DaNES I: At the Precipice

[~Darkening~]

I do think the British could have put up a better fight. I mean the losses they had in and around Lille is sad compared to ours. Not to mention how poorly the French did, barely holding on to Paris. That is to be expected from such a nation though.

Wait a second, I know I'm not hearing Lucky actually act like he did something . Last time I checked, his troops were being used for cannon-fodder- certainly not leading any charges. And I advise you to reread that section- we drove the Germans (and your cannon fodder) away from the Channel, and still held Paris. You do realize what was defending Paris from your siege, right? I had 10 infantry, and 15 artillery- not even half of what was dedicated to other fields! Your pathetic attacks failed against those few garrisons and militia- and that was the German attacks, nothing was mentioned about the Belgium doing anything on their own. All-in-all, France held her capital- not even dedicating the same forces to defend it as what was given to other regions- against the strongest army in the world, and her cannon fodder- when I quite frankly expected to lose it. That turn speaks more on how screwed up your alliance is than anything else .

To 'Blue' Russia
From France

If you pay for your crimes, France will not meddle if your affairs. And quite unlike every member of your old 'alliance', France keeps her word.

To Japan
From France

Traitors deserve no rewards. Do not even pretend that your reasoning behind this unjust assault was the 'Spanish assault', as any cow with a brain could see how Spain was clearly not in blame of that situation. This war, from the start, is nothing more than the expansionist dreams of the Americans- look now at how they unjustly attack Canada. While you may parade around behind that "logic" you quote, we know the true reasoning of your abandonment- you're people are simply cowards. Too afraid to fight against the might for what is truly right, you run with your tail hidden between your legs into the dark night. Yes, France is aware of just how badly our embattled alliance is- and even with that knowledge, we still fight. The old order of this world may die out, but I guarantee you that we will gladly take a few of you along with us. We will not surrender to bloodthirsty aggressors- no matter how close or far away they are. For a nation so earger to look to their past and ancestors, you so willingly break their oaths and friends.

Should you remove yourself from this war, France would be willing to discuss the eventual turnover of French Indochina, but it will not be given unjustly. If this does not please you, then by all send your men to die senselessly like the other ignorant expansionists, and pray for forgivness from your people.

 

[Luckymoose]

@ Dark: What are you talking about. I only had 12 divisions and they were cut off from the assault on Paris by the British. Who even with a large army still couldn't beat my small force in the region. I was the only one leading an attack on Paris itself and I had lost most forces previously severely weakening my attacking force. Dachs didn't take in my advise for months of attrition warfare apparently. Nor my project.

Edit: The fact that a smaller German and Belgian counter attack force defeated the British and French armies is hilarious.

 

[Thlayli]

Yay, yay, France didn't lose their capital, stunning.

From: The United States
To: The Global Alliance

Basra. Mexico City. Auckland. Toronto. Belgrade. Metz. The victories of the Global Alliance are truly that: Global. Today we see German troops on the verge of Paris, Arab troops on the verge of Cairo, and American troops on the verge of Quebec. Given another year of decisive fighting, we will soon see a conclusion to this global conflict, the global triumph of democracy vanquishing the relics of imperialism.

From: Secretary of State Joseph Stellinger
To: The Russian Provisional Government, the Russian Monarchist Government

The Government of the United States wishes to offer the following points as basis for peaceful discussion on Russian reunification:

1. That the previous alliances and treaty agreements of the Russian Empire remain in force, including her membership in the Global Alliance.
2. That the Russian people have a right to representation and a free, democratic government, without eliminating outright the legitimate political authority of the Tsar as ceremonial head of state.
3. That the Russian government and military do not abrogate her domestic and wartime responsibilities to prevent undue Entente influence in perpetuating the civil war.

Of course, all of these points are open to private negotiation. We understand the unstable nature of Russian politics, and it would be distasteful for the United States to support one of two factions with which we both sympathize. Therefore, we wish to invite representatives of the Monarchist and Provisional Government factions to San Francisco, for a series of informal talks on resolving the situation before Russia is unacceptably damaged by civil war.

 

[~Darkening~]

@ Dark: What are you talking about. I only had 12 divisions and they were cut off from the assault on Paris by the British. Who even with a large army still couldn't beat my small force in the region. I was the only one leading an attack on Paris itself and I had lost most forces previously severely weakening my attacking force. Dachs didn't take in my advise for months of attrition warfare apparently. Nor my project.

