Hello new member to forums,
Welcome to the forums. I'm guessing English is not your native language, so please don't take the following replies as insults.
Since this is the most current thread i saw and knowing my reasoning for looking through i saw no info what i was looking for and should point out im new to Civ-V but not new to the topic
Perhaps if you mentioned what you were looking for, some of us may be able to assist you?
Instead of trying to discuss what someone would be looking for here which would be info on Civ-V problems/deterrents of why a player would chose one version over another most the posts about the topic are so long and off base that im leaving my comment to just a rant
Um, for the most part, it's not about choosing one over the other, it's about what's irritating us about Civ V. As for being long and off base, maybe you should read some of the pages that you've casually dismissed and find out that there are quite a few valid arguements.
lol, from what i read is most the rants are about civ-v being bad for unknown reasoning where people point out whats missing and the news is a lot if you compare the versions next to each other but looking outside the box one person mentioned internet, hes probably right since that's how i see civ-v turned out to be aimed at multi-player to compete but (omg) however is discussing such games like Oblivion,mine-craft etc is way off.
Incorrect. A lot of the reasons are know, and well stated in this very thread.
Not even turned based games, like civilization pioneered and is only TBS on the market so ill start there, its a good place to start saying and defining whats missing and what civilization is /(now) was.
Interesting assertation. However, Civ is not the only TBS on the market. There are actually quite a few TBS games currently on the market, and some of them are even discussed in this very thread
Im all about turn based games and growing up in the 1980's guessing i have some experience which reminds me of someone mentioning simcity, still not even close to this genre, still his point was sitting hours and days building ,
Agreed, the 1 more turn syndrome was of epic proportions. Thank the gods for Civ Anonymos!
(keep in mind building only not conquering or competing with todays fast paced RTS games which rule the market) and not seeing the depth. What depth in any of these examples and other non-TBS games have to do with a TBS game!
Not exactly sure what your trying to say here. RTS and TBS are different systems, although the basic premise is the same.
Finally getting to where i say whats missing from civilization is a lot and need to try comparing civilization to its predecessors . I will start the discussion there with everything above and more of what i didnt read because im not digging through 97 pages of mis-guided information as a forum wardrobe malfunction
Again, perhaps digging through these 97 pgs may assist you with your current quandry. As for mis-guided information, perhaps you could substantiate your thesis with some facts? Oh, and I happen to like my duck slippers, so leave my wardrobe out of this
so nuke that noise like the icon says
ill give 1 example to state my thought and that is
Romance Series. RoTTK ( romance of the three kingdoms) is a line of games that isnt dead an i dont care how long out of circulation a person is cant miss it if you actually bought civilization .... (dot) any of them!
Great series, love some better than others, but still great.
Look at it and every other TBS like ill go way back Genghis Khan or
nobunaga's ambition oh ya! if you clicked the link let me point out the box cover, scary and intimidating isn't it.
Again, good games.
Both those games and many other i didn't mention carry whats missing and there is way to much to say but this, they all carry border wars, the player must allocate resources to raise a capable military force, provide a productive economy to support both military and civilian expansion, Diplomatic and get this when you battle which is all civilization is as a whole game is
hex map battles, most is diplomatic
. These example and where they lead walk a fine line until you realize and research the 2010+ versions and look at the added city builders and what Koie did, yes all costs money and food except, have to say a way better system of managing it nad i dont have to wait to get a great general
All of which Civ V blew chunks at, hence the 97 page rant thread.
Not to say the added generals and warlords where bad in fact i loved how the worked and non of the content was ment to be fact based like a lot of people in this thread like to throw around as a civilization mechanic that dosnt make senese. Its a game, get over it its not fact just uses known pieces of history.
I'm a bit confused here. Are you saying people who've spent a great deal of time and research, perfecting there games and posting reviews to assist other civ fanatics, all of a sudden don't know anything and should just get over it? A little clarification would be appreciated please.
Never hear any compliants about other games like, "that games lame no one can spider jump 4 buildings and live. Thats just
unreal" ... (dot)

nuke that noise too.
Perhaps you've haven't really looked that deeply into a lot of game forums. May I suggest you take a peek and revise your statement?
New version of RoTTK 15 took me 2 months just to learn and allows buildings in a stand alone city builder,
Um, just for amusement value and a helpful learning experiance for you, perhaps you should take a quick peek at there forums and find out some interesting tidbits.
Im just a fan of those series lines but for what anyone looking to say they need a closer exaple its simple to just link the origins HERE
4X games
but what comes to mind is command and conquer boo! How about this community tried Dune
you'll find that quite a few members of this community has a vast experiance with a myriad array of games.
How about Dune II
i know those are RTS's ok how about
FreeCol that one free OS(open sourced)
OK, that one is a clone, hmm uh oh how about
Good OS game. Try Civ- Evo, it'll make you improve your game big time.
Master of Orion I,II, or III carry all the elements of civilization, but saying civilization is alone, think not. But those carry what civilization does or try's to do.
here is something lacking in civilization Barricades - Forts and defensive structures loss functionality soon as enemy goes around them easy to avoid and limited to 1 choice, how about some traps or even better ambush's or HIDDEN units like spy's in civ-4
Civ III had forts I believe, Civ IV has walls and castles. Several mods do some interesting work as well. I really like your ambush idea though. Reminds me of Partiesians in Civ II.
But just looking at my stand point of the competitors that someone says dont exsist or civilization is in its own genre are mistaken big time
Civ-5 is Way to graphical for TBS , the taxing system requirements and eating 8GB out of 12GB says so , almost through trying to make civ-5 a game i will play honestly.
Agree with you here. Corporate greed at it's finest.
The question shouldn't be whats wrong, it should be what isn't wrong for being a TBS which even 30 years ago people knew a TBS couldn't look as good as said (button masher) games, but here it is and i think here it lays to rest.
A TBS can look great, it just doesn't need mass computer power dedicated to graphics alone. Disagree about it being laid to rest. But hey, it's your rant
The 4X link is key, thinking the game is getting dumb down as said shouldn't be the thought, im just glad i was educated in a much simpler time where need information about a subject isn't lost or garbled . A lot is aimed at what the company wants a person to see and that's just not what its about its about the
4X engine platform these games are run on.
Um, HUH? that's one of the main issues in this thread. As for the company, it cares more about it's profit margin than the customer.
Shouldn't be a matter of looking at whats been taken out an added, what should be looked at is could the game even perform what people wanted and that should answer a lot of why's to what been taken out because its all to much for this type game to run if looking for a answer to something is different. There is a lot company's don't mention , its falsely marketed as plain as the recommended sys req's on the side of the box and its hard to return DL down loadable content but that's not news to me, people already want DL content to go an i agree, i say let company's go under and become
Abandonware and lets keep the running list going i say.
Welcome to 2k's sloppy wet kiss to it's fans
Hope i have enlightened someone an some of this information helps and believe me if the games slow now, it will take what its always took for games pushing like this to run correctly , and thats years before the public can afford it. Anyways thats my rant on this one so far.
Feel free to add to it