Civilization VII Civs and Leaders Wishlist [Not a Prediction]

[Bonyduck Campersang]

I wouldn't have Babur as a Mughal leader: for him India was only a launching pad to recapture his Central Asian possessions

 

[BuchiTaton]

I wouldn't have Babur as a Mughal leader: for him India was only a launching pad to recapture his Central Asian possessions

I think is matter of perspective but for people that want more history about the Indian subcontinent instead of "split off India" this actualy help to make clear that there are something more than India there, a Mughal (I prefer Gurkani) civ can be featured as a "Pakistani" civ so the muslim+persianate+turkish foreign legacy in the region is portrayed beyond the contemporary modern India limitations.

 

[Bonyduck Campersang]

I think cutting off the Mughals to portray them as a 'Pakistani' civ would be much much more contentious and controversial than portraying them as part of the two countries' common heritage (and Bangladesh's too, to some extent, although Mughal rule of the region was more autonomous)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I think cutting off the Mughals to portray them as a 'Pakistani' civ would be much much more contentious and controversial than portraying them as part of the two countries' common heritage (and Bangladesh's too, to some extent, although Mughal rule of the region was more autonomous)

I took that comment to mean they can be portrayed in the game as more than just having cities and unique relegated to only the Mughal presence in India, which I agree.

 

[Bonyduck Campersang]

I took that comment to mean they can be portrayed in the game as more than just having cities and unique relegated to only the Mughal presence in India, which I agree.

I don't understand?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I don't understand?

That the Mughals had presence in not just the borders of modern-day India.

 

[Krajzen]

By the way, reddit has been doing daily voting thread where the most upvoted leader gets "chosen" for civ7, I thought you may be interested in the results so far

https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/1dre31c/lets_choose_the_leaders_for_civilization_vii

I am positively surprised by this list given my cynical attitude towards reddit, especially its tryumph over Gandhi meme. Though personally I'd switch JFK for Eisenhower, Ashoka for Lakshmibai and especially Agamemnon for any actually historical guy lol (Themistocles!) Also there is no way we'd get only one woman amidst all those civs.

 

[GeneralZift]

By the way, reddit has been doing daily voting thread where the most upvoted leader gets "chosen" for civ7, I thought you may be interested in the results so far

https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/1dre31c/lets_choose_the_leaders_for_civilization_vii

I am positively surprised by this list given my cynical attitude towards reddit, especially its tryumph over Gandhi meme. Though personally I'd switch JFK for Eisenhower, Ashoka for Lakshmibai and especially Agamemnon for any actually historical guy lol (Themistocles!) Also there is no way we'd get only one woman amidst all those civs.

Yes you can tell Reddit did it because most choices are male leaders and new leaders at that too.

 

[Patine]

I wouldn't have Babur as a Mughal leader: for him India was only a launching pad to recapture his Central Asian possessions

This sounds like a similar arguement to not make Richard I the English leader.

 

[moondog385]

By the way, reddit has been doing daily voting thread where the most upvoted leader gets "chosen" for civ7, I thought you may be interested in the results so far

https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/1dre31c/lets_choose_the_leaders_for_civilization_vii

I am positively surprised by this list given my cynical attitude towards reddit, especially its tryumph over Gandhi meme. Though personally I'd switch JFK for Eisenhower, Ashoka for Lakshmibai and especially Agamemnon for any actually historical guy lol (Themistocles!) Also there is no way we'd get only one woman amidst all those civs.

Scipio Africanus is a strange choice for Rome imo. I think it’s best to always go for an Empire leader, as that’s the period most associate with Rome.

And I’ve never got the hype around JFK as far as having him as a leader. Seems a case of wanting an iconic face for America rather than choosing someone based on accomplishments.

 

[pokiehl]

And I’ve never got the hype around JFK as far as having him as a leader. Seems a case of wanting an iconic face for America rather than choosing someone based on accomplishments.

I’m not endorsing the Reddit list or advocating for JFK in civ, but JFK has plenty of accomplishments and has been ranked in the top 10 by nonpartisan presidential historian polls/rankings for literally decades now.

 

[Patine]

I’m not endorsing the Reddit list or advocating for JFK in civ, but JFK has plenty of accomplishments and has been ranked in the top 10 by nonpartisan presidential historian polls/rankings for literally decades now.

Someone who was willing to gamble global destruction over a tropical island is not remotely high in my books. In fact, I'm pretty sure he was the only U.S. President after WW2 to even directly make a nuclear threat, and not just obliquely say, "the option's not ruled off the table."

 

[Kayak06460]

Why can’t we make up our own civilization and leader! You can upload an image of your leader (myself!). You can then choose two unique units from those in the game as well as a cultural/scientific/military or philosophical trait and one unique building from those available.

 

[pokiehl]

Why can’t we make up our own civilization and leader! You can upload an image of your leader (myself!). You can then choose two unique units from those in the game as well as a cultural/scientific/military or philosophical trait and one unique building from those available.

You can! It's called modding

 

[moondog385]

I’m not endorsing the Reddit list or advocating for JFK in civ, but JFK has plenty of accomplishments and has been ranked in the top 10 by nonpartisan presidential historian polls/rankings for literally decades now.

Those lists also have Reagan very high up, in the top 10 as well, I think. I greatly respect historians but I think they’re trying their best not to offend anyone with these lists at times. That’s all I’ll say about American politics lol.

 

[cain3456]

Bohemia. -- Jan Zizka

 

[Patine]

Bohemia. -- Jan Zizka

I would have Hus, the more well-known and comprehensive leader, but combine elements of Zizka, like the war wagons, as a UU, in.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Scipio Africanus is a strange choice for Rome imo. I think it’s best to always go for an Empire leader, as that’s the period most associate with Rome.

Wonder if most of them see "African" in his name and think that's cool and unique. We just got away in Civ 6 from "Carthage is the enemy of Rome" civ, so I'd rather not go back to make "Rome is the enemy of Carthage" civ.

And I’ve never got the hype around JFK as far as having him as a leader. Seems a case of wanting an iconic face for America rather than choosing someone based on accomplishments.

Probably most want a late game science victory-oriented America, is my guess. Though to be fair, it was during Eisenhower that NASA was created. Combine that with the interstate highway and I think he makes a more compelling late game choice as leader.

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

And I’ve never got the hype around JFK as far as having him as a leader. Seems a case of wanting an iconic face for America rather than choosing someone based on accomplishments.

I think a lot of it comes from his contributions to the Space Race and how that would tie in to a Science Victory in-game.

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

Though to be fair, it was during Eisenhower that NASA was created. Combine that with the interstate highway and I think he makes a more compelling late game choice as leader.

I would love a Jefferson for territorial expansion and exploration and/or Eisenhower for connecting cities and late-game development. If we had both, they’d be a great pair gameplay wise.