Community Deity Game #1 - Persia
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Carazycool
Warlord
question about "keep 10 immortals alive." does that mean that you can't upgrade them?
Arent nukes and planes ranged too?
Pretty sure cover doesn't work against planes, so the game doesn't consider them ranged.
consentient
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Nice win! Congratulations for being the first CDG entrant! Glad to see someone getting us started
Sadly, I mean base score. You were SO close!
I like the way it looks. I don't think it's a major problem.
Yes.
Yes, and then you can check in your log at the end.
Yes, I mean 'build'. If you are gifted it, you can use it. Or ignore the achievement altogether, as I personally decided to do. But my definition of ranged units includes:-
Archers, Chariot Archers, Composite Bowman, Crossbows, Gatlings, Machine Guns, Bazookas
'Siege' units are allowed.
About achievement D is it ok to get an archer from ruin then upgrade it ? Or ok to buy range unit ? (buying and building is not technically the same thing !)
Ruin/CS gift = OK. Buying is not.
No, you can. Men wearing skirts in the 19th century would be too much to inflict even on your worst enemy. (j/k)
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I'VE UPDATE THE OP TO CLARIFY THE ACHIEVEMENTS
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
If it's all the same with all of you, I'll wait some more before cranking up the spreadsheet, I have worked out a general concept and now it's on to finer bits
As for my game, finished a 3 city NC on turn 78, it's shaping up nicely for a vicious sweep of Persian T-34s
Btw I stole a total of 4 workers, not too bad
As for my game, finished a 3 city NC on turn 78, it's shaping up nicely for a vicious sweep of Persian T-34s
Btw I stole a total of 4 workers, not too bad
Fun map, fun game. Thanks consentient!
Early scouting got me 4/5 ruins and 5x 30 gold CS gifts. No scarchers, and the CS have only been donating spearmen
but my conscience is clear at least on that count.
DOW'd the far north AI to steal a settler. I tried working on nearest AI city with Immortals but got nowhere, so peaced-out pretty quickly and got a DOF a couple turns later.
DOW'd the crazy one who was apparently scouting my land with workers. That went terribly and I had to resign after losing a city. My Immortal “spam” was facing longswords and knights and I could not compete.
So I reloaded to reconsider that idea, and hard built workers. Made a DOW on a soft target to try and get some XP when 1st GA came online. Was okay, but again not getting anywhere near taking cities.
It has been interesting delaying Civil Service for as long a possible. Immortal count turn before CS: 15. Turn after: 13.
Really, I don't think I will be taking cities until after rifling. That could be okay.
Yes, it looks good, but it works poorly. It is not a major problem, but I think it is needless problem. There are other attractive ways to frame text that don't interfere with the REPLY button.
Oh! Is that something available outside the game? Or something that can be extracted from a save file? Where do I learn more?
Early scouting got me 4/5 ruins and 5x 30 gold CS gifts. No scarchers, and the CS have only been donating spearmen
but my conscience is clear at least on that count.DOW'd the far north AI to steal a settler. I tried working on nearest AI city with Immortals but got nowhere, so peaced-out pretty quickly and got a DOF a couple turns later.
DOW'd the crazy one who was apparently scouting my land with workers. That went terribly and I had to resign after losing a city. My Immortal “spam” was facing longswords and knights and I could not compete.
So I reloaded to reconsider that idea, and hard built workers. Made a DOW on a soft target to try and get some XP when 1st GA came online. Was okay, but again not getting anywhere near taking cities.
It has been interesting delaying Civil Service for as long a possible. Immortal count turn before CS: 15. Turn after: 13.
Really, I don't think I will be taking cities until after rifling. That could be okay.
Yes, it looks good, but it works poorly. It is not a major problem, but I think it is needless problem. There are other attractive ways to frame text that don't interfere with the REPLY button.
Oh! Is that something available outside the game? Or something that can be extracted from a save file? Where do I learn more?
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
I think he refers to the log in your victory screen, where you can see graphs of every category and how the map changed (filled with cities) as time moved on, which is something I really like and always watch
GenuineRisk
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Thanks, I actually realized that base score made more sense after I posted that... I don't think I've ever had a Dom game with less than 3000 final score. Shouldn't have donated so many cities to the AI.Nice win! Congratulations for being the first CDG entrant! Glad to see someone getting us started
Sadly, I mean base score. You were SO close!
Btw, I noticed that the map was created with the NQ script -
Spoiler :
A. Keep 10 Immortals alive from the Ancient Era to the turn of victory. You can upgrade them, obviously. - 3 pts.
You specified Ancient Era; that means we'd have to produce these Immortals before entering Classical (ex. Philosophy). Did you intend this restriction?
You specified Ancient Era; that means we'd have to produce these Immortals before entering Classical (ex. Philosophy). Did you intend this restriction?
consentient
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Not at all. I meant that they become available then, so these units (even when upgraded) are 'kept alive' through the eras. You can delay Civil Service and build them whenever you like. Just remember to build them as Immortals otherwise you'll never get the 'Double Heal' perk, which is the whole point of them 
(not a specific reminder for you, but for everyone)
(not a specific reminder for you, but for everyone)
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Spoiler :
No, not a lawyer.
