CVH- Comeback of the Century (Axis of Evil)

conquer_dude- If we did take Mao out this early, it would be easier to win. But what's the fun? I'd rather take out Mao later w/ panzers. Razing a city or two will not slow them down signifigantly, and we can still outeconomize them because we're the awesome humans vs. dumb ai.

the chinese and american expansion is not explosive, and like I said before, razing a city or two will have little impact.
 
I just checked and we're playing at Monarch. :lol: So we have the luxury to really stretch out here and build some nice infrastructure. I was in the Demigod from of mind where you really have to start trimming the AI back early if at all possible. I'd still advocate sacking Nanking just to put Mao in his place, but we can afford to let the AI get a little cocky, just to make the end more fun. I believe that this is where Own is coming from, and it's starting to sound pretty cool.
 
Pre-turn- Switch Hamburg to Temple, want to grab BG’s with cultural expansion, same with Frankfurt in grabbing fishies and ponies. Liepzig and Berlin to worker.

2. Berlin worker > temple

3. Leipzig worker > worker Konigsburg worker > worker

5. Get philosophy, get rep free! Hold revolution, only one turn. Next lit. Meet England. Trade Math for Myst and 23 gold. America seems to be taking over china. Ooh, a runaway :).

6. Republic established. Must lower science considerably. And raise lux. So far it’s not so good, but it’ll be better.

8. Disband a couple reg warriors, as MP is no long useful.

Post turn- Building temples as there's no other infrastructure to build, though it does bother me. I waited to disband some archers just incase we ever wanted to archer rush them late (I wouldn't do it, but I was just being safe).
 

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Oooh, so America would like to be a big bad superpower someday, eh? We shall see, Abe. We shall see.

The early switch to Republic will look like a mistake for a while, I suspect, but will pay off in the long run. If we keep meeting civs we should be set up to be trade masters for a long time. And if Abe kills Mao, then perhaps the secrets of our war crimes will be buried with him. :evil:

Good set, Own!
 
Yeah, we should keep Frankfurt with temple because it is due in ten turns. That would just be one more turnset for someone.

I really wish we could crush Mao though, but it looks like Abe is getting too strong. IMO I want Mao to survive wars against Abe because we and Mao are stopping Abe from getting any further, right?
 
What about Glib? We need that. ONce we get literature are we going to instantly set Berlin as that?
 
conquer_dude said:
What about Glib? We need that. ONce we get literature are we going to instantly set Berlin as that?

Personally, i think it would be better if we built a library in Berlin before we built TGL, because the library is cheap and will give a boost right now. And TGL goes obsolete fairly quickly.
 
azzaman333 said:
Personally, i think it would be better if we built a library in Berlin before we built TGL, because the library is cheap and will give a boost right now. And TGL goes obsolete fairly quickly.
Even though it does go obsolete it will make it get obsolete faster if we have it. :D

That is true, thoguh. :lol:
 
Attack Abe so he stays like Mao, small and weak.:devil:

Nice job,Own.:thumbsup: I had a question, do you mean by "America is taking over China", as in they are in war, or Abe is just settling the land south of China?:cool:
 
I think he means Abe is settling, but hey, I do see war as a possibility here. :)
 
I don't think we need the Great Library. Even with only 5 cities, we can outresearch the AI on monarch (for instance, literature and currency monopolies should be enough to buy the rest, or close to it). Getting our cities to size 7 will certainly help.
 
Agree that the GLib isn't going to do much for us in this game. Maybe a little, but not much. Getting 5 libraries up and running is more important. Also, I'm wondering if we might not want to make a run for the Wonders in this game. See how many we could build before we go into Take Over the World mode?

I was just looking for a roster and I see that I'm up! :crazyeye: Will play sometime today.

Ansar the King - built archers for a war that never happened :sad:
Own - one turn to Republic!
SimpleMonkey - UP!
conquer_dude - ON DECK
classical_hero - city three!
azzaman333 - burnt pizza
TimBentley - just played
CoolioVonHoolio - MIA??
 
What about pyramids? It gives growth... Growth is really what we need, with 5 cities.
 
Preflight 875BC Ah, peaceful Germany. We have many busy workers toiling away at roads and chopping trees. We are everybody's b#tch daddy as far as techs go, and everyone but us is broke. We are also the only enlightened Republic around. Mao digs us and so does Elizabeth (i.e. they're polite), but Abe is pretty cranky (annoyed). There's no micromanaging to be done, really. Some temples are due to be pop-rushed in a bit, but not yet. No, wait a minute. Doh! :cringe: We would rush temples if we were still despots. Don't have the money for it right now. Our military consists of three archers right now, so I believe that we will do our best to remain peaceful for a bit. We are actually well over our unit support limit with all the workers we have. Cities need to grow. Good thing that three out of our five cities are on rivers or lakes. Literature due in 16 with science maxed out at 30% at -3gpt, so most of these temples we're building in the next few turns are going to actually be temples, not pre-built libraries. Maybe.

