Destination: Scotland!
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There's a lot you'd want to see outside of a fairly narrowly defined 'museums'.
warpus
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Guys, thanks for all the advice.. Keep it coming!
I'm a bit busy at work today so won't really be able to go through all the posts today and respond.
Somebody suggested that 2-3 weeks isn't enough to see everything and that I should focus on a couple cities/places. That is probably very good advice.. I've been thinking about it and I guess I don't really want to rush the trip and speed from city to city..
So keep the advice coming, and thanks again! Especially norway/scotland/bavaria hiking advice
Or anything in Britain and Holland I guess, cause I will be in those 2 places for sure. And I really don't want to miss Munich either. Maybe I Could just start there, then head to Rotterdam, then London, then Scotland. That sounds like a bit of a more manageable trip. Of course if Norway is an option, that would change things.
I'm a bit busy at work today so won't really be able to go through all the posts today and respond.
Somebody suggested that 2-3 weeks isn't enough to see everything and that I should focus on a couple cities/places. That is probably very good advice.. I've been thinking about it and I guess I don't really want to rush the trip and speed from city to city..
So keep the advice coming, and thanks again! Especially norway/scotland/bavaria hiking advice
Or anything in Britain and Holland I guess, cause I will be in those 2 places for sure. And I really don't want to miss Munich either. Maybe I Could just start there, then head to Rotterdam, then London, then Scotland. That sounds like a bit of a more manageable trip. Of course if Norway is an option, that would change things.
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Well if you can be flexible with your travel plans it may be better, and depend on travel costs.
Just before you fly check the weather in Norway and book a flight from Holland if it looks ok for a 10 days’ time.
week 1
Fly into Munich and spend a couple of days
If the weather is good go hiking in Bavaria for 5 days then to Rotterdam.
If bad spend a few more days drinking beer in Munich with some short hikes; then go to Amsterdam for a day then onto Rotterdam.
Week 2
So then spend 2 days in Rotterdam and then fly to Norway for 4 days if booked.
If not do some hiking on the coast or inland towards Brussels.
Week 3
Fly from Norway to London or get the train from Brussels to London.
Spend 2 days in London then to Scotland if the weather is good for hiking in the mountains. If not stay another day or two in London the go to Edinburgh and spend a few days hiking locally.
Just before you fly check the weather in Norway and book a flight from Holland if it looks ok for a 10 days’ time.
week 1
Fly into Munich and spend a couple of days
If the weather is good go hiking in Bavaria for 5 days then to Rotterdam.
If bad spend a few more days drinking beer in Munich with some short hikes; then go to Amsterdam for a day then onto Rotterdam.
Week 2
So then spend 2 days in Rotterdam and then fly to Norway for 4 days if booked.
If not do some hiking on the coast or inland towards Brussels.
Week 3
Fly from Norway to London or get the train from Brussels to London.
Spend 2 days in London then to Scotland if the weather is good for hiking in the mountains. If not stay another day or two in London the go to Edinburgh and spend a few days hiking locally.
warpus
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That sounds like a pretty good plan
Flying in Europe is cheap, right?
I wonder how easy it would be to coordinate everything with a Chelsea game.. and how easy it would be to get a ticket
Flying in Europe is cheap, right?
I wonder how easy it would be to coordinate everything with a Chelsea game.. and how easy it would be to get a ticket
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Flying can be cheap but it depends when you fly, the airport and the notice. That is why I said book the Norway flight just before you fly from Canada. Obviously you can choose to fly on less popular days.
Well Chelsea played at home 3 times in October this year, once at QPR which is within a few minutes walking distance and two games halfway to Scotland. You should be able to buy a ticket if you plan, log on and find out how quickly they sell, then you will have to arrange to be near a computer at that time.
Well Chelsea played at home 3 times in October this year, once at QPR which is within a few minutes walking distance and two games halfway to Scotland. You should be able to buy a ticket if you plan, log on and find out how quickly they sell, then you will have to arrange to be near a computer at that time.
warpus
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Awesome
I really think that Norway is going to be too cold, but that's just my instincts screaming that at me, after they've seen how far north it is
I really think that Norway is going to be too cold, but that's just my instincts screaming that at me, after they've seen how far north it is
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Well Norway on the coast should be ok in October
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/europe/osloforecast.html
not sure about Oslo this week.
The west coast of Scotland can be relatively warm as well but wet and windy.
We benefit from the North Atlantic drift.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/europe/osloforecast.html
not sure about Oslo this week.
The west coast of Scotland can be relatively warm as well but wet and windy.
We benefit from the North Atlantic drift.
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Don't give him any ideas about Oslo. It might be THE ugliest capital in Europe. If you want to go to Norway, visit the fjords.
