[Development] Resource Spawn Suggestions

[hnrysml]

By that same logic why make it a spawn then, it might as well be present on the map from the start.

 

[borhap88]

By that same logic why make it a spawn then, it might as well be present on the map from the start.

No. There are many resources that spawn for consistent, historical and gameplay reasons. Again, before Greek spawn nobody will settle Italy or any of those spots, so I still don't see the point.

 

[Leoreth]

I don't think we need to simulate the historical spread of every single crop, as long as no civilisation can prematurely access it.

 

[star15389]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_tea_in_Japan#Early_history

Based on this I think Japan shouldn't get Tea until 1185

 

[Crimean Lord]

I really like magnificent idea of speading Earth's Map: I prepared some changes for Central Russia and Ukraine
P.S. Also I think new Map need some deers in the Russian North and one other hand - much more oil in the Siberia and Far East territories

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[Crimean Lord]

I really like magnificent idea of speading Earth's Map: I prepared some changes for Central Russia and Ukraine
P.S. Also I think new Map need some deers in the Russian North and one other hand - much more oil in the Siberia and Far East territories

 

[Hightower]

Can we have Silk spawn 1W of Constantinople in 600? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_silkworm_eggs_into_the_Byzantine_Empire

If we only have one resource, they can't trade it with the other Europeans, and anyway they will value it highly because of the Silk Road corp.

It could disappear in 1450 if we want to model history more closely.

 

[hnrysml]

The article says at the end that they still produce silk in the region, especially in Thrace, today

 

[Logoncal]

And it makes no sense taking it off after 1450 since the Silk Road dies in the 1500s.

 

[TJDowling]

So I got a bit crazy with Africa here. It's a bit resource dense in some places but mostly just added food and happiness items. This includes some suggested resources to add but mostly resources to spawn... plus even the resources that are indigenous might spawn later because they weren't developed until the colonial era or later. I'm thinking most would spawn late 1800s or early 1900s. I wasn't exactly sure when Cotton in the Sahel should spawn or if it should be there from the beginning. Does anyone know?

I added olives in the Sahara as a replacement for dates there. I added potatoes to represent potatoes, yams and cassava important staples in modern Africa. I added copper in Zambia but I think that's the extent of my mineral add-ons.

Of course this is just a suggestion as the final Africa map is far from finished. Things would need to be tweaked.

South Africa:
spawn Capetown WHEAT x73:Y12
spawn WINE x74:y12
spawn JoBurg CORN x77:y17
spawn TOBACCO x79:y17
add COTTON x75:y18

Mozambique:
spawn RICE x80:y17
spawn CORN x81:y17
add COW x80:y18
add COTTON x82:y20
spawn POTATO x80:y21
spawn POTATO x84:y21
spawn TOBACCO x79:y22
spawn TOBACCO x82:y21

Madagascar:
spawn COW x86:y18
spawn RICE x87:y20
spawn COFFEE x89:y21

Zambia:
add COPPER x76:y21
add MILLET x78:y22

Angola:
add MILLET (sorghum IRL) x71:y21
spawn CORN x71:y23
spawn COFFEE x70:y24
spawn POTATO x72:y24

Congo:
spawn BANANA (peaches IRL) x76:y22
spawn POTATO x75:y23
spawn RICE x74:y25
spawn CORN x77:y25
spawn BANANA (peaches IRL) x72:y26
spawn COCOA x73:y27
add RUBBER x73:y28
spawn COFFEE x77:y28
spawn COFFEE x78:730

Tanzania:
spawn WHEAT x84:y23
spawn CORN x80:y24
spawn TOBACCO x80:y25

Uganda:
spawn POTATO x80:y29
add COTTON x80:y31

Kenya:
spawn CORN x82:y29

Somalia:
add COTTON x86:y30
add SHEEP x89:32

Ethiopia:
spawn CORN x84:y33

Egypt:
spawn CORN x80:y42
spawn RICE x80:y45

CAR:
add COTTON x75:y32

Chad:
add COTTON x71:y33
add OLIVES (IRL dates) x71:y39

Cameroon:
spawn COFFEE x69:y31

Nigeria:
add RUBBER x66:y31
spawn COCOA x65:y32
spawn CORN x68:y32
spawn RICE x68:y34
Move COW x69:y34

