DaNES II: When the Stars Fall

From The Kingdom of Aigyptos
To The Kingdm of Mysia

Though we wish nothing but peace for Mysia, we see no connection between your current conflict and the conflict between Aigyptos, Makedonia and Perseid.
 
From The Kingdom of Aigyptos
To The Kingdm of Mysia

Though we wish nothing but peace for Mysia, we see no connection between your current conflict and the conflict between Aigyptos, Makedonia and Perseid.

To: Kingdom of Aigyptos
From: Kingdom of Mysia

But there is a connection between my conflict against Pisidia and their conflict against the Perseids.
 
The following are the preliminary articles of the Treaty of Panormos Syrakousai:

1. In return for the cession of Kyrenaia and the portions of Southern Ioudaia currently occupied by Aigyptos, that nation will tender to the Perseid Empire 1000 talents.

2. In return for the cession of Attika, the Perseid Empire will tender 1500 talents to the Kingdom of Makedonia.

3. Both Makedonia and Aigyptos agree not to set troops upon Asia Minor, nor effect to influence the conflict there in any way.

4. The current possessors of Aegean islands will be recognized as the legitimate possessors of those islands, at current borders.

5. All hostilities will cease immediately. As a neutral arbiter in the conflict, Panormos will convey all monetary payments by sea, and will withhold payment in the event of any treaty violations.

6. The hostilities in Asia Minor are viewed to be an independent affair of the Kingdoms of Pisidia, Mysia, and the Perseid Empire. While we encourage these groups to settle a separate peace, we do not consider it under the purview of this treaty, beyond the declarations of non-intervention in Asia Minor.

Awaiting the signature of:

Basileus Andronikos I
Basileus Archelaos III
Basileus Amyntas IV

Of course, counteroffers are still welcome at this stage.
 
What are the names and alignments of the different poleis of the Pontic League? Can I have a faction rundown for the Kimmerians?
East to west: Amastris, Sinope, Amisos, Themiskyra, Kerasous, Trapezous. Amastris leans towards Mysia and was occupied by Trapezan troops at the start of the civil war. Sinope has an ongoing rivalry with Amisos and is generally semi-loyal to Trapezous. Amisos is a budding trade rival of Sinope and Trapezous and tends to chafe at the Man forcing them into imposed trade concessions. Themiskyra is a relatively minor polis that usually sides with Trapezous. Kerasos has long-term ties to the Bosporans in terms of trade and supporting them against Trapezan political protagonism but lately they've had a collaborationist series of magistrates. And Trapezous is in charge of the whole thing. Most of these city-states also have a sizable opposition of some kind that you could find in place/put into place.

PM to germanicus12 said:
Pantikapaion: capital and largest polis. Governed internally by a boule. The ruling dynasty is native to here and enjoys wide support. Generally supports actions geared towards a naval increase and war with Mysia if they screw around on the European side of the Straits again.
Merchantry: the merchants. Oppose large-scale naval increases, support a short naval war with Mysia if they screw around at the Straits again. Usually support buying off raids from the Antes and Ruxsalannoi as compared to launching military campaigns against them.
Gorgipeia: the polis of Gorgipeia (OMD Anapa). Supports military operations against the Antes the most out of basically everybody. Obviously enough opposes losing autonomy.
Chersonesos: the polis of Chersonesos (OMD Sevastopol). Supports most of the same stuff Pantikapaion does right now. It will probably be replaced as a faction by Olbia within the next few turns.
Skythoi: the various 'Skythian' groups settled within the bounds of the kingdom. Heavily Sophist, just like everybody else, and reasonably Hellenized. They like getting more territory on which to do their pastoralist thing, and so generally like it if you reduce the chorai of individual poleis to add to their reservations; they aren't really that hungry for land right now, though. Usually have a lot of friction with the Antes.
Applying for Areia.

I'm fairly new to NESing. I started as Bavaria in Imperial Glory, and nothing I did went wrong. My Legelians seem to be doing well enough.

Hopefully I can rescue Areia and stop it falling apart.
You're golden. Applications were for the pre-thread, not this one. :p I'll forward you a PM shortly, containing some of the half-witted "diplomacy" I conducted yesterday in players' stead.
Uh dachs just a question, but Areia stats look a bit weird.

Ok I'm a bit surprised that they were able to afford what was essentially building ships up to 75 (what they had on the first turn), and also taking 43 ship losses, their army confidence went down by 2, and they still have a confidence of 4 (did it go up again?). It just seems unchanged in a lot of ways, and like they got all their purchases but not many of their losses. Could you have another look?
That's what comes of doing stats that early in the morning. :blush:
From The Kingdom of Aigyptos
To The Perseid Empire


King Amyntas is willing to hold peace talks in Alexandria between the Kingdom of Aigyptos, the Kingdom of Makedonia and the Pereid Empire.
Holy anachronisms Batman
 
Thanks, Dachs. By the way, shouldn't you have sent that faction list to Espoir, not Germanicus?

