejong (Korea), Napoleon (France), Washington (America), Suleiman (Turkey) and Harun al Rashid (Arabia) - leaders return from CIV V
Free DLC: Eastern European leader pack: Rurik (Russia), Serbia (Karadorde), Alexander Ion Cuza (Romania), Stefan Stambolov (Bulgaria) and Boleslaw (Poland)
Third Expansion:
Tibet (Songsten Gampo) - East Asia
Dravidian (Rajendra Chola) - South Asia (Dravidian need to be separated from India as Dravidians are ignored in CIV series as there are no Dravidian leaders for India before and city name list for India will be changed)
Argentina (Juan Peron) - South America
Lithuania (Mindaugas I) - Eastern Europe
Ashanti - Western Africa
Tatars/Turkestan (Timur) - Central Asia (Central Asian Turks needed to be in the game as its represent Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and other Turkics like Uyghurs)
Finland (Mannerheim) - Western Europe
Assyria (Ashurbanipal) - West Asia
Zapotec (Cosijoeza) - Central America
Scenario:
India 12-13th Century which includes Muslim sultantes in the North and Hindu kingdoms in the South
American Revolutionary War
French Revolutionary War
Timur's conquest
DLC for Third Expansion
1st DLC: Armenia (Tiridates III) and Georgia (Tamar) - Caucasian DLC theme
2nd DLC: Italy (Francesco I Sforza and Lorenzo de Medici) Scenario: Italian Wars
3rd DLC: Leader Pack 5 (Modern Asian leader pack) Sun Yat Sen (China), Ito Hirobumi (Japan), Phibunsongkhram (Siam), Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam) and Aung San (Burma)
4th DLC: Leader Pack 6 (Random Leader pack 3) Shivaji (India), Nader Shah (Persia), Isabella (Spain), John IV (Portugal) and Itzcoatl (Aztec)
5th DLC: Mexico (Agustín de Iturbide) and Gran Colombia (Simon Bolivar), Scenario: Latin American independence War
6th DLC: Leader Pack 7 (Ancient Leader theme): Hiram I(Phoenicia), Hezekiah (Israel), Constantine (Rome), Rameses II (Egypt) and Epaminondas (Greece)
Free DLC: Good Old days leader part 3 Pachacuti (Inca), Nebuchadnezzar II (Babylon), Hiawatha (Iroquois), Gustavus Adolphus (Sweden), Justinian (Byzantine)
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AnonymousSpeed
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So, if they added Powhatan, Vercingetorix and a Tiglath-Pileser III, would you enable Australia?
Honestly, Australia's weird. Not because of itself, but because of how people react to it. I was under the impression that Australia was a pretty popular fan request, but now that it's out the reaction seems less positive. Perhaps that's just do to the circumstances it found itself in, like having Poland added before Mongolia.
I won't be making a full prediction line-up for this game (but Korea for DLC and Byzantium for Expansion 1 totally called it), but I don't think we'll get a third expansion. Maybe I place too much emphasis on precedent and tradition here, but with the rate at which DLC is being released, I don't think we'll really need a third expansion. We already have 26 civs in the game.
Vahnstad
Emperor
There were literally a 100 better options than Australia, and why people want an Australia civ. Well probably because many Australians play the game, it's a large country that exists today (but not in number of population) and because they should all play a Cold War Game where Australia also was kinda irrelevant, but it doesn't deserve a civ just like Canada wouldn't deserve a civ, and just like my country Belgium doesn't deserve a civ either or Switzerland (like some did suggest).
There are many people who want a WW2 scenario also with their leaders, but that wouldn't fit for Civilization either, and i wouldn't been a fan of it. Also because Churchill, FDR and De Gaulle are glorified which i do not like (and was also kinda not right).
There are many people who want a WW2 scenario also with their leaders, but that wouldn't fit for Civilization either, and i wouldn't been a fan of it. Also because Churchill, FDR and De Gaulle are glorified which i do not like (and was also kinda not right).
I agree. Since I am a member of this forum, I realized that Australia (as well as Canada) was a quite desired civ, many Australian mods were made, and it seemed to be very popular. But when Australia was officially included, I did not expect such a negative repercussion, it may be because it came too early to game, or because Australia is a third British civ in the game. Maybe if Australia were included in an expansion, people would not complain so much.
I particularly have nothing against Australia, I would only include it later to the game. My preference for first Oceania civ would be Maori or Polynesian.
