Crusaders are dangerous, but not if we have tanks panzers. I find plain building fun, watching the cash flow slowly increase, it's nice. I think you are adhering to the principle of "attack early, they'll be easiest to kill sooner." This is true at high levels, but at monarch we can leave them in the dust technologically, then own them later.
CVH- Comeback of the Century (Axis of Evil)
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conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
That's what i was going to say. We sould wait until Panzers, and until the point the crusaders are obsolete.
SimpleMonkey
King
I'm hoping that you switched Konigsburg to something useful to save the shields, though there probably isn't anything at this point. Wait a minute, if we're close to Free Artistry, then we can switch it to a palace and then to Shakespere's in a few turns. I'd hate to waste the shields. Too bad about KT, but so it goes. The crusaders would have been nice, but they're not a deal breaker. They could be trouble if China gets froggy, since we're not going to have a decent defensive unit until Nationalism. We would probably have ended up using them to build fortresses, to be honest.
Again, if this were a different game, I'd be sending knights to Bejing on the double. But what exactly do we have to gain from fighting Mao right now? We can't claim his territory, and we lose a potential silk deal. And we'll have a tech lead on him that should make him as dead as fried chicken once the panzers roll. So unless we want to raze Bejing just to give ourselves something entertaining to do, I don't see the gain.
Good job Ansar! Solid turnset, and congrats on snagging Chemistry for us. ToG and Newton's, here we come! Now that's a wonder worth having.
Again, if this were a different game, I'd be sending knights to Bejing on the double. But what exactly do we have to gain from fighting Mao right now? We can't claim his territory, and we lose a potential silk deal. And we'll have a tech lead on him that should make him as dead as fried chicken once the panzers roll. So unless we want to raze Bejing just to give ourselves something entertaining to do, I don't see the gain.
Good job Ansar! Solid turnset, and congrats on snagging Chemistry for us. ToG and Newton's, here we come! Now that's a wonder worth having.
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
@Own: I guess I just fell bored and needed some action.
@Monkeyman: Thanks.
But I still have 5 more turns. About the Free Artistry, Democracy comes in 2, and it seems no one in researching. Good thing as listed in the rules, Rome is one of our allies.
I also forgot about switich to palace, good thing I still havent.
Yes, Newtons and Copernicus are so nice to have, + Shakes, all in the same city feels so good. But must remember, this is monarch, I shouldnt do this at emperor.
I'll play my other 5 tomorrow, must get to bed now.
@Monkeyman: Thanks.
But I still have 5 more turns. About the Free Artistry, Democracy comes in 2, and it seems no one in researching. Good thing as listed in the rules, Rome is one of our allies. I also forgot about switich to palace, good thing I still havent. Yes, Newtons and Copernicus are so nice to have, + Shakes, all in the same city feels so good. But must remember, this is monarch, I shouldnt do this at emperor.I'll play my other 5 tomorrow, must get to bed now.
azzaman333
meh
Lets raze Beijing, for fun.
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
Ansar: Just go finish it and DON'T attack. I want to play my turn. 
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
Team says peacefully, so I go peacefully.
save
ibt-
We learn Democracy, go for Free Artistry.
6. 910 AD-
Switch KT to Palace. 9 turns till Palace is done. Free Artistry will be researched in 5 turns.
ibt-
7. 920 AD-
ibt-
We lost our supply of Gems!
Renew it for 187 gold.
8. 930 AD-
ibt-
China demands Contact with Russia, I tell them to take a hike. They declare war.
And Japan declared war on Russia.
9. 940 AD-
Berlin bank-> pike. Our sword army kills a rider.(1-0) MI kills another Rider.(2-0) Move some units to the field for homeland security.
ibt-
Renew Dyes deal. MI kills a knight.(2-1)
10. 950 AD-
Lose a knight to a Rider.(2-2) MI kills Rider.(3-2)
Summary: Im so sorry I got us into this war, even though I wanted action.
I guess we will want peace ASAP. I am sending troops over, and thinking if we should make alliance with America for security measures? Well, I apologize and hope the next player can clean up after me...
. Also, Free Artistry is done next turn, so remember to switch Palace to Shakespeare Theater in Konisberg.
Map of the Battlefield: 950 AD
Roster:
conquer_dude - Up!
TimBentley - On Deck!
classical_hero -
azzaman333 -
Own -
SimpleMonkey -
Ansar the King - just played and got us into a war.
CoolioVonHoolio - MIA??
save
ibt-
We learn Democracy, go for Free Artistry.
6. 910 AD-
Switch KT to Palace. 9 turns till Palace is done. Free Artistry will be researched in 5 turns.
ibt-
7. 920 AD-
ibt-
We lost our supply of Gems!