This treaty has been negotiated between Baktria and Areia. Please could Kaspareia, the Maszakata, and Sogdiane sign the treaty.



Treaty of Hekatompylos with Baktria

Arsinoe, daughter of Basileus Arkadios, shall be married to Basileus Diodotos of Baktria next year in the city of Baktra.

Areia shall cede to Baktria precisely all the land that it currently occupies.

Kaspareian troops shall withdraw from Baktria, and Baktria will pay Kaspareia an indemnity of 150 talents.

Baktrian troops shall withdraw from Sogdiane.

Signed Basileus Arkadios of Areia



Treaty of Hekatompylos with the Maszakata Horde

Areia shall not rebuild the Hyrkanian Wall.

Areia shall pay the Maszakata Horde 160 talents every year (800 per turn) and none of the Maszakata Horde shall attack Areia again.

If any of the Horde breaches the treaty, Areia shall be entitled to rebuild the wall, but Areia is obliged to pay the tribute unless an organised invasion of Areian territory takes place.

Signed Basileus Arkadios of Areia



To Hellenoarabic poleis on the Gulf that were attacking our shipping
From Areia


If you cease to attack our shipping, we will cease to attack yours, and we are also willing to reduce duties in our ports on imports from your poleis a bit.
 
Thanks, Dachs. By the way, shouldn't you have sent that faction list to Espoir, not Germanicus?
Ah, no, germanicus was playing the Bosporans earlier, asked for a faction list, so I sent it to him, except he whiffed on both order sets, leaving them open for Espoir to take. So I just copied the list from the earlier message to germanicus.
spryllino said:
To Hellenoarabic poleis on the Gulf that were attacking our shipping
From Areia


If you cease to attack our shipping, we will cease to attack yours, and we are also willing to reduce duties in our ports on imports from your poleis a bit.
So long as the indiscriminate commerce-raiding is over, we're cool.
 
Dachs, could I possibly have the signatures of Kaspareia and the Maszakata Horde for my Treaty?
 
Kaspeireia's holding out for an indemnity from Baktria. They'll go away for 150 talents.

The Mazsakata are cool with the treaty as is.
 
To the Seleukids
From Areia


We are willing to pay an indemnity if you remove yourselves fully.
 
Treaty of Hekatompylos with the Maszakata Horde

Areia shall not rebuild the Hyrkanian Wall.

Areia shall pay the Maszakata Horde 160 talents every year (800 per turn) and none of the Maszakata Horde shall attack Areia again.

If any of the Horde breaches the treaty, Areia shall be entitled to rebuild the wall, but Areia is obliged to pay the tribute unless an organised invasion of Areian territory takes place.

Signed Basileus Arkadios of Areia
Agreed.
 
Consequences

After a conference that lasted for several days to decide how to attempt to retake Silakoufstat from the Iberian forces Trohtîn Wiolant met privately with Lord Othar to do something Lord Othar never expected, apologize sincerely. Lord Othar walked in not sure what to expect and then saw the Trohtîn looking for once in his life as old as he was. Lord Othar had remembered the Trohtîn as a man who seemed full of life and far younger than he was, no longer was that the case. The man before Othar was a shell of his former self and it was obvious why. The Trohtîn motioned for Othar to come and sit with him and so he did.

“Son, I want to apologize to you and through you to the remaining Sidona Bastarna. I was simply too focused on Nerwia and the Aorsi to see what Iberia was planning, but looking back now…” The Trohtîn dropped his head slightly for a moment and the sorrow only a ruler, who had failed, even just once, could know. Then he continued before Othar could speak. “To show the commitment of my family to all of the Bastarna my son and heir Ewald shall marry your sister if you will allow it.”

Othar was stunned. He knew that Ewald would have to wed soon, everyone knew that he really should have already been wed, but Othar had certainly not expected this. He searched his feelings and thoughts and discovered that he understood the full reasoning of the Trohtîn. It was simple really, the Sidona Bastarna might never be strong again, but they were still Bastarna and here the Trohtîn was offering them the chance to join with his own Bastarna. Othar knew some would rather marry and join the Atmona Bastarna since they blamed the Trohtîn for their losses. Othar did not blame him. And so the answer was inevitable once the train of thought had completed itself in all of a few seconds.

“Yes Trohtîn, on behalf of my family and the Sidona Bastarna I say that no apology is necessary. Just look around us and everywhere there are wars and conflicts. I feel it was only natural to ignore the one region where there was no conflict as far as we could tell.” Lord Othar paused and felt distinctly odd giving away the hand of his older sister when he was not even 14, but a man’s responsibilities had fallen on his shoulders and he would do his father and brothers proud. “On the matter of my sister I accept the betrothal to your son and heir Ewald.”