Niger:
spawn RICE x63:y35

Benin:
spawn COCOA x65:y32

Togo:
spawn POTATO x64:y33

Ghana:
add COTTON x63:y33

Cote D'Ivoire:
spawn COFFEE x60:y31
spawn CORN x60:y33

Liberia:
add RUBBER x53:y28
spawn COFFEE x57:y32

Senegal:
spawn RICE x55:y34

Mali:
add COTTON x57:y35
spawn RICE x59:y36

Mauritania:
add OLIVES (IRL dates) x57:y39

Algeria:
add OLIVES (IRL dates) x63:y43

Libya:
add OLIVES (IRL dates) x69:y42


Southern Africa:

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Central Africa:

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Eastern Africa:

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North Africa:

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West Africa:

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[hnrysml]

Thank you, TJDowling!

 

[TJDowling]

As for my methodology. I looked at which countries produced large quantities of crops and commodities. Then I looked up maps of "[country] livelihood zones" to pinpoint the primary regions in which they produced these resources. Additionally, I looked at this map to fill in some of the gaps for less productive regions that still have substantial production of certain resources: https://fluswikien.hfwu.de/images/0/07/Africa-agricultural-resources-map.png

Also, does anyone know where to find the default save location for WorldBuilder saves in the game directory? I can't seem to navigate to it.

Also, I forgot to mention. If we're still considering future resources to add to the game. Consider "dates" as an important food and trade resource in the Middle East/North Africa, as well as "peanuts" as an important staple in Africa and even the American South.

 

[merijn_v1]

Also, does anyone know where to find the default save location for WorldBuilder saves in the game directory? I can't seem to navigate to it.

Usually they are in Documents/My Games/BTS/Saves/Worldbuilder.

 

[TJDowling]

Usually they are in Documents/My Games/BTS/Saves/Worldbuilder.

Thanks! My WB save for Africa Resource Spawns if anyone wants to take a closer look.

 

[hnrysml]

I have a couple more things to add for African resources: Kenya should have coffee and tea resources spawning around 1850-1900, and that Ethiopia should have wheat from the Ethiopian civ spawn, or earlier. My other suggestion is that there should be iron in the Congo basin

 

[TJDowling]

I have a couple more things to add for African resources: Kenya should have coffee and tea resources spawning around 1850-1900, and that Ethiopia should have wheat from the Ethiopian civ spawn, or earlier. My other suggestion is that there should be iron in the Congo basin

Yeah, I think considering Ethiopia would be the first civ to settle that region might as well just include wheat from the beginning. I also thought that Congo was a bit light on production resources but wasn't sure what I could add and where. Thought about copper further North that would only be unlocked with clearing rainforest but considering Congo already has copper there's no need. Maybe iron would be a good addition. It seems from a little research that Congo has produced iron tools for a long time and there is significant iron deposits up the Congo River a bit. Also, Kenya does have a coffee resource on the current map, the label isn't there on the screenshot though because it's close to the bottom of the screen. Adding a tea spawn sounds good.

 

[TJDowling]

Soy, peanuts or legumes could definitely be added to the game.

 

[Leoreth]

I don't know why I put Millet in Ethiopia, it should be Wheat.

 

[Vectors]

California:
Oil on the Los Angeles tile to represent California's historically massive oil production,
Wine on the tile North of the river it needs wine to represent Napa, and the state's major wine production.
Rice on the Northern San Joaquin Valley Tile
Crab north of San Francisco, California has a major shellfish industry
Fish, California needs two fish south of San Francisco and workable by Los Angeles both to represent the major fishing industry and help California reach its historical population.
Livestock, it might also be worth giving California a cow as it is know for its milk production

 

[Enyavar]

Elephants on a wooded plain tile near Sur, just to add a hammer or even build a camp.
They should disappear before anyone has riding. There was a large elephant population in that area which went extinct from hunting between -1500 and -1000; so its only use would be a very limited production bonus for Babylon or Phoenicia, and possibly happiness for several turns in Marathon games. If there are plans for a deer resource in the area, you could even switch the disappearing elephants for deer, which would go extinct much later, maybe around CE.