Renew it for 187 gold.8. 930 AD-
ibt-
China demands Contact with Russia, I tell them to take a hike. They declare war.
And Japan declared war on Russia.9. 940 AD-
Berlin bank-> pike. Our sword army kills a rider.(1-0) MI kills another Rider.(2-0) Move some units to the field for homeland security.
ibt-
Renew Dyes deal. MI kills a knight.(2-1)
10. 950 AD-
Lose a knight to a Rider.(2-2) MI kills Rider.(3-2)
Summary: Im so sorry I got us into this war, even though I wanted action.
I guess we will want peace ASAP. I am sending troops over, and thinking if we should make alliance with America for security measures? Well, I apologize and hope the next player can clean up after me.... Also, Free Artistry is done next turn, so remember to switch Palace to Shakespeare Theater in Konisberg. Map of the Battlefield: 950 AD
Roster:
conquer_dude - Up!
TimBentley - On Deck!
classical_hero -
azzaman333 -
Own -
SimpleMonkey -
Ansar the King - just played and got us into a war.
CoolioVonHoolio - MIA??
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
Well, they dont seem so agressive, the sword army is keeping the riders at bay. and the MI's are going for backup since the chinese units wont go near Konisburg since it is being guarded by the army.
Hopefully we can get out of it without losing much, but if we do, it will be units.
and the MI's are going for backup since the chinese units wont go near Konisburg since it is being guarded by the army. Hopefully we can get out of it without losing much, but if we do, it will be units.
SimpleMonkey
King
I think we can hold out. Play defense for a bit (skirmish from strong points, let the AI do the marching at first) and then if we burn a city or two Mao will be reasonable. I suspect C_D can handle it. Let's see if we can keep Mao from getting his golden age and kill all his riders.
With the palace prebuild we should get Shakes no problem. And still be able to build Newton's in Berlin.
Japan is probably taking advantage of Russia's depleted state. If she's still at war with Rome and expending units, I'd expect to see some cities change hands. As I recall, Japan has iron and Cathy does not.
Let's see if we can keep Mao from getting his golden age and kill all his riders.With the palace prebuild we should get Shakes no problem. And still be able to build Newton's in Berlin.
Japan is probably taking advantage of Russia's depleted state. If she's still at war with Rome and expending units, I'd expect to see some cities change hands. As I recall, Japan has iron and Cathy does not.
azzaman333
meh
If possible, raze Beijing.
BUT, if it will risk the safety of any of our other cities, it is not worth it.
I guess its up to c_d though.
BUT, if it will risk the safety of any of our other cities, it is not worth it.
I guess its up to c_d though.
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
Consider htis post a "got it." Will play tomorow.
SimpleMonkey
King
Yeah, now that I think about it, maybe one viable strategy is to skirmish and play hit and run with some fast troops at home, and send another force out with the sole purpose of burning Beijing. That would get Mao's attention. Of course, it may be a bit before we have much of a force to send out, but that's another issue.
Of course, it may be a bit before we have much of a force to send out, but that's another issue.
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
I don't think I have time to play right now. I don't... I'll play it tonight if thats fine.
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
Skip me. No time to play.
SimpleMonkey
King
C_D, that's a shame. I'm sure you would have loved ripping up the Chinese.
All right then, the revised, revised roster is:
TimBentley - UP!
classical_hero - On Deck!
azzaman333 -
Own -
SimpleMonkey -
Ansar the King - just played and got us into a war
conquer_dude - skip
CoolioVonHoolio - MIA??
I'm sure you would have loved ripping up the Chinese. All right then, the revised, revised roster is:
TimBentley - UP!
classical_hero - On Deck!
azzaman333 -
Own -
SimpleMonkey -
Ansar the King - just played and got us into a war
conquer_dude - skip
CoolioVonHoolio - MIA??
SimpleMonkey
King
Okay, since we're hearing approximately nothing from tim, can you take this, C_H?? Let's not let this game go under.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
I will play this later on today. I've got it.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Preturn. I was able to decrease the science rate without stopping us from losing a turn. This should be a common trick by now. I also Managed to get America into the War with China. I had to give them Theology, but that is a worthless tech as far as we are concerned.
IBT. America Loses Chinan.
Turn 1. We get Free Artistry, why, I do not know, but we did. We are now researching Mettalurgy. We will get it in 5 turns. I have tried to see for a source of Saltpeter but alas we have none. MAD. I try to get some but noone has any for sale so we should look out for that if they ever get avialable. We managed to build more of our palace.
I establish an Embassy in Rome. From the looks of it, they are selling their surplus the the Japs, which is a shame.
I think we need to go to the Romans and connect there surplus Salt so that we can trade for it.
I also Trade Music Theory to the Russians for this. Getting cash for a useless tech is good value.
I establish an Embassy with the English and this is what we see. There is a purpose for this and I'll show why with the next picture.
Now this is the reason.
I also sell her our Iron and we get this.
I establish and Embassy in Kyoto.
And Finally I found and Embassy in Paris.
Look at all I did in just the first turn.
More to come in the next post.
IBT. America Loses Chinan.
Turn 1. We get Free Artistry, why, I do not know, but we did. We are now researching Mettalurgy. We will get it in 5 turns. I have tried to see for a source of Saltpeter but alas we have none. MAD. I try to get some but noone has any for sale so we should look out for that if they ever get avialable. We managed to build more of our palace.
I establish an Embassy in Rome. From the looks of it, they are selling their surplus the the Japs, which is a shame.
I think we need to go to the Romans and connect there surplus Salt so that we can trade for it.
I also Trade Music Theory to the Russians for this. Getting cash for a useless tech is good value.
I establish an Embassy with the English and this is what we see. There is a purpose for this and I'll show why with the next picture.
Now this is the reason.
I also sell her our Iron and we get this.
I establish and Embassy in Kyoto.
And Finally I found and Embassy in Paris.
Look at all I did in just the first turn.
More to come in the next post.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
IBT. Not Much, just some casulties to the Americans.
Turn 2. Every city that is not building a Wonder is onto knight duty. All archers are now Longbows. It cost us 180 to do that.
IBT. More casulties, but none to the Chinese.
Turn 3. We maneuver troops to take Chinan and this time we are going to burn it to the ground.
IBT. More losses but not to the one we want.
Turn 4. We gift the Americans Chivalry so that things are much better on the battlefield for our foes the Chinese. Basically it was a gift because we recieved their WM and 13 gold.
IBT. We lose a Long to a Rider. We lose our luxuries.
Turn 5. We kill two Riders with our army. We lose a Knight to a Rider on a Mountain. We kill it with a Long. We kill an ARcher and we have an Elite Knight. I get back our luxuries.
IBT. Not MUch, just some losse on both sides of the war, not us though.
Turn 6. We get Physics and now we are researching Magnetism.
IBT. Not much for us.
Turn 7. We kill two Longs on a hill. We lose two Medi's attacking a Rider, we kill it with our third attack.
IBT. We lose a Medi to a long
Turn 8. I want a RoP with Rome so I do this, so we can eventually get Saltpeter, which will mean Cavs and Cannons, but we might get Replaceable parts before then.
I kill a Long and pillage some roads that the Chinese have been using quite frequently. We build two more knights.
IBT. I kill and Archer but lose a Medi to a Long.
Turn 9. I kill the Long and I kill two pikes in Chinan but lose a Medi and have a Knight retreat.
IBT. Not much to report.
Turn 10. I finally manage to destroy Chinan. I kill a pike and two longs there for no lose but great injuries. I managed to capture three slaves. I also got two gold from them.
Our next objective is to destroy Shantung, since it is a major obsticle in our way to be getting rid of the Chinese.
The rest of our house is in order so lets remove the Chinese from our Territory.
Turn 2. Every city that is not building a Wonder is onto knight duty. All archers are now Longbows. It cost us 180 to do that.
IBT. More casulties, but none to the Chinese.
Turn 3. We maneuver troops to take Chinan and this time we are going to burn it to the ground.
IBT. More losses but not to the one we want.
Turn 4. We gift the Americans Chivalry so that things are much better on the battlefield for our foes the Chinese. Basically it was a gift because we recieved their WM and 13 gold.
IBT. We lose a Long to a Rider. We lose our luxuries.
Turn 5. We kill two Riders with our army. We lose a Knight to a Rider on a Mountain. We kill it with a Long. We kill an ARcher and we have an Elite Knight. I get back our luxuries.
IBT. Not MUch, just some losse on both sides of the war, not us though.
Turn 6. We get Physics and now we are researching Magnetism.
IBT. Not much for us.
Turn 7. We kill two Longs on a hill. We lose two Medi's attacking a Rider, we kill it with our third attack.
IBT. We lose a Medi to a long
Turn 8. I want a RoP with Rome so I do this, so we can eventually get Saltpeter, which will mean Cavs and Cannons, but we might get Replaceable parts before then.
I kill a Long and pillage some roads that the Chinese have been using quite frequently. We build two more knights.
IBT. I kill and Archer but lose a Medi to a Long.
Turn 9. I kill the Long and I kill two pikes in Chinan but lose a Medi and have a Knight retreat.
IBT. Not much to report.
Turn 10. I finally manage to destroy Chinan. I kill a pike and two longs there for no lose but great injuries. I managed to capture three slaves. I also got two gold from them.
Our next objective is to destroy Shantung, since it is a major obsticle in our way to be getting rid of the Chinese.
The rest of our house is in order so lets remove the Chinese from our Territory.