Edit: The fact that a smaller German and Belgian counter attack force defeated the British and French armies is hilarious.

Apparently I take a different look from the actual update. From what I saw, France managed (with the British assistance) to turn around an assault and drive forces away from the Channel ("Von Mackensen, under heavy fire from several directions, outnumbered, and with his rear areas a mess due to the confusing presence of large numbers of Belgian troops, was forced to withdraw from the Channel ports during the epic Lille Campaign, ") and secure the Channel once more (my biggest goal so far.) Not only that, they managed to drive said army out of France proper to Belgium, where they were ordered not to attempt a break-through ("turning Lille into a black hole, a “hornet’s nest” after the famed American tactic at Shiloh during their Civil War. Having successfully halted the main Entente sucker punch"; I had ordered to remain within France). Correct me if I'm wrong, but the attack on Paris was "coordinated" and a 'joint' attack, and Paris was defended by mainly conscripts and few regulars ("Finally, in late August, the siege of Paris began in earnest; the coordinated Belgo-German attack on the Paris forts that guarded the entrances to the cities was surprisingly repulsed by vast numbers of French civilian conscripts along with the support of a select few Regulars"). So unless Dachs read the situation wrongly, then those direct quotes prove everything you just said wrong.

And while I think Flavius is doing a amazing job considering he's quite new (and against vastly more experienced opponents), I do think he should have gained more experience before tackling Britain. While I can understand counter sentiment about me, if someone more experienced came to the plate I would be quite happy.

Yay, yay, France didn't lose their capital, stunning.

Yay, yay, America attacks yet another person unprovoked, the Giant alliance grows yet once again, the Two superpowers fail miserably to inflict any direct damage, and yet for some reason they're proud of their selves.

the global triumph of democracy vanquishing the relics of imperialism.

-hilarious laugh-

You know, I've considered the Entente to be an increadbly screwed up alliance, but after seeing yours in action, I'm quite suddenly happy with it.

 

[Luckymoose]

Yay, yay, France didn't lose their capital, stunning.

From: The United States
To: The Global Alliance

Basra. Mexico City. Auckland. Toronto. Belgrade. Metz. The victories of the Global Alliance are truly that: Global. Today we see German troops on the verge of Paris, Arab troops on the verge of Cairo, and American troops on the verge of Quebec. Given another year of decisive fighting, we will soon see a conclusion to this global conflict, the global triumph of democracy vanquishing the relics of imperialism.

TO: The United States
FROM: Kingdom of Belgium

Belgian troops hold the border at Lille. Soon the British will be repulsed from continental Europe and Paris will be firmly in Allied hands. Congratulations on victories in Canada and the Caribbean.


OOC: Don't forget who took the most damage at Paris Thlayli. Kal didn't do all the work, though I am upset with this cannon fodder news. I never planned that.

Apparently I take a different look from the actual update. From what I saw, France managed (with the British assistance) to turn around an assault and drive forces away from the Channel ("Von Mackensen, under heavy fire from several directions, outnumbered, and with his rear areas a mess due to the confusing presence of large numbers of Belgian troops, was forced to withdraw from the Channel ports during the epic Lille Campaign, ") and secure the Channel once more (my biggest goal so far.) Not only that, they managed to drive said army out of France proper to Belgium, where they were ordered not to attempt a break-through ("turning Lille into a black hole, a “hornet’s nest” after the famed American tactic at Shiloh during their Civil War. Having successfully halted the main Entente sucker punch"; I had ordered to remain within France). Correct me if I'm wrong, but the attack on Paris was "coordinated" and a 'joint' attack, and Paris was defended by mainly conscripts and few regulars ("Finally, in late August, the siege of Paris began in earnest; the coordinated Belgo-German attack on the Paris forts that guarded the entrances to the cities was surprisingly repulsed by vast numbers of French civilian conscripts along with the support of a select few Regulars"). So unless Dachs read the situation wrongly, then those direct quotes prove everything you just said wrong.

And while I think Flavius is doing a amazing job considering he's quite new (and against vastly more experienced opponents), I do think he should have gained more experience before tackling Britain. While I can understand counter sentiment about me, if someone more experienced came to the plate I would be quite happy.