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I expect that @Zaarin would complain even more, since he won't be able to disable Australia without disabling the entire expansion pack
1st expansion:
- Ottoman Empire (Mehmed II/Suleiman/...)
- Incan Empire (Pachacuti/Huayna Capac)
- Korea (Seondok/Sejong/...)
- Mongolia (Genghis Khan/Ögedei Khan)
- Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar II/Hammurabi/Nabopolassar)
- Mali/Songhai/Benin/Ashanti (Mansa Musa (Mali)/Sonni Ali (Songhai)/Askia Muhammad (Songhai)/Idia (Benin)/Osei Kofi Tutu (Ashanti)/...)
- Dutch Empire (Willem van Oranje)
- Some NA tribe (...)
- Mayans (...)
2nd expansion:
- Byzantium (Justinian/Basil II/Alexios I Komnenos/...)
- Portugal (João II)
- Carthage (Hannibal Barca)
- Morocco (Ahmad al-Mansur)
- Ethiopia (Menelik II)
- 2nd NA tribe (...)
- Bohemia/Hungary/Austria* (Charles IV (Bohemia)/Ottokar II (Bohemia)/Wenceslaus II (Bohemia and Poland)/Matthias Corvinus (Hungary)/Joseph II (Austria)/Maria Theresa (Austria)/Rudolph II (Austria)/...)**
- Maori/Hawaii (Hongi Hika (Maori)/Kamehameha I (Hawaii)
- Italy (led by Venice (Enrico Dandolo) and Florence (Lorenzo de' Medici))
3rd expansion:
- Mughal Empire**** (Akbar the Great/Shah Jahan)
- Assyria (Ashurbanipal)
- Colonial Civ (Canada/Mexico/Argentina/...) (...)
- Siam/Burma/Vietnam (Ramkhamhaeng (Siam)/Naresuan (Siam)/Narai (Siam)/...)
- Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus)
- Serbia/Bulgaria/Romania (...)
- Zulu (Shaka)
- Celts/Gauls/... (Vercingetorix/Boudicca)
- Timurid Empire (Timur) I didn't know what to choose so I picked the Timurid Empire. I'll probably change it later.
If there had to be second leaders, I'd pick these Civs:
- India**** (Ashoka/Shivaji/Chandragupta Maurya/...)
- Egypt (Ramses II/Thutmose III/Hatshepsut/Senusret III/...)
- France (Philipe Auguste/Napoleon/Louis XIV/...)
- England (Alfred the Great/William the Conqueror/...)
- America (George Washington/Abraham Lincoln/...)
- Persia (...)
- China (Yongle/Taizong/Kangxi/Wu Zetian/...)
* The three countries ranked how much I want them: Bohemia > Hungary > Austria***
** The list of leaders is so long because I live in the Czech Republic and Bohemia/Austria*** were two countries we studied most in History.
*** Austria = Duchy/Archduchy of Austria, Habsburg Monarchy and Austria-Hungary.
****There is also a possibility of making Mughals the alternate leaders of India instead of their own Civ.
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I except that @Zaarin would complain even more, since he won't be able to disable Australia without disabling the entire expansion pack
That is true
, but I believe there are mods that can exclude unwanted civilizations, though.
@Kimiimaro @Xandinho I'm not sure I would have ever been ecstatic about Australia--but then I'm probably among the few who would be completely okay with no colonies, including the US. But yeah, having Australia before the rest of the world gets filled in definitely feels like rubbing salt in the wound. If we must have more European colonies in the expansions, though, I think I'd favor Canada, especially if it's early Canada rather than modern.
But yeah, having Australia before the rest of the world gets filled in definitely feels like rubbing salt in the wound. If we must have more European colonies in the expansions, though, I think I'd favor Canada, especially if it's early Canada rather than modern.
Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
It's time for tradition to be broken.
If there are more DLCs adding new Civs between the two Expansions for Civ6, I would be fine with not having a third expansion. However, I do prefer having Expansions than paying individually for DLCs. There's still enough potential Civs for a third expansion.
AnonymousSpeed
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Well, if anything is the theme of Civ6...It's time for tradition to be broken.
Another civ which might be DLC is the Zulus. Being such a staple, they might bank on the fact that people will buy them because of course they have to. However, since some people *cough Zaarin cough* don't like them, they might sneak them in with an expansion pack so they have no choice in the matter.
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