CivDip XIII - Dancing with the Devil!

[Arminius]

Builds Received:

Austria builds an ARMY in VIENNA.

England builds a FLEET in EDINBURGH and a FLEET in LONDON.

France builds an ARMY in PARIS.

Germany removes the ARMY in HOLLAND.

Italy builds a FLEET in NAPLES.

Russia builds a FLEET in SEVASTOPOL.

Turkey does NOTHING.

Orders due Tuesday, 15 March 2005 @ 2359 GMT.

EDIT: Attaching the map is a good idea!

 

[Sheep]

How can we tell whose centres are whose?

 

[Keirador]

Memory. And Arminius tends to make lists of supply centre ownership when he posts orders.

 

[Arminius]

It's in the last adjucation, but here's an repost of it:




Supply Center Ownership:


Austria: Budapest, Bulgaria, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna (5 total).
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, St. Petersburg (5 total).
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain (6 total).
Germany: Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich (4 total).
Italy: Greece, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice (5 total).
Russia: Berlin, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, Sweden, Warsaw (6 total).
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Smyrna (3 total).

 

[Gnarfflinger]

I would have liked to builf a couple armies, but there's a little problem with the rules not allowing it...

 

[Arminius]

Newsyear Magazine
“We know everything and write what we like.”​

Publish Date: May 1903​

♠ Russian Revolution!?!
The Russian military refused to move this season. While it did not cause undue losses, it cannot be good for the reputation of the Tsar, who “cannot be bothered” according to his chamberlain due to his involvement in hosting a board game.

♠ Astonishing Luck!
The Ottomans have pulled one out of their rectal orifice this season. They managed to destroy the Austrian Army in Bulgaria, and they survived the Russian military sitting near their home supply centers with enough sea vessels to capture the Black Sea!

♠ England Under the Gun?
The English Channel was attacked and captured by the French, while the Germans assaulted the English Fleet in the North Sea. Perhaps England has had the tables reversed on it! Stay tuned!

Orders:

Austria
Army Bulgaria S Italian Fleet Ionian - Greece
Army Serbia S Army Bulgaria
Army Budapest Hold
Army Veinna Hold
Fleet Albania - Adriatic Sea

England
F St. Petersburg (North Coast) S A Yorkshire - Norway
F North Sea C A Yorkshire - Norway
A Yorkshire - Norway
F London S F North Sea C A Yorkshire – Norway (I assumed that means support the F)
F Edinburgh - Clyde

France
F Belgium - English Channel
A Burgunday - Belgium
A Paris - Picardy
F Mid Atlantic Ocean HOLD
A Gascony HOLD
A Brest HOLD

Germany
A Kiel S Ruhr-Munich
A Ruhr-Munich
F Denmark-North Sea
F Helgoland Bight-Holland

Italy
Army Greece to Albania
Fleet Ionian Sea to Greece
Fleet Naples to Ionian Sea
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea C A Tunisia to Tuscany
Army Tunisia to Tuscany

Russia
NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!! NMR!!!

Turkey
A Con - Bul
F Aeg S A Con - Bul
F Bla A Con - Bul (I assumed you forgot your ‘S’)

Supply Center Ownership:
Haven’t changed!

Orders due Monday, 21 March 2005 @ 2359 GMT.

 

[Arminius]

:suicide: :suicide: :suicide:

 

[Sheep]

Umm I was under the thought that we were on indefinente hiatus and didnt receive any notification that we were still on. Oh well I am still in, this just sets me back a big bit

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Arminius had moved the deadline to Thursday night. Getting provisionals in is important just to cover your ass in came of snafu.

 

[Arminius]

I sent an email that gave the new deadline and I even sent you a PM after you missed the deadline giving you a 6 hours grace-period due to the moving deadline. I know you got online after I sent that PM and yet I still did not receive orders. That's why I gave you an NMR. Tough luck, mate.

 

[Sheep]

Its all good. I am still in.

 

[Gnarfflinger]

That's okay, Sheep, take as long a vacation as you need...

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Orders due Monday, 21 March 2005 @ 2359 GMT.

Not resolving the turn Arminius?