And Oslo has some of the nicest weather in Norway.
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If you can divert, divert to Rome for at least a day or two.
All roads lead to Roma and you can pretend you built the Coliseum, visit the Vatican and its museum, etc... Seeing all the sites in Rome is a good hike at that, as it's pretty pedestrian city (lots of plazas).
All roads lead to Roma and you can pretend you built the Coliseum, visit the Vatican and its museum, etc... Seeing all the sites in Rome is a good hike at that, as it's pretty pedestrian city (lots of plazas).
ArneHD
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If you are going for the fjords you might want to visit "Preikestolen" ("Preacher's Chair" or "Preaching Chair"), an outcropping over Lysefjorden near Stavanger. It's a nice hike, if somewhat strenuous if you are not prepared. Bring hiking boots and a good jacket. This actually applies to all hikes in Norway.
An English journalist once commented that: "Climbing over wet, slippery rocks with no harness or safety of any kind is something we English call "Free Climbing" and correctly consider an extreme sport. The Norwegians call it a trip and wrongly consider it an appropriate family activity for a sunday afternoon."
An English journalist once commented that: "Climbing over wet, slippery rocks with no harness or safety of any kind is something we English call "Free Climbing" and correctly consider an extreme sport. The Norwegians call it a trip and wrongly consider it an appropriate family activity for a sunday afternoon."
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Oslo was just easy for me to get the weather for as I have the metoffice saved.
Yes if he went to Oslo he would be pining for the fjords.
It depends on the flights and how much he wants to spend.
But flights to Bergen or further north may be pricey
Yes if he went to Oslo he would be pining for the fjords.
It depends on the flights and how much he wants to spend.
But flights to Bergen or further north may be pricey
Look here for a list of discount airlines in Europe.
Be aware that some really low cost airlines do not fly quite where you think they're flying you to. You might think that, if you're flying to City X that you're flying to the airport of City X - whereas quite often you'll be flying to a small regional airport 90 minutes bus ride from City X. You have to allow for this is timing and pricing.
warpus
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It's just a bit funny, cause.. I'm basically at the same latitude as ROME
and I'm in CANADA.. The land of snow
So it makes me think, how bad does NORWAY get? Of course I understand that Europe benefits from the gulf stream and is much warmer than North America, but.. I wonder if I'd be missing out on any cool hikes in inland Norway?
I better do some research this weekend.
warpus
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Lillefix said:
Yes, I LOVE fjords
Fiordland in New Zealand was amazing. Any recommendations?ArneHD said:
I've seen pictures of Preikestolen! That thing gets posted on reddit every once in a while.
I am prepared to climb this thing.. but.. Would mid/late October be a good thing to attempt that? Any other hikes in Norway you recommend?
How about something beside a glacier or something? Or would that be too far north?
I also heard that Norway is SUPER expensive.. as in.. everything costs double of what stuff costs here in Canada? Is any of that true?
ArneHD
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For hikes there is: http://www.turistforeningen.no/english/
The Norwegian Tourist Association. It's mostly an association for hikers and I think they have a list of most good hikes.
Glaciers can be found quite far south, the big glaciers are found only in the south.
Norway is STUPIDLY expensive, it's the oil you know. It drives relative prices up.
Edit: For some reason the English name of "Den Norske Turistforeningen" is translated as "The Norwegian Trekking association". Probably to avoid tourist assuming it's the local tourist help.
Edit2: http://www.turistforeningen.no/english/article.php?ar_id=7091&fo_id=3622 This might also be interesting. It's essentially the run down on the Norwegian right-to-roam laws.
The Norwegian Tourist Association. It's mostly an association for hikers and I think they have a list of most good hikes.
Glaciers can be found quite far south, the big glaciers are found only in the south.
Norway is STUPIDLY expensive, it's the oil you know. It drives relative prices up.
Edit: For some reason the English name of "Den Norske Turistforeningen" is translated as "The Norwegian Trekking association". Probably to avoid tourist assuming it's the local tourist help.
Edit2: http://www.turistforeningen.no/english/article.php?ar_id=7091&fo_id=3622 This might also be interesting. It's essentially the run down on the Norwegian right-to-roam laws.
Traitorfish
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Depends on the hike. The weather at that time of year can be very unpredictable up here, and you don't want to be stuck up a hill if it turns nasty. An afternoon's ramble would be doable, though, if the weather's right. You get some round-the-loch routes that can be very nice.In Scotland, you should hire a car, and do this. So pretty.Don't know about hiking.
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Traitorfish
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Aye, it's far too hot. You'd spend all day in the shade, never get to see anything.20 below 0 is not nice weather.
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