Current (SVN) development discussion thread

[civ_king]

Well, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he said pink is okay for China because he's used to it from Civ4 vanilla, and then tried to rationalize it.

Personally, I pay more attention to choosing the "right" color for every civ than what would be entirely justified, because I think it's part of the right feeling. Khmer and Mughals should be some shade of green in my opinion (for whatever subjective reason), and Holy Rome and Spain should be some sort of yellow. Poland is associated with red, but with two dark red civs nearby (Russia and Italy), and red England isn't that far off either. So the only shade of red that doesn't verge towards pink would've been a faint red similar to Korea's, and I don't think that would've looked more fitting for Poland.

So I chose the current color. It's called amaranth in the game files by the way. So it is not pink. And similar shades of colors are often used for Poland/Lithuania. Paradox games have been mentioned already.

I don't really care which cliches are associated with colors. I mean, we're all playing a game full of a rainbow of colors, so we're gay anyway

For the Vikings, I don't have any strong color association with them. I didn't have one for the Tamils either, but I knew they couldn't use shades of purple to get more contrast with India. The Vikings originally had light purple in BtS so I thought it wouldn't hurt to switch them around. It's not that noticeable next to the other European colors in my opinion anyway.

So you see, I did put some thought into the civ colors. Actually whenever I consider to add a new civ, I have to think for a long time how to give them a suitable color that isn't used by someone else already.

For that post, I love you man.

 

[BenZL43]

Been wondering since my early days joining CFC. Is all member 100% male? Or there's female member too? hahaha

 

[Hippo8085]

Doesn't matter. I try to remember that everybody is something I am not supposed to discriminate against.

 

[Bair_the_Normal]

*Sigh*
I come back to DoC to see this? This honestly wasn't the right place for this discussion. Anyways, to rerail (is that a word?) this topic, for Tibet I suggest the old Viking color, and for the Moors I suggest a sand-ish light brown color. I was going to point out the lack of "Kition", but that was already pointed out. However, one final pet peeve for me. Can you possibly lower China's likelihood for settling southwards. Their southern cities severely nerf the Khmer, as good old Sury can't settle Hanoi, which is my favorite site apart from Phnom Penh. (At least it used to be.)

 

[Solzhenitsyn]

*Sigh*
I come back to DoC to see this? This honestly wasn't the right place for this discussion. Anyways, to rerail (is that a word?) this topic, for Tibet I suggest the old Viking color, and for the Moors I suggest a sand-ish light brown color. I was going to point out the lack of "Kition", but that was already pointed out. However, one final pet peeve for me. Can you possibly lower China's likelihood for settling southwards. Their southern cities severely nerf the Khmer, as good old Sury can't settle Hanoi, which is my favorite site apart from Phnom Penh. (At least it used to be.)

Yeah, I like the Moors idea. I think Columbia should be a dark brown, coffee color. As for Tibet, I don't think of them as a light blue. I think more of a combination between India and China would be better.

 

[Hippo8085]

Tibet is maroon.

 

[Solzhenitsyn]

Tibet is maroon.

That's a pretty smart idea. You get the Buddhist monk colors from China and Tibet being next to eachother.

 

[Leoreth]

*Sigh*
I come back to DoC to see this? This honestly wasn't the right place for this discussion. Anyways, to rerail (is that a word?) this topic, for Tibet I suggest the old Viking color, and for the Moors I suggest a sand-ish light brown color. I was going to point out the lack of "Kition", but that was already pointed out. However, one final pet peeve for me. Can you possibly lower China's likelihood for settling southwards. Their southern cities severely nerf the Khmer, as good old Sury can't settle Hanoi, which is my favorite site apart from Phnom Penh. (At least it used to be.)

I've made a general change to the settler map that will hopefully prevent China from making Hanoi impossible recently, it'll come with the next commit.

The Moors use light brown (Native American color in BtS) with dark yellow as secondary color, by the way.

 

[Civciv5]

The Moors use light brown (Native American color in BtS) with dark yellow as secondary color, by the way.

Since when are the Moors in?
What do they represent?
Morocco and Cordoba?

 

[BenZL43]

It is under development. Not yet in.

Moors, Andalus, Morocco, Almohads, Almoravids, Berber, etc

 

[DC123456789]

Why does Holy Rome flip most of Denmark?

 

[Leoreth]

Do they flip Kopenhagen? If so, that's not intended.

Moors are almost finished, they will soon be committed. I'm mainly adjusting Spain now so they make sense with the Moors in Andalusia. I use Moors as a general term for Andalusian and Maghrebi Arabs as well as Berbers. So they represent the Caliphate of Cordoba and later the Almoravids and Almohads.

 

[Solzhenitsyn]

Do they flip Kopenhagen? If so, that's not intended.

Moors are almost finished, they will soon be committed. I'm mainly adjusting Spain now so they make sense with the Moors in Andalusia. I use Moors as a general term for Andalusian and Maghrebi Arabs as well as Berbers. So they represent the Caliphate of Cordoba and later the Almoravids and Almohads.

Perfect! It'll also make colonial times more accurate, with Franch and Spain probably fighting over being the Moors' master.

How will their production and food be though? North Africa tends to be a crappy place (besides Egypt, Cyrene, and Tunis). Perhaps make their UB a Taifa? (Their system of emirates) that gives those a bonus?

Also make sure that they make La Mezquita, and try to conquer Rome.

 

[Caesar Augustus]

Morocco's terrain deserves a buff anyway. I'm not saying Casablanca should be the next Constantinople, but it's kind of pitiful in its current form. I'm thinking replace a mountain with a hill, add a few more plains, maybe an oasis, perhaps even a seafood resource.

 

[Hippo8085]

UB is a Noria, which is an aqueduct that gives +1 and +2.

 

[Solzhenitsyn]

Morocco's terrain deserves a buff anyway. I'm not saying Casablanca should be the next Constantinople, but it's kind of pitiful in its current form. I'm thinking replace a mountain with a hill, add a few more plains, maybe an oasis, perhaps even a seafood resource.

That's a good idea. Even with the UB that makes it habitable, other players need to want it too. Anyways, what if the Moors settle elsewhere? They'll have a ton of food and production.

 

[Bair_the_Normal]

Holy Rome does indeed flip Copenhagen. And as for my reasoning for Tibet's colors, I guess it comes back to old stories I was told about Tibet's, I dunno, mysticism I guess? The airiness and lightness of a nation up high is what they represent to me. And where will the Moors spawn?

~Bair

 

[Caesar Augustus]

That's a good idea. Even with the UB that makes it habitable, other players need to want it too. Anyways, what if the Moors settle elsewhere? They'll have a ton of food and production.

That's a really good point. Lisbon or Rome under Moorish control could be just sick.

 

[NerfCothons]

Morocco's terrain deserves a buff anyway. I'm not saying Casablanca should be the next Constantinople, but it's kind of pitiful in its current form. I'm thinking replace a mountain with a hill, add a few more plains, maybe an oasis, perhaps even a seafood resource.

I was just in Morocco, I'd be happy to post some pictures of "desert tiles" to support this.

 

[DC123456789]

Do they flip Kopenhagen? If so, that's not intended.

Holy Rome does indeed flip Copenhagen. And as for my reasoning for Tibet's colors, I guess it comes back to old stories I was told about Tibet's, I dunno, mysticism I guess? The airiness and lightness of a nation up high is what they represent to me. And where will the Moors spawn?

~Bair

Yep. That's the only reason I posted it, anyway.