The current wording states the immortals need to be alive during the ancient era and on the turn of victory. My guess was that consentient actually meant:
A. Keep 10 Immortals alive to the turn of victory. You can upgrade them, obviously. - 3 pts.
If he did mean produce the immortals during the Ancient era, that would change how I play this game.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
I am absolutely loving this semantics argument, you guys make my day
I should trying indulging in that again. I gave up more than a year ago because it took so long to load. Guess I could count razed cities easy enough -- and it would be fun as they blink out!
Are Golden Ages displayed prominently enough?
Can that victory screen -- and the graphs -- be recalled from a save? Or do you suggest saving just before the VC screen pops?
FWIW, I got out of the habit of saves-just-before-victory because, with previous civs, that would clog the “high scores” screen with multiple copies of the same game. But does V even keep record of your best games? If so, how do I get to that?
It is really interesting to me how the goal for ten has so changed my game!
For example, I stole some tech with 1 turn left of research because the only other choice was like 6 turns for CS. (Bet I could have planned ahead for that one!)
The other example is Worlds Fair, where I am usually pretty competitive. Cranking on the UUs meant not having Workshops anywhere. I will be lucky to get a 2nd place...
Grendeldef
Trancerelic & coffeeholic
T233 Dom after a surprisingly fun game though much prolonged after the builder in me took power and I was building WWs & all sorts of cool stuff to prepare something what turned out to be a total overkill in the end - SBs are really not needed when the opposition has Triremes.
Also, had I realized the size of map I would've changed few things but I very much prefer this over the average size land masses.
Since I started the game without noticing the achievements I didn't pay any attention to them but introduced few optional rules for myself; no siege units or stepping into waters with any sort of units among them as I wanted to avoid the usual Arties/BS late game.
Only one thing really annoyed me in the game - WTH can't I shoot the false prophets? Dead or exiled I don't care but don't sell your crap on my door when I didn't have my dobermanns blocking the path to my backyard.
Proper write-up tomorrow - the game itself took long enough.
Also, had I realized the size of map I would've changed few things but I very much prefer this over the average size land masses.
Since I started the game without noticing the achievements I didn't pay any attention to them but introduced few optional rules for myself; no siege units or stepping into waters with any sort of units among them as I wanted to avoid the usual Arties/BS late game.
Only one thing really annoyed me in the game - WTH can't I shoot the false prophets? Dead or exiled I don't care but don't sell your crap on my door when I didn't have my dobermanns blocking the path to my backyard.
Proper write-up tomorrow - the game itself took long enough.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Nice going ! I'll have the spreadsheet prototype tomorrow hopefully, been a bit busy (as usual, sigh), and any feedback is welcome, natch
consentient
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T240 Domination - Achievements Completed: B, C, E
Damn you Grendeldef! Not only did you pip me by a few turns but you freely admitted to dawdling whereas I was pushing all-out for as fast a finish as possible!
[I'd challenge Grendeldef to a drinking contest as a rematch, but I've drunk with too many Finns to make that mistake again. Maybe, like Death in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, I should just accept I am beaten! OK Grendel, come with me, I'll take you to meet God, Einstein and some Martians...]
Damn you Grendeldef! Not only did you pip me by a few turns but you freely admitted to dawdling whereas I was pushing all-out for as fast a finish as possible!
Spoiler :
[I'd challenge Grendeldef to a drinking contest as a rematch, but I've drunk with too many Finns to make that mistake again. Maybe, like Death in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, I should just accept I am beaten! OK Grendel, come with me, I'll take you to meet God, Einstein and some Martians...]
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Argh! My pikes are upgrading to Lancers. No idea why the mod is not working. It shows under details, and the save game file loaded. I was teaching much too slow anyway.
Grendeldef
Trancerelic & coffeeholic
Damn you Grendeldef! Not only did you pip me by a few turns but you freely admitted to dawdling whereas I was pushing all-out for as fast a finish as possible!
Sorry about that but yeah the late game was something like this: while dealing with the furthest opponent I thought that I needed planes for the
Spoiler :
Spoiler :
The reality was that Machine Guns would've been very sufficient as the last opponent's Army was largely a Navy hence the logistics, range & double cover MGs tore a 100 def city apart in 2 or 3 turns without taking much of any dmg themselves.
The 2nd to last opponent I could've taken down just with highly promoted infantry which were one-shotting everything that came by for a violent hug.
By a huge margin, the civ furthest away was the hardest to deal with as his UU is deadly and I slightly miss-timed the war so those were present though not by usual numbers.
In the end I had 4 GSs left, all 3rd tier Order policies free to take, beakers overflow enough to get me to SBs in 3 turns without bulbing and an Army too large to bother to move around.
BUT I thoroughly enjoyed the space & slightly slower pace in general even though the game wasn't that hard after getting few workers in the late 20s/early 30s. Not that that makes a game necessarily a hard one but my mind is set in a way that workerless empire on T20 is a failure.
Yeah, don't challenge peeps in their national sport without preparing to lose but in my current state of training I fear there would still be a contest - I'm a pathetic amateur in these days but few decades back... damn the getting old business hampers everything.
For the mods part I can say that everything worked flawlessly and on hindsight of the achievements
A) 2 or 3 short though I had exceptionally large number of melee units in the end
B) few short which is a surprise - usually I start enough bonfires to meet any criteria
C) easily met; one from Liberty, one natural pre-WF boosted with a GA and one perpetual after WF
D) not a chance as I built archers before noticing these
E) not a clue, yet - I need to check this. Scores were the thing in Civ 2 but obsolete in Civ 5 from my perspective
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E) 7658 points so this one is covered