@ Darkening: I think you misunderstood the situation. Hopefully the map will clear this up. It sounds as though we retook the lands near the Channel. The attack on Paris from the north was all me. Though I am glad you are putting up a fight. I like hard wars.

 

[Thlayli]

We'll have to build a war memorial in Lille for the noble sacrifices of so many Belgians. Free waffles will be distributed on national holidays.

 

[~Darkening~]

I think you misunderstood the situation. Hopefully the map will clear this up. It sounds as though we retook the lands near the Channel. The attack on Paris from the north was all me. Though I am glad you are putting up a fight. I like hard wars.

How exactly does it sound like that?! "using the Belgian troops more or less as cannon fodder, halted the Anglo-French drive just inside the Belgian border during June and July, turning Lille into a black hole, a “hornet’s nest” after the famed American tactic at Shiloh during their Civil War", then there's nothing mentioned but the attack on Paris and the south-which both held! The old, decript French army just taught you young whipersnappers a lesson!.

 

[Thlayli]

Oh, I forgot to mention, brilliant update Dachs.

 

[LittleBoots]

@Dachs - Did my bonds not work out as much as I'd hoped (thus 10 Reserve Infantry instead of 20?).

Also, is there a specific equation for military upkeep?

Wonderful update!

 

[~Darkening~]

The update pretty much shocked me, so brilliant job Dachs .

 

[Luckymoose]

I agree it was amazing.

 

[Kal'thzar]

You Know, Darkening if you stopped trumpting about your victories you'd see the trap your being led into but I don't think you can get the perspective.

 

[~Darkening~]

You Know, Darkening if you stopped trumpting about your victories you'd see the trap your being led into but I don't think you can get the perspective.

What- a trap that will eventually finish me? You haven't been paying attention, have you? I honestly didn't expect to survive two turns, so this is amazing for me. And while you may see it as bragging, I simply see it as putting Lucky back in his place- as he first started to brag- I'm quite a believer in an eye for an eye.

 

[Kal'thzar]

ach Dark, you have no concept of beauty.

oh and an eye for an eye is perhaps the stupidist rule ever to exist.

 

[Disenfrancised]

@France: You may present a bill when you survive, it is our opinion that Russia should not have entered this war, not that the Entente was in the right.

From: Secretary of State Joseph Stellinger
To: The Russian Provisional Government, the Russian Monarchist Government

The Government of the United States wishes to offer the following points as basis for peaceful discussion on Russian reunification:

1. That the previous alliances and treaty agreements of the Russian Empire remain in force, including her membership in the Global Alliance.
2. That the Russian people have a right to representation and a free, democratic government, without eliminating outright the legitimate political authority of the Tsar as ceremonial head of state.
3. That the Russian government and military do not abrogate her domestic and wartime responsibilities to prevent undue Entente influence in perpetuating the civil war.

Of course, all of these points are open to private negotiation. We understand the unstable nature of Russian politics, and it would be distasteful for the United States to support one of two factions with which we both sympathize. Therefore, we wish to invite representatives of the Monarchist and Provisional Government factions to San Francisco, for a series of informal talks on resolving the situation before Russia is unacceptably damaged by civil war.

-We are suprised to see america not support the legitmately elected government. The fact of the matter are, 1) The Tsar choose to abdicate following an national election. 2) The groups of the provisional government won that election 3) Micheal, self-proclaimed Tsar, then instituted an rebellion against said government resulting in a great loss of life. It is not the man who signed away Russias freedoms to you who is rebelling, it is a spoilt prince who wishes to retain his power. There is no need for 'reunification', there is a legitmate Russia, and a gain of aristocratic criminals who will be brought to trial.

-We had every intent to honour whomever of the Royal Family the new Tsar was on his election, but not the rebel Grand Duke Micheal who is not the Tsar. Frankly this business is souring the PG on the Monarchy altogether.

-The provisional government rejects the Coolidges adminstrations attempts to interfer in what is a Russian affair, and any aide or succour any foreign power grants to the rebel Grand Duke is anathema to us.

-Finally we reject treaties and obligations forced on us by an unrepresentative government, we will pay our financial debts of course, but will withdraw from this foolish war and reconsider all alliances on a case by case basis.

