"Conspiracy Theories" that you believe in!
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The Great Sugar Conspiracy
Somehow - don't ask me how, but somehow - the information in Pure, White and Deadly (1972) got buried by the sugar industry under anti-fat propaganda, so that the manufacturers promoting low fat diets took most of the fat out of processed foods. This took most of the flavour out of the foods which they replaced with sugar.
And so forth and blah. Oh, and Richard Nixon.
The fat's going down the sugar's going up and we're all getting sicker and sicker.
Somehow - don't ask me how, but somehow - the information in Pure, White and Deadly (1972) got buried by the sugar industry under anti-fat propaganda, so that the manufacturers promoting low fat diets took most of the fat out of processed foods. This took most of the flavour out of the foods which they replaced with sugar.
And so forth and blah. Oh, and Richard Nixon.
The fat's going down the sugar's going up and we're all getting sicker and sicker.
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It is if you think that it can and will apply generally. To one's own country too, not just in some "bad" third-world places. Meaning that those who "serve" in the military and intelligence can never be trusted to act "for the country" instead of for themselves and should never be allowed the ability to set public policy. Easier said than done...
Well if folks are tired of sugar there's always cocaine...
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Totally believe it. I read a clickbait article the other day about the diets of the oldest people. A lot of them ate eggs, bacon, buttered toast, etc nearly every day. Kind of reminds me of how coconut oil was bad for you and now its not.
On the same note, the FDA labeled sassafras a carcinogen so it couldn't be used for root beer. You'd have to drink something like ten gallons a day for an entire year to hit dangerous levels of safrole. Supposedly the Pepsi and Coca-Cola lobbies got sassafras banned because they saw root beer companies as competition. It makes sense since safrole is present in a few other spices like nutmeg, black pepper, cinnamon and basil.
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So you're saying Trump wrote Shakespeare?
I wouldn't call that a conspiracy theory but just the raw truth.
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That would take a lot of tin foil.
As a simple conspiracy addon: when the sweetening properties of the harmless vegetable Stevia became more widely known, the sugar industry pushed every lobby button they had to defend their markets. http://owndoc.com/stevia/stevia-still-banned-the-stevia-fda-conspiracy/
The book is from 1972. In the 50ies and 60ies books of Adelle Davis became popular on Food and health covering many aspects. In 1970 Linus Pauling (twofold Nobel Prize winner) wrote "Vitamin C and the common cold".
I started studying chemistry in 1974, specialising in biochemistry. Some of these books I bought, some I borrowed.
The general assumption of all these books was that the change to mass agricultural production and mass processing of the ingedients served the industry much more than our health, and that many illnesses could be traced back to our nutrition that had deviated far from our original food on which our human evolution had optimised our metabolism.
Current DNA mutation research shows nicely that in the past 20,000 years many of our DNA mutations had to do with adapting our metabolism to the change of food like better abilities to handle starch rich food, milk lactose, teeth decay protective saliva, etc, etc.
On a timescale longer back in time: We have currently roughly 5% Neanderthaler DNA and the mainstream hypothesis, as a partial explanation, is that when we migrated to inland Europe and Asia, we were confronted with new lightly toxic bioflavonoids etc in vegetables there and the fastest way to handle that was not changing slowly by evolutionary adapting our own DNA, because some interbreeding with Neanderthalers that had already those protecting genes was quicker.
Assuming that evolutionary development is more or less stagnated nowadays on nutritional metabolic pathways, we are where we are: a non-optimal health mismatch between easy available food and our genes.
Back to Pure, White and Deadly and all those other books: they were all run over except Linus Pauling!
PWD by the power of the food industry, Adelle Davis by the Science community because she made too many mistakes (although her general message is now mainstream in Science), Linus Pauling original insights simply became outdated by the fast developing biochemistry. No wonder because the DNA model was only discovered in 1953. There is however the Linus Pauling Institute with a wealth of reliable nutrition/health knowledge as a strong "beacon of hope" under siege of the food and pharma industry. http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C
From the conspiracy point of view to consider: whereas the white sugar is mainly defended by the food and beverages industry, everything to do with health from vitamins, minerals, antioxydants, etc, etc is under attack of the powerful pharma industry as well. Medicins make much more money than lowcost to produce micronutrients. The beverage industry is losing ground (attacked by the WHO) and retreats slowly.
Personally I think the individual that does not want to spend almost a study on it, has no chance to do the right thing in an easy social acceptable way (buying food in retail) against these powerful forces.
If politicians were the first to invent fake news, the pharma/nutrition industry, the (electronic) tabloids, as well as all kind of food faddist with good intentions have greatly boosted the development of badly checked news or fake news.
To consider also:
Our metabolism is extremely complex. Science is charting that.
The METLIN database collecting all metabolites. Counter well over 900,000. https://metlin.scripps.edu/landing_page.php?pgcontent=mainPage
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I'm not sure I agree.
1. Don't consume drinks in cans. (Preferably drink just water, and milk at a push.)
2. Don't consume fruit juice.
3. Don't eat any processed foods, as far as possible.
4. Read all the labels of all the food you eat.
Those four things won't completely protect you, of course. But they will help.
I thought it was just some swamp gas...
As a first line of defence, I do that
When in company or I just feel like it, I am happy to break the rules.
Usual at home my breakfast is a bowl of in milk cooked oat porridge with a soft boiled egg.
Oat is a real treat for your intestines, has some special fibers. Keeping your intestinal bacteria happy is really important.
I hardly eat processed food. Almost always traditional European kitchen meals with much of cooked/stewed vegetables, tubers, onions, garlick and every other day moderate meat or fish.
My typical third meal of the day is something green and bread with some salt, pepper and ample olive oil to soak it. At least twice a week some fat fish (Sardine, Salmon) for the omega-3.