Peaceful, friendly, happy Germans. *awww* :love:

Hit Enter.

IBT Iron connected! We could actually build swordsmen!

Turn 1 850BC Koenigsberg produces yet another worker, driving us further in debt, and I set it to build ... yes, another temple. It's temples for everyone, folks! Our dinkyboat sails around a little.

IBT Lincoln would like us to give him Mysticism. Yep, just hand it over. Now, normally we proud Germans would send Abe's envoy home in a thermos for suggesting such a thing. But see above for the state of our military. I hand it over. This upgrades his attitude to cautious, and ensures that his head will have a prominent place in our trophy room some day.

Turn 2 825BC Workers work. Dinkyboat sails. Berlin is about to build its temple with overrun, so I switch an unneeded citizen into a scientist. This gets us Lit in 9 turns now, so a few of these temples now will become places of learning instead.

IBT :sleep:

Turn 3 800BC :sleep:

IBT The same.

Turn 4 775BC More workers are set to mining, as we have lots of irrigation now. Micromanage a little to eliminate overruns.

IBT Ahh, incense finally connected. To Konigsberg, not the rest of the empire. Will have to address that. Oh, and now Mao would like Mysticism as well. Do we look like a punching bag to you, little man? Well, at this point, yes we do. He gets a freebie. And a spot next to Abe's in the trophy room. But I'm not giving in if Elizabeth comes looking for a handout.

Turn 5 750BC Build another dinkyboat in Berlin and send it out to see the world. Set Berlin to build the Colossus, just for laughs. This is the last turn we'll be able to research at a deficit.

IBT :sleep:

Turn 6 730BC Dial down research so now Literature won't be here until 11. Then I discover that our incense in now connected, so I dial down the lux slider, hire a scientist in Leipzig and all of a sudden Literature is back to 6 turns. I'd still like to get it before these temples complete so we can switch them over to libraries. Mao discovers the fine art of Construction and won't sell it to us at any price. We'll have to wait till the price goes down a bit. If we find anybody else soon we might be able to wheel and deal our way out of this primitive age.

IBT :sleep:

Turn 7 710BC Frankfurt gets its temple and I set it to build a swordsman. Just in case, you know. Can still be switched to a library when the time comes. Dial research down a notch, so we don't go below zero.

IBT :sleep:

Turn 8 670BC Micromanaging gets us Literature in 2.

I must have lost track of turns, cuz now it's 650BC. :confused: You all may say I'm being a pig, but I'm going to even this out and take it to 600BC evenly.

610BC Literature comes in! Time to wheel and deal. I'm not so worried about keeping the monopoly on this one, so as follows: Literature and Philosophy to Mao for Construction. Abe has nothing -- no cash, no techs, nothing. Elizabeth, on the other hand, will sell us Polytheism plus 16g(her monopoly tech that she can't trade 'cuz I don't think she knows anybody but us) for Construction and Writing. If she goes for Monarchy next we might be able to squeeze it out of her for trading as well.

Set research to Currency in 19.

590BC Last turn, I promise Move boats. Complete a couple of libraries and set to build swords. Frankfurt gets its culture expansion and so the horses we crave are now in reach. I refuse to get into any more mischief.

Summation We are tech kings of the world. Berlin is producing an even 10 shields per turn. I would leave it at that and not put the scientist back to work for the time being. It's set to build the Colossus in 12 turns, but could be switched to something else. I just like the Colossus as an early wonder. Workers are roading the riverside forest for some more gold, but shouldn't chop it. Konigsberg should be set back to growth after it pops its library next turn. It looks like Abe would like to settle into the little open area on our east coast. I think we can get Currency as a monopoly tech and use that to trade our way right to the middle ages.

Sorry I ran over on turns. Here's the >>SAVE<< and here's what the world looks like today.

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As far as I know, the current roster is:

Ansar the King - built archers for a war that never happened
Own - one turn to Republic!
SimpleMonkey - educated our Republic
conquer_dude - UP!
classical_hero - ON DECK
azzaman333 - burnt pizza
TimBentley - just played
CoolioVonHoolio - MIA??
 
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