Deputization.

[Millman]

Sorry if I don't get the exact word right. I remember someone saying 'if you see something, say it.'

Isn't that an official deputization. Does every American civilian have the power to arrest now? This is my argument for public vs. private.

Getting drafted by the government for police work without uniforms and salary. I want my money back.

Edit-anyone has to be careful what they say and do. Your idea could backfire on you.

 

[bombshoo]

'if you see something, say it.'

This was originally the slogan New York used after 9/11 to report suspicious activity, particularly suspected terrorist activity. It was recently expanded by the DHS in light of the holiday season again. There has been an enormous number of calls reporting activity, so in that sense it has been an effective program, but funny enough, I remember reading that not one of these tip offs of "suspicious activity" has yet led to a real lasting case.

It doesn't mean citizen's arrest in any particular sense, which as far as I know has had no major changes on a federal level in recent years and laws for this tend to be on a state by state basis. From my understanding it basically means a citizen can assist in an arrest or basically detain someone they see committing a crime until the police arrive. It's not exactly official either in most instances, it really just means you will not be punished if you had just cause for detaining a person. I wouldn't call this "deputization" of American civilians.

 

[.Shane.]

Sorry if I don't get the exact word right. I remember someone saying 'if you see something, say it.'

And the best part is that the common citizen is sooooo qualified to know what is properly suspicious. It results in so many false positives that its actually HARMFUL to the process of catching legitimate terrorists.

 

[Millman]

Then I wonder who the public official was talking to?

 

[bombshoo]

Then I wonder who the public official was talking to?

What do you mean? Is there some outside link you are referring too?

 

[Millman]

I live in Washington, State. Why do I need to hear of this local event of advice?

I know it's a shame/sham that I'm now talking about it, but in the future...

 

[bombshoo]

I live in Washington, State. Why do I need to hear of this local event of advice?

I know it's a shame/sham that I'm now talking about it, but in the future...

I'm still not sure of what you mean but my guess is you heard on the news or saw a speech that had something to do with this:

The Department of Homeland Security announced Monday that they will be expanding the “If You See Something, Say Something” campaign in preparation of heightened travel amid the Holiday season.

According to a joint statement from DHS and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the campaign will reach beyond the transportation industry and will now be aimed at the U.S.’ lodging industry.

“The partnerships we build in communities and with travelers are critical to supporting our security mission,” TSA Administrator John Pistole said. “We saw with the failed Times Square attack the impact alert travelers can have.”

The campaign, which urges Americans to report suspicious activity while traveling, will reportedly undergo additional expansions in the coming months.

From: http://www.talkradionews.com/quickn...you-see-something-say-something-campaign.html

Yes it is somewhat of a joke, in that it basically has been proven ineffective, but its really pretty standard around the holidays. It's probably basically the Obama administration's change from the even stupider color code system that the Bush admin. used.

 

[History_Buff]

Does every American civilian have the power to arrest now?

As I recall, you could always make a citizens arrest, but as a public citizen you can't use force to enforce that arrest.

 

[Millman]

It depends on the situation. Theft vs. saving someone's life. That is why War is anarchy and the lack of government. Anyone who survives can make the rules the way they want as long as they survive.

 

[Bugfatty300]

As I recall, you could always make a citizens arrest, but as a public citizen you can't use force to enforce that arrest.

Of course you can use force when making a citizen's arrest. Otherwise there wouldn't be much of a point to it. But you have to be careful because there isn't much of a line between that and unlawful restraint/confinement/kidnapping.

 

[Millman]

My point is a deputization without a purpose shows a lack of an ability to govern imo. But if it's for 9/11 or some other incident.

But why not keep this in effect all the time so people can be prepared for the worst...oh wait...I'm speculating.