 

[Dreadnought]

Mabye he is out or something...

 

[Arminius]

Newsyear Magazine
“We know everything and write what we like.”​

Publish Date: October 1903​

♠ American Spring Break…? WTH? This is EUROPE!!!
The Publisher apologizes for being late. He is an American, and Spring Break is this week. It is unfortunate that you were not given further warnings, and great strides will be made towards preparing a better memory for the Publisher. However, it is still Spring Break, so you might consider yourself luck that he remembered at all.

The Russian Army in Berlin, and the Turkish Fleet in the Aegean Sea both must vacate their current provinces.

Orders:

Austria
Army Vienna - Trieste
Army Serbia - Bulgaria
Army Budapest - Serbia
Fleet Adratic Convoy Italian Army Albania - Venice

England
A Norway - Denmark
F St.Petersburg (North Coast) - Norway
F London S F North Sea
F North Sea C A Norway - Denmark
F Clyde - Liverpool

France
F Mid Atlantic Ocean - Spain South Coast
F English Channel Convoy A Brest - Belgium
A Brest - Belgium
A Belgium - Ruhr
A Gascony HOLD
A Picardy Support A Brest - Belgium

Germany
Army Kiel supports Munich-Berlin
Army Munich-Berlin
Fleet Denmark supports Holland-North Sea
Fleet Holland-North Sea

Italy
F Greece to Aegean Sea
A Albania to Greece
F Ionian Sea Support F Greece to Aegean Sea
A Tuscany to Piemonte
F Tyrhennian Sea to Gulf of Lyon

Russia
F Swe H
A Sil - Mun
A Ber S A Sil - Mun
A Rum - Bul
F Sev - Arm
F Arm - Ank

Turkey
A Bul - Con
F Bla S A Rum - Bul
F Aeg S A Rum - Bul

Supply Center Ownership:
Haven’t changed, yet!


Retreats due Thursday, 28 March 2005 @ 1259 GMT.

 

[Arminius]

Oh, and kOc, can I borrow your crayons? Mine are being 'used' on the beach?

 

[Dreadnought]

This is what I feel is one of the bad points of Diplomacy.

A nation (Turkey) knows he is going to die, so he actually supports another nations units into his territory (Russia) so that the other nation (ME) would not get it. I find that completely wrong. Just because we had maybe said something in our negotiations doesn't mean that the other nation deserves your territories your giving him. Both nations used irrational tactics (in a bad way) to both get what they wanted: 1. More centers (Russia) 2. For another naion not to get his supply centers (Turkey and me). Why you just wouldn't defend your centers and die honorly is beyond me; going down as a turncoat, giving your centers to another nation freely, is simply unjustified. I think you let personal problems (which I am not aware of) to say

"I am going to die. Hey Russia, want my centers? I do not want the Austrian to have them!"

So, I am now afraid to try to force what I want through Gnarfflinger, because he might just give his centers to someone else!

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Oh, Russia is going to get mullered now if it is the last thing I do. Hopefully I won't be alone in this crusade and I think he has aggravated enough nations that his destruction will be imminent.

As for the gimp playing Turkey...for shame! Turkey need not have lost a centre, instead he gifts Russia two DL ALERT

Quite simply the worse play I've seen to date in a civdip game...

This is one aspect of the game that cannot be accounted for, either disasterous play or NMR by one nation and how it impacts on others.

 

[Sheep]

Actually I kinda tricked him if he will kindly show you the email.

The negoations kind of went like this.

Russia: I kind of need more centre's right? So here it goes. If you let me have Bulgaria I will then attack Austria!
Turkey: And if I dont give you Bulgaria?
Russia: I will support Austria in.
Turkey: Well I guess I will support you in.

Now as for the Ankara bit that was just pure stab.

So I am sorry Turkey, to destroy you like this, but I Austria is the only one I am remotely friendly with at the moment. (that is an understatement of course but why would I openly reveal who my friends are?) Having said that, can I get an apology from the other players because of their persumption to think I would agree to do such a thing.

 

[Sheep]

I will also be retreating the army in Berlin to Prussia. I dont see why this would need to be a secret