The Trohtîn smiled and sent a servant to fetch his heir, while Othar did the same for his sister. The time until their arrival was spent discussing what would happen to the Sidona Bastarna as a result of this terrible conflict. The discussion was halted once the now betrothed pair had arrived. Ewald took it as if it was expected, which Othar thought it probably was as Ewald was his father’s most trusted advisor and surely discussed this beforehand. Joscelin was quiet for a moment as she took in the sudden change in her life and then smiled politely and grasped the hand Ewald had offered her as soon as the announcement had been made. Othar could only hope Ewald would make her happy, but he knew in the end that didn’t matter. This had to be done to secure the future of Walhia and Othar would do all in his limited power to do so.

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The Retaliation Begins

The plans had been made, the warriors had been told, and the march to battle was on. Ewald rode along with Othar and Gernot, who Othar had adopted into his family as a reward for his loyal service to the late Lord Raimond, as they led their men to try and retake Silakoufstat. They marched through the light rain as the fall now had a firm grip on the land. This would probably be the last battle of the season regardless of the outcome since winter was almost upon them.

The warriors marched on singing bawdy songs to entertain themselves through the long walk to where many of them would not come back. They all knew it and accepted it. For everyone went when it was their time and it was not a thing to fear, it simply was what it was and the gods would care for them in the afterlife.

The morning of the assault had arrived and the Walhian army sat in the tree line near Silakoufstat waiting for the call to attack. Men stood checking that their shields were ready, weapons were sharp, watching the Iberian scum, and some stood on the edge of reason either due to anticipation or fear. The call went out and the men burst from the trees.

The Iberians readied their lines and rebuffed the initial assault. The Walhian forces met them several more times but the Iberians held firm. Eventually the Walhians marched out of bowshot and set up camp for the night. The Iberians had also settled in for the evening. Both sides staring at the other in the dark imagining the victories they would achieve in the morning.

The losses on both sides were light as this was simply the initial feelers from both sides as they examined each other and their leaders tried to see what the weak points in formations, leadership, or position were. Everyone on both sides knew the next day losses would be far heavier.

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Messengers Arrive

The war council sat discussing what to do when the combat resumes and deciding who would lead what when a sentry returned with a rider who was almost half dead with exhaustion.

All of the council stopped what they were saying or doing and looked over at the arrival and waited for him to recover enough to tell them what had happened now. The tale was as surprising as it was unbelievable.

“My lords,” the messenger paused for another moment to compose himself. “I am a scout keeping watch on the Nerwian border when refugees began coming into Walhia.” He paused a moment as if waiting for questions but none came. “They came in large numbers, many families, and possibly whole villages. They all said the same thing, Nerwia is lost.” His audience gasped and spilled drink in surprise.

“So then the Rebel won as we hoped?” asked Sir Kuno, heir of the Yazyga. Several others sighed in apparent relief. Their relief was short lived.

“No, milord. Neither claimant to the throne won the civil war. They are both dead and their lands taken by a tribe calling themselves the Goths.” Silence was eerily absolute. Not even the animals and insects made noise on this still evening as if the whole world held its very breath.

Then the Trohtîn stood and faced the gathered council. “We must withdraw for the moment while we figure out these Goths and what they wish. We can only hope they wish us no ill, but with the results in Nerwia, I very much doubt it.” He glanced over the assembled war council and continued once he was convinced of the determination in their eyes. “We face a threat to the very existence of Walhia like we have never known nor expected. A war with Iberia was always possible, but now we face a war with Iberia and this new threat the Goths. We shall have to pull back and discover what we may do and make sure these tales of Nerwia’s loss are true.”

That next morning the Iberians manned their posts and waited for the charge. At first they thought the Walhians had moved back into the tree line to protect against archers being sent forward, but once the scouts returned and confirmed the Walhians had marched off in the night.

The soldiers were stunned. They knew they would defeat the Walhians (as all soldiers believe they will win if the army is large enough) but this sudden retreat was a mystery. Some began to cheer, but most simply tried to figure out why they had backed off. The answer would not come for a long time, as winter was setting in.
 
We apologies to the other signatories for messing them about, but we have just realised that what we said before was not what we negotiated with Baktria.

Could Sogdiane, Kaspareia, and Baktria sign this treaty instead?


Treaty of Hekatompylos with Baktria

Arsinoe, daughter of Basileus Arkadios, shall be married to Basileus Diodotos of Baktria next year in the city of Baktra.

Kaspareian troops shall withdraw from Baktria, and Baktria will pay Kaspareia an indemnity of 150 talents.

Baktrian troops shall withdraw from Sogdiane.

Areia shall cede to Baktria all the land shown in the map below.

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Signed Basileus Arkadios of Areia
 
We sign off with Sogdiane, and Areia. But Kaspereia, unless you stop your demand for talents, there will be no peace between us.
 
To: Baktria
From: Kaspeireia

Bring it on, little man.
 
From:Baktria
To: Areia and Sogdiane

Alright so were at peace now? I am glad to see that we can overcome our differences and lead to a long and prosperous relationship.

From:Baktria
To:Kaspereia

Let's do this.
 
To Baktria
From Areia


Absolutely. May peace reign between our two nations for all time. May your majesty live forever.
 
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