 

[Luckymoose]

What- a trap that will eventually finish me? You haven't been paying attention, have you? I honestly didn't expect to survive two turns, so this is amazing for me. And while you may see it as bragging, I simply see it as putting Lucky back in his place- as he first started to brag- I'm quite a believer in an eye for an eye.

You haven't put me in my place. I just haven't put you in yours yet either.

Christmas at Lille
Observation of the War and Belgium

Men of the Second Infantry Division at Lille​

In the words of Prime Minister Henri Jaspar, “This battle [Lille] is the beginning of the end for the French military as a viable offensive force. British efforts to support have gone in vain, with the loss of more men and equipment than the German and Belgian armies combined. The Entente landings at Calais are nothing more than a futile effort to show strength when none remains. Our men, fighting gallantly, on the front those living and dead. Will be remembered forever as the remarkable individuals who gave it all up in the name of peace and justice. Spanish forces in the Americas have been extinguished and Canada itself is on its knees. Our enemies will never again be a threat, this war is one that will instigate a unprecedented era of peace and prosperity. All that is left to bring about this new enlightened age is a final swing of the Hammer at Lille. Driving the final nail in the coffin for the Entente.”

BELGIUM WILL ALWAYS BE A DRIVING FORCE IN THE MODERN WORLD.

The prime minister visited out troops outside Lille this Christmas to spread encouragement and hope. Bringing with him cameras to show the war at home, the happy faces of Belgian troops. The destruction of British and French lines. The victories over the Entente powers and the election of the RMR into office will bring a new age of glory to Belgium. The prime minister spoke about his election victory early in the year, during the mid year elections to replace the failing Catholic Party.

Henri Jaspar is an intelligent and successful member of the Belgian government, formerly a member of the Catholic party and also a Lawyer. Born in Schaerbeek in 1870.

2nd DIVISION MAKES SUCCESSFUL ASSAULTS AT LILLE

The second infantry division, one of the finest in the Belgian military. Recently breaking a French position to the west of Lille with superior tactics. It is reported many French surrendered and are now being held by the army to be transported to Germany for holding till wars end. Members of the Division also served in the Siege of Paris briefly in the beginning of the first assaults. Before being moved to stop the British invasion force. Known for unrelenting prowess on the battlefield, these men will stop at nothing, and no one can stop them, from achieving victory in the toughest situations.

OOC: I know a pitiful attempt at a story.

 

[Thlayli]

The United States does recognize legitimately elected governments, but also wishes to retain an acceptable balance of power.

If the Provisional Government wishes to make blatant pronouncements without consultation that further reduce the chance of cooperation with the United States and the Global Alliance, it will only push the United States towards supporting a Russian faction that will honor her previous commitments.

With that said, we repeat our offer of negotiations.

Unless the Provisional Government presumes that it can overcome both civil war and foreign intervention, we advise her to accept American arbitration, not American interference.

 

[Disenfrancised]

If the Provisional Government wishes to make blatant pronouncements without consultation that further reduce the chance of cooperation with the United States and the Global Alliance, it will only push the United States towards supporting a Russian faction that will honor her previous commitments.

The PG is interested in purchasing a new english-russian dictionary, ours obviously has an out-moded definition of 'Alliance'. The Triple alliance was entered into by the pervious regime freely, and now we as the freely elected representatives of the people are choosing to leave it freely and enter a more neutral state in order preserve the people of the Empire and our prosperity.

With that said, we repeat our offer of negotiations.

And we continue to reject them - to take an example from your own much vaunted history: would the Union have choosen to negociate with the Confederacy?

Unless the Provisional Government presumes that it can overcome both civil war and foreign intervention, we advise her to accept American arbitration, not American interference.

There will be no negociation with the rebellion that affords it status of a legally recognised entity. We are happy to make terms with individual rebels if they choose to surrender. Immaterial of your 'thinly' veiled threats, we will continue to do what is in the best interests of our electorate (not ourselves), and what is right. Do not presume the right or the power to interfere in an internal matter of our great nation.

 

[#1 Person]

Indeed a well worth wait for the update. (It ryhmes deal with it...)
Is there a map however?

Edit: oh, my government type seems to have suddenly reverted back to absolute monarchy. It should be like "Theocratic Republic" or whatever floats your boat

 

[Shadowbound]

OOC:
I need to read these rules closely. Everything is noted, and I'll find some use for all that banked eco next turn.