And still that does not bring me the amount of micro nutrients, the distribution of amino acids, etc, what I would need for optimal health.....
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breakfast for me is oats, popped rice, popped amaranth, popped spelt, chia pudding, cornflakes (unsweetened), coarsely ground flaxseed, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, occasional poppy seeds, some fresh in-season berries and a mix of yoghurt and milk. bowl of ceremonial grade matcha, regular green tea or oolong.
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I really should post more often in the cooking thread, I always lurk it but never contribute. Routinely spend two to three hours every day in the kitchen, often spend 6+ hours cooking a single dish like ragout bolognese (I make the noodles myself), some ridiculous broth for pho or ramen, baking bread, fermenting things, preserving things, making my own condiments and so forth. Cooking is lyfe :~)
Disagree heavily with 2) Yes, fruit juice is essentially sugar + vitamin water with all the good fibers removed, it has almost similiar calories compared to soft drinks and doesn't fill you, but it really depends heavily on what you're drinking. Unsweetened cranberry juice has little calories. Same goes for elderflower, tomato, rhubarb, blackcurrant.. Just because most people don't drink these doesn't mean fruit juice in general isn't healthy.
Also you could just press your own juice and keep as many fibrous parts as you want. So really only the discounter-quality "Can't believe it's not juice"-Juice is bad for you.
get on my müsly level, everyone~
I really should post more often in the cooking thread, I always lurk it but never contribute. Routinely spend two to three hours every day in the kitchen, often spend 6+ hours cooking a single dish like ragout bolognese (I make the noodles myself), some ridiculous broth for pho or ramen, baking bread, fermenting things, preserving things, making my own condiments and so forth. Cooking is lyfe :~)
Disagree heavily with 2) Yes, fruit juice is essentially sugar + vitamin water with all the good fibers removed, it has almost similiar calories compared to soft drinks and doesn't fill you, but it really depends heavily on what you're drinking. Unsweetened cranberry juice has little calories. Same goes for elderflower, tomato, rhubarb, blackcurrant.. Just because most people don't drink these doesn't mean fruit juice in general isn't healthy.
Also you could just press your own juice and keep as many fibrous parts as you want. So really only the discounter-quality "Can't believe it's not juice"-Juice is bad for you.
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*runs a "BS" flag up a pole*
If you mean the highly-sugared crap that pretends to be fruit juice... agreed.
But if you mean the unsweetened (or reasonably unsweetened) stuff... nope.
I had to give up oranges/orange juice, lemonade, grapefruit/grapefruit juice, and limes/lime juice a long time ago.
Thank goodness for cranberries and cranberry juice. This is one reason why I don't eat out that much anymore - hardly any restaurants serve cranberry juice.
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Yeah. I mean yes, I used to think that about unsweetened fruit juice too. I thought why are they taxing me at 20% on this stuff? It's just plain food.
But it isn't. Fruit juice is plain full of fructose which isn't bad for you if you eat it in fruit, since you'll get a lot of pulp with it. And you'll likely not consume a great deal of it. Just try eating three oranges on the trot, for instance. But you can glug down a very great deal of orange juice.
Oh, OK you don't drink orange juice. But cranberry juice has very similar levels of fructose.
And of the two, sucrose and fructose, fructose is very much worse when it comes to your metabolism and increasing body fat. Sucrose is bad, fructose is like twice as bad.
Or so they tell me.
But it isn't. Fruit juice is plain full of fructose which isn't bad for you if you eat it in fruit, since you'll get a lot of pulp with it. And you'll likely not consume a great deal of it. Just try eating three oranges on the trot, for instance. But you can glug down a very great deal of orange juice.
Oh, OK you don't drink orange juice. But cranberry juice has very similar levels of fructose.
And of the two, sucrose and fructose, fructose is very much worse when it comes to your metabolism and increasing body fat. Sucrose is bad, fructose is like twice as bad.
Or so they tell me.
I don't consume oranges or orange juice because I can't. I'd be in a hell of a lot of pain if I were dumb enough to do that. This is part of why Christmas drives me nuts. Oranges are a huge part of Christmas in this part of the world - people buy them by the case, and they're given out as treats or hostess gifts. A couple of years ago my across-the-hall neighbor baked up Christmas baskets for everyone in our wing of the apartment building, and while I really enjoyed some of the baked goods, I couldn't eat the oranges she included with them.
I can eat cranberries, blueberries, saskatoons, cherries, plums, grapes, peaches, and pears with no problems. Strawberries are hard to find that are just right - generally they're either too sweet or too sour. I love tomatoes, but have to really be careful not to have too much at a time, and keep the soda crackers handy.
I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this - the basic fruits that most people can eat are more or less poison for me. I can tolerate very small amounts of lemon, but can't tolerate any amount of grapefruit at all, not even synthetic (my dad and I tried this out when he used to get case lots of grapefruit-flavored pop; I couldn't even tolerate a small teaspoon of it).
I'm also careful of apples, but for a different reason - they tend to bring on headaches.
And yes, I've got medication for this condition - and especially make sure to take it when I have a craving for a spinach/tomato/meatball pizza - but I'm not going to take the whole menu of stupid chances.
It is not so straight forward. Diet doesn't work alone; genetics play a part as does lifestyle. I am one of those who has been eating eggs, butter, bacon etc all of my life, but in moderation. I don't eat much beef though and rarely drink soda. My arteries are clean and I don't have any food related health issues. My wife ate similarly until her cholesterol spiked a decade or so ago. She went meatless and took up regular exercise. Her levels dropped to really really good levels. I think that gut bacteria is really important and many problems are brought about by a bad mix there. Too many antibiotics, appendix removals, etc.
Who knew nutrition would be so complicated?
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