Culturally We May Have a Problem.

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Just returning from seeing the Risevof Skywalker.

Makes me want to drink.ive got some blood in my alcohol stream.

We have a very simple system here in NZ.

Birthday. Drink.
Christmas. Drink
Crappy Star Wars movie. Drink.
Watching rugby drink.
Wife leaves you for another women. Drink
Election night drink.
Political party wins election drink.
Political party loses election. Drink.
Posting on CFC. Drink
Etc

High culture is drinking a $12 bottle of wine instead if $8.

Not sure what supermarkets look like in a lot of countries but here's our wine section.

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Several shelves of it over several aisles. It won't even fit on the camera.

Beer
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And this is a small supermarket in a city of 120k.

Pallet of Corona's plus several craft beers. It's just to the left of the above photo.

Anyway what's it like in your countries at the supermarket?
 
They're like that here. I think the average grocery store will have less liquor than that, however. We also have liquor stores where all they sell is alcohol. Some states even have drive throughs...
 
They're like that here. I think the average grocery store will have less liquor than that, however. We also have liquor stores where all they sell is alcohol. Some states even have drive throughs...

We call it bottle stores here. They sell spirits.
 
It does look a bit large.

It's wine country here, and in southwestern Europe generally. About 70% of the alcoholic drinks of the space are different wines. Most of the rest beers.
 
It looks like an unusual amount for a grocery store in the US. But some chains are like that. For example, Wegmans (which is a kickass chain in the mid-Atlantic for USians who haven't heard of them).
 
Ontario only started allowing wine and beer sales in supermarkets within the last few years. Most grocery stores still don't have an alcohol section. The ones that do are like half an isle and stock a fraction of the wine and beer that the government alcohol stores (also still only place to buy spirits) do, and beer isn't package in bulk.

But even with all those limitations,

Humans do like to drink, often to excess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption_per_capita

Oz is #19
NZ #31
US #48

at #40 we're still beating the US!
 
They're like that here. I think the average grocery store will have less liquor than that, however. We also have liquor stores where all they sell is alcohol. Some states even have drive throughs...

Ohio has drive through liquor stores. I almost bought one that came up for sale a few years ago when I was looking at using my VA small business loan. I decided not to though as I would rather use that to get my own security firm started or possibly open a gun shop. Mostly leaning towards the former though as I've heard gun shops operate at a razor-thin profit margin and can face a lot of legal issues.
 
Ontario only started allowing wine and beer sales in supermarkets within the last few years. Most grocery stores still don't have an alcohol section. The ones that do are like half an isle and stock a fraction of the wine and beer that the government alcohol stores (also still only place to buy spirits) do, and beer isn't package in bulk.

But even with all those limitations,



at #40 we're still beating the US!

I suspect the US figure is entirely down to abstaining Christian sects rather than different behavior by the average individual drinker.
 
We call it bottle stores here. They sell spirits.

Our grocery stores don't have that much of a wine selection generally, but they also sell spirits. As do drug stores. If I go out of the neighborhood onto the main street I can turn right or left and arrive at a main intersection, with those intersections being one mile apart. If I go right the four corners of the intersection will offer two supermarkets, two drug stores, and a liquor store. If I go left the four corners of the intersection will offer two supermarkets, a drug store, and two gas station minimarts (which sell only beer)...plus a bar.
 
good selection for a supermarket, we're a 3/2 state (lower alcohol content) so generally the real stuff is sold in stores devoted to booze.

Does NZ make any beer? Whats yer best stuff?
 
good selection for a supermarket, we're a 3/2 state (lower alcohol content) so generally the real stuff is sold in stores devoted to booze.

Does NZ make any beer? Whats yer best stuff?

NZ makes a lot of beer.

Best stuff is the various craft beers.

This is probably the best except for certain craft beers. It was a craft beer but got bought out but still tastes good.

https://emersons.co.nz/

Restaurant/brewery that's also local.

I have their cloudy IPA to try for Xmas breakfast. Their entire range is decent. Anything better is an expensive craft beer this is around $12 6 pUSD pack.

I've had better beers on tap but idk where to buy them and they're $8-9 USD a pint, $21 a jug.
 
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Like Inno said, in southern euro countries you will see a lot of wines too, cause they are locally produced.
I don't drink alcohol anyway, so don't pay attention.
 
Ohio has drive through liquor stores. I almost bought one that came up for sale a few years ago when I was looking at using my VA small business loan. I decided not to though as I would rather use that to get my own security firm started or possibly open a gun shop. Mostly leaning towards the former though as I've heard gun shops operate at a razor-thin profit margin and can face a lot of legal issues.
The other problem you will have with a gun store is the huge loan you will likely have to take on to put together a basic stock of goods to sell.

Can you legally monetize the gun range you put in the basement? That would be an easier backdoor into that market. Start by pimping out the gun range and then making a few sales on the side and then growing the sales side of the business organically. Ammo sales in the range would be easy and natural and the margins on that can finance gun purchases to boost your stock of goods. Customers buying ammo to shoot on the range would expect to pay a premium for the on-the-spot convenience.
 
Our super markets aren't allowed to sell anything stronger than 4.5%, and not after 20:00. The only place you can buy stronger alcohol is a national state run retail chain with limited business hours. Alcohol is taxed pretty heavily here.

Overall alcohol consumption is trending downwards, specially amongst the young. This suggests that regulatory measures can help limit alcohol use.

But yeah, people will use their drug(s) of choice. Me included.
 
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Can you legally monetize the gun range you put in the basement?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Maybe, but after jumping through a lot of legal hoops and probably having my homeowner's insurance either go way up or cancelled altogether for being too much of a risk.

I'd much rather just keep guns as a personal hobby, rather than turn them into how I make my living.
 
It does look a bit large.

It's wine country here, and in southwestern Europe generally. About 70% of the alcoholic drinks of the space are different wines. Most of the rest beers.
The difference goes beyond that. In southern Europe drinking is (usually) about having a good time, about being social. In the UK, and perhaps in some other places (I'm thinking the likes of Russia and Ukraine, though I don't know them very well) it's primarily about getting shitfaced.

Don't get me wrong, getting very drunk every once in a while is fun and good for the soul. But I never got the appeal of constantly getting shitfaced for the sake of getting shitfaced like the britishers do.
 
Yes, it feels weird (to say the least) when one observes the behavior of young english tourists around here. As if they are drinking to forget